A Resolution: On Ethics and Top Play

[Elit]

wow that a freaking lame deal, the top 3 manage to get all they wanted out of this 1. Rage wont win age 2.Fratzia is now all alone vs the 3 top kingdoms in top 5
Great Work new ABS.

I had chat with CIUPI, and he very honest and objective share his view but this was unofficial. Had chat with Hesus too but both wanted to consult with coss before give Fratzia official view on situation. I never got back official Fratzia position so you cant blame us now for deal.
No one is stop Fratzia from compete fair 1vs1 fight. After ABS gone there is no more Double hostiles past 2 ages :P

People accused abs of power playing and dictating game play.They are gone but same thing is happening.Ironic eh :)

Thanks for your troll post. Sanctuary is one from two KDs involved in Double Hostile 2 ages ago and steal crown from AMA after ABS loss all his conflict in 1vs1.

[MegasX]

Thanks for your troll post. Sanctuary is one from two KDs involved in Double Hostile 2 ages ago and steal crown from AMA after ABS loss all his conflict in 1vs1.

Coming from someone who likes to hit in real wars.Since we are talking about past.oh and wait wasnt it dreams and bio that fw each other to double rage in age 51? i am not sure which age.My post is no trolling i am just stating the fact you tried force RBL in accepting a ****ty deal.

[Persain]

War AMA or BB 1vs1 with Rage was discuss too but its unfair to all involved and change chart with Pew Pew acres. Im not fan on GB and never was involved in GB other KD in past....
Persain, every one have right to share his view, but first spend few ages in land chart, face ****s and after it you can gave your "objective" view.

I've spent plenty of ages in the top, crowned in genesis, wol and battlefields. The type of **** that goes on up there is always "unfair" to those that dont "benefit". I'd remind u that even recently as age 56 the only reason u ended age in the top 10 was because u came to me and asked for a cf so you could fight TFC, i gave u an eoa cf no terms, no land, nothing, u wanted to fight, it seemed reasonable i let you. It was probably unfair to my kd that you got good terms, free time to spend weeks in hostile while max gaining into smaller kds, but my kd does things differently maybe u should try it.

You are correct if the case where that pew would farm out to the first kingdom to hit them, which isn't the case. It was done in spite to make Rage pass AMA and beat AMA.

AMA burnt a bridge with with a kd thats to good for them to handle and still crown when they dealt with pewpew. They dont want to burn their remaining friends in BB and EJ so they get their diplomatic machine to arrange these types of "deals." Its just the thing is BB, Rage, EJ could all stop this by not being scared to drop to 50k acres or lose an age.

Maybe I just hold a different perspective than the typical leader but you deal with the actions as they come and you deal with kds that dont like you. After they way AMA screwed up with ABS 2 ages ago, dealt with PewPew last age and now this I'm surpised they still have u guys as friends. Flogger should of gotten you cf to deal that let u hit AMA when this type of thing happened. AMA v BB right now would be to your advantage for example.

[MegasX]

Anyways i am not here to flame,its good that a deal that was acceptable by everyone was worked out in the end.

[Drug]

Coming from someone who likes to hit in real wars.Since we are talking about past.oh and wait wasnt it dreams and bio that fw each other to double rage in age 51? i am not sure which age.My post is no trolling i am just stating the fact you tried force RBL in accepting a ****ty deal.

Did not Sanc hit into Rage/Strippers war? Or u want to say it was not real war? Such a hypocrite.

And I think Drixx offered himself to get out of competition. Get ur facts straight, eh?

[Soul_Hunter]

So to sum it up

- AMA screwed ABS 2 age ago
- AMA hit into a legit war last age
- AMA screwed their own allies Simians
- AMA is weaker than pewpew and ED (we can't handle the first, pewpew and ED players claimed we got owned by ED)
- AMA farmed Pewpew (despite having all their core attackers below 1000 acres)
- AMA dictates diplomacy
- BB and EJ are our pets
- We are the biggest ****players

Despite:

- Sanctuary and Havoc doing double hostile on us (both kds admitted that)
- The fact Pewpew did double hostile Sanctuary the same age
- Pewpew and Strippers got warned by mods for their 1st war as being fw, also giving a runaway war against their allies.
- Pewpew arranging gb against AMA the same age (something we get trashed about now, but they don't).
- Simians acting against advices of all allies including BB and pewpew letting them lose tons of land at the end to SWEA. And no ally (BB and Pwpew included) assisted them.
- SWEA hit into a real war.
- SWEA powerplayed SImians
- SWEA farmed 100k acres from Pewpew, who got suspended for war mechanics abuse.
- Simians, Pewpew Strippers making a gb on AMA
- Pewpew and ED do 2 runaway wars. When AMA was complaining others were "stop whining". Ppl said we can raze into war but not gain acres. When ED runs from Fratiza suddenly it is a problem to them as well and they can hit into war
- Pewpew farms to Rage


And we are the lame kd. Seriously? I ask the non-pewpew guys. Every time we get **** played and complain about it, neutrals either stay silent or tell us not to whine. The very moment they get into such a situation they act like us. Still, despite the fact we didn't do a single act of dirty play this age, the forums blame us for everything. As if all the other hits oow, dealbreaks, double hostiles, farmouts are nothing special. I can't really understand that.

