Pew Pew vs AMA

[John Snowstorm]

Your problem was not activity, it was strategy, and it will continue to be such until you realise that activity isn't everything.

Pew Pew confirmed for not being top kd material.

[Elit]

JSS is kinda harsh but its very true. You gained 800 acres in hostile but you totally loss battle in hostile. War was over 5min after we declared it.

[American Badass]

Well played AMA and Unlucky PewPew

[Proteus]

Its fine to lose wars, not everyone can win 100% of the time against everyone.

It's not fine to ****play and talk **** and accuse people of running. Pewpew basically "claimed" AMA out of war with this thread, tagging "pewpew vs. ama", a dragon project but 0 hits. Everyone in AMA and even other kingdoms based on this knew that AMA was not hostile with pewpew but that pewpew would double team AMA if they waved another kingdom. I would love to hear an explanation from binbin or tox about this type of play and why they considered themselves hostile to us..pew also robbed our gold into eow which is ****play by anyone's standards.

This is pure power and ****play, if you want to be "hostile" with someone you need to give them button - until you do that there is no valid hostile.

Personally I've experienced pewpew for several ages dating back to my days leading Rage (we had two conflicts with them in b2b ages. I saw how pew plans age, setup, and executed strat throughout whole age. I said this before and will say it again, pewpew is not good as good at strategy/macro/prov and game mechanics as the top kds. Pewpew understands and knows how to war and has good activity but that's not enough. Your understanding of strategy is what makes you better than other kds and why AMA is a better kd than pew2. In this case pewpew waved AMA from an advantaged position with larger kingdom/core and 3 UB cows. Complete fail on strategy contributed to these results more than activity. When I was in Rage we did not have amazing activity but we were very good at strategy which lead to the results we had for many ages. AMA has top notch strategy and great activity but again strategy is much more important than activity.

I personally would have more respect for pewpew if they didnt claim to be the best warring kd (this is not true and has been proven repeatedly) and if they didnt continuously ****play and shape the charts via eoa farmouts.

[padrez]

/me hands the talking stick to Pew2. Care to comment? :)

[Binar]

TLDR Proteus, but I guess its you explaining how we suck and you pwn

[Band of Horses]

TLDR Proteus, but I guess its you explaining how we suck and you pwn

I've developed a system for reading Protie posts. You read the first 4 words of the paragraph, if in those 4 words he uses I/It's/Win/Lose/**** then stop there and skip to next paragraph.

[Sheister]

So band, you just don't read it at all?

[topsy's revenge]

nice war ama. I think one thing lots of the kd's facing you in these vulture environments don't realize is how effective you guys have gotten at pumping in eowcf+3days. Not sure if you are doing anything differently like sold swapping or if the people vulturing you just aren't stocking to pump for you(seems the latter) but people are consistently thinking that vulturing involves still being of same pump/stock as the target.

[Korp]

with someone you need to give them button - until you do that there is no valid hostile.

These definitions of hostiles keeps getting better, but I guess this means its allowed to hit into AMA during their waves unless they have given the button to someone. lol.

[Drixx]

I'm not sure that vulturing actually exists anymore with the good bonuses in eowcf and the 3 extra days with good fort bonuses.

Also, @Proteus - PewPew would have razed you or massacred you or something into your eowcf to give you a button, but that's considered poor form. You are saying it's not cool for them to let you know they're coming but their only other alternative is to make a play most consider dirty so they are hostile with you before anyone else can be. I think it's better for them to say "we're coming, no matter what, so don't run" rather than hit into your eowcf. It's the lesser of two evils I guess.

[Drixx]

These definitions of hostiles keeps getting better, but I guess this means its allowed to hit into AMA during their waves unless they have given the button to someone. lol.

The whole redefinition of what "hostile" means to fit a particular agenda is the problem. I think the only sane definition we can all agree upon is that if one kd has given another the button, those kds are hostile until they CF or the situation resolves in some other way. Using that definition has the added benefit of stopping people waving a kd whose armies are out against a 3rd party, which is happening more and more and is super shady.

[Korp]

The whole redefinition of what "hostile" means to fit a particular agenda is the problem. I think the only sane definition we can all agree upon is that if one kd has given another the button, those kds are hostile until they CF or the situation resolves in some other way. Using that definition has the added benefit of stopping people waving a kd whose armies are out against a 3rd party, which is happening more and more and is super shady.

But if neither wants to given button and they are just hitting each other without giving the button isnt that a hostile act?

[Band of Horses]

But if neither wants to given button and they are just hitting each other without giving the button isnt that a hostile act?

I'd say that is an unfriendly act. :P

[John Snowstorm]

He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces