I don't buy it Prot ;). Sitting yes I can understand that. I don't buy that top KDs would recruit someone who said they may or may not be able to army in/army out during war as their standard activity.
I don't buy it Prot ;). Sitting yes I can understand that. I don't buy that top KDs would recruit someone who said they may or may not be able to army in/army out during war as their standard activity.
Alliance ranking would be interesting. A LA earth. Modify it for a required stipulation by YR2 or YR3 and binding for age, with visible alliance declarations
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You are correct in some ways Palem. If TFC and Xena Warrior Princess can get in the T 10 it's not as hard as people think ;). You have to assume that you have the ability to stop the current top KDs farming you out as you try to grow up.
I'm amused at how many people want to come in here and tell me about my own kds shortcomings or make up pointless excuses rather than accepting my challenge and improving on something they're bad at.
I'm not interested in your cries about how the top are mean and how abs will feed on you. If abs feeds off you then you aren't as good at warring than you think you are.
Every kd can improve somewhere. Whether that's warring or whoring or diplo or filling your roster or whatever. Stop making excuses and do it. That's all I'm saying here
I will not tell you what i think of your intelectual lvl after reading this Palem, it would get me banned. I am suprised to see this from you, didnt think you had it in you.Originally Posted by Palem
I will suggest you stop imposing your morals and opinions on other people. They are not superior and you are not "right" and others are not "wrong".
One line defense, one line offense, one line patronizing ... you even parsed it like your talking to small children and sharing wisdom.
Newsflash ... its not wisdom ... its just your opinion. And opinions arte like a**holes ... everybody has one.
As a mental excersise i sugest you ponder on what kind of ppl belive their opinions should be enforced on others since they are "right"ones.
You're right citadela. Your kd is perfect, has no room for improvement and performs flawlessly at every instance. Congrats for mastering the unmasterable.
Poorly used sarcasm. I never said that or claimed that. But you dont get to decide what would improve us and by which standards should we improve, only we do.
Would blond girl improve if she paints her hair black ? You may have the opinion on it but just cause you prefer chicks with black hair ie it doesnt mean every girl should paint her hair just for you.
I hope you see the distinction on what you are talkin about and what I am talking about.
I am not imposing my opinion on you. I am simply insisting mine is just as relevant as yours and just like I dont tell you how to run your KD you dont get to tell me how to run mine.
What are you going to do then Palem? Because all you do at the moment is talk about what other people should do.....and fill a spot in the T10.
and avoid these types of questions.
Tell me at what point I impose an opinion...
Whoring is a skill
Acquiring more skills makes a kd better
Kds who lack whoring skills improve by improving their poor skills.
Even if a kingdom has no chance of standing toe to toe with a single absalom kingdom, it is to their benefit to make what run for the land/nw charts they can early on. The problem is more that kingdoms deliberately play to stay under 1k acres when they can clearly do much better, and that stagnates the early game dramatically. Because every kingdom does the same exact thing, no one really benefits from positioning, since an elite kingdom is likely to setup their provinces to sucker a war just as much as a weak kingdom.
Just from math alone, it's better to grow and get farmed out by abs than stay small and have a much higher chance of poor science in the long term.
Great thread tho. I love the way you try to rustle feathers to inspire change. I will try and recruit 4 more player, take land from WW and encourage save randoms. IF Palem changes the race of 19 of his provs and does the same ;)
If you have a mountain and a stone, what you are trying to do atm is bringing the mountain to the stone instead of the stone to the mountain. Like proteus said, the amount of people trying to go for crown is pretty stable. Only way you would get your "perfect little world" wherer everyone goes for crown is if crowning is only determined by warring.
Something like if only way to get acres into the exp pool is by winning wars.
so silly!
All the strong warring kds can already compete. Game doesn't need to change. They need to change their mentality on competing.
There are a few reasons why warring kingdoms struggle to compete in top play.
You can look at divinity this age for instance: they have won all their wars, but still were unable to keep up in growth.
Or balance last age: they had some strong play early, but then were caught off guard a couple of times and lost big.
And when you try and fail, it can often be demoralizing and lead you to stop trying.
As for the reasons:
* You war less at larger sizes (purely a matter of available targets), which is less exciting. Top play involves boring periods that still need significant activity. And though some ages you may war 6 times, other ages you may only war once or twice depending how the age plays out.
* Top play requires full understanding of econ during growth periods. This is where warring kingdoms usually struggle the most. Your typical warring kingdom is used to pumping for a while, then warring someone else who's also pumped for a while. But pumping while also whoring 2x a day requires a different approach, in both build and in your race/pers setup.
* Top play can be very brutal, and diplomacy is essential. Divinity screwed this up by falling behind rage, without ceasefiring them under a long enough term to let them catch up. They ended up getting bottomfed-waved by rage. They knew they couldn't win a war and had to give a free wave.
* Even warring strategy is different. Warring for wins, warring for land, and warring for honor are all different. Top kingdoms are expert in maximizing land gains once the war is won. Overall this is minor compared to the other points, though.
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