[MegasX]

Did not Sanc hit into Rage/Strippers war? Or u want to say it was not real war? Such a hypocrite.

And I think Drixx offered himself to get out of competition. Get ur facts straight, eh?

Read what i said,deal acceptable by everyone was worked out.I m not claiming my kd was clean but elit started flamefest not me i was just expressing merely an opinion.Is that a crime now?

[Soul_Hunter]

Well you make it sounds like the deal is there despite Elit being a jerk and trying to powerplay. While it is cause of him that there is no gb but a deal.

[MegasX]

I am not pointing single person,but an alliance as whole previously it used to abs now someone else.

[Soul_Hunter]

I quote "Coming from someone who likes to hit in real wars.Since we are talking about past.oh and wait wasnt it dreams and bio that fw each other to double rage in age 51? i am not sure which age.My post is no trolling i am just stating the fact you tried force RBL in accepting a ****ty deal. "

[Persain]

So to sum it up

And we are the lame kd. Seriously? I ask the non-pewpew guys.

I dont think u guys are the worst, nor do i think your list is an honest one if you were actually making a legit view from the outside. Anyway the thing is your actions as a kd inspire others to retaliate by acting out in poor form. If i were up top any deals with AMA would take that into consideration.

[MegasX]

Did you read what elit said? i didnt even point anyone in particular and elit started flaming I quote "Thanks for your troll post. Sanctuary is one from two KDs involved in Double Hostile 2 ages ago and steal crown from AMA after ABS loss all his conflict in 1vs1. "
Whatever i said was in general as i have already said.Whichever allied group is stronger will dictate the game play,so people shouldnt be whining about getting powerplayed.

[EvulTroll]

So to sum it up

- AMA screwed ABS 2 age ago
- AMA hit into a legit war last age
- AMA screwed their own allies Simians
- AMA is weaker than pewpew and ED (we can't handle the first, pewpew and ED players claimed we got owned by ED)
- AMA farmed Pewpew (despite having all their core attackers below 1000 acres)
- AMA dictates diplomacy
- BB and EJ are our pets
- We are the biggest ****players

Despite:

- Sanctuary and Havoc doing double hostile on us (both kds admitted that)
- The fact Pewpew did double hostile Sanctuary the same age
- Pewpew and Strippers got warned by mods for their 1st war as being fw, also giving a runaway war against their allies.
- Pewpew arranging gb against AMA the same age (something we get trashed about now, but they don't).
- Simians acting against advices of all allies including BB and pewpew letting them lose tons of land at the end to SWEA. And no ally (BB and Pwpew included) assisted them.
- SWEA hit into a real war.
- SWEA powerplayed SImians
- SWEA farmed 100k acres from Pewpew, who got suspended for war mechanics abuse.
- Simians, Pewpew Strippers making a gb on AMA
- Pewpew and ED do 2 runaway wars. When AMA was complaining others were "stop whining". Ppl said we can raze into war but not gain acres. When ED runs from Fratiza suddenly it is a problem to them as well and they can hit into war
- Pewpew farms to Rage


And we are the lame kd. Seriously? I ask the non-pewpew guys. Every time we get **** played and complain about it, neutrals either stay silent or tell us not to whine. The very moment they get into such a situation they act like us. Still, despite the fact we didn't do a single act of dirty play this age, the forums blame us for everything. As if all the other hits oow, dealbreaks, double hostiles, farmouts are nothing special. I can't really understand that.

LOL, ama not lame play this age my ass ?
BB + AMA (some degree ej) think they are the police of utopia and has the right to tell everyone what they cant and can do, but trust me that only fly for a short time before people get tired of it, i for one had it with your big bully mentality and will fight for my own and other kingdoms to realise how evil you are. we just replced great evil abs with someone just as lame or more, anti abs has become the new abs.

Disgrace.

[EvulTroll]

[QUOTE=Elit;15264884]I had chat with CIUPI, and he very honest and objective share his view but this was unofficial. Had chat with Hesus too but both wanted to consult with coss before give Fratzia official view on situation. I never got back official Fratzia position so you cant blame us now for deal.
No one is stop Fratzia from compete fair 1vs1 fight. After ABS gone there is no more Double hostiles past 2 ages :P

Ye its gonna be very fair, cant wait for it your lil alliance sitting waiting taking turns.

[EvulTroll]

ooh and elit you should ask me about Things insted of waiting for the others im sure i can tell you how we feel about your powerplaying abusing lame ass abs alliance.