Simians vs Pew Pew

[Band of Horses]

I wasn't trying to make you the bad guy. If you could kindly screenshot said rule in game, I'd appreciate it.

This is helping your cause.
*Hands Ovenmitt a shovel*

[Ovenmitt]

This is helping your cause.
*Hands Ovenmitt a shovel*

What cause is that?

[Ovenmitt]

.deleted

[faegan]

I wasn't trying to make you the bad guy. If you could kindly screenshot said rule in game, I'd appreciate it.

Utopia isn't a democracy with written laws. Bishop can pretty much do as he pleases I think....
The correct question to ask is: "what is the spirit of the game?"

In Ovenmitt's defense I'd also say that if there is no written rule, why should it be a punishable offense? This is the actual issue here. He broke no officially stated rule; other than violate the "spirit of the game" perhaps, but that is also up for debate. One could argue that the spirit of the game is to beat other kingdoms while protecting your own by all means allowed by game mechanics (excluding bug abuse). From that viewpoint, Ovenmitt did the only thing he could to protect his province from being raze-killed. If his province were any smaller, I'm guessing Simians would have had no problem razekilling him in the 24h it takes for VM to take effect. The mere fact that it takes 24h for VM to take effect should be penalty enough; it would be free hits for Simians for those 24h.

Now, another point one could make is that while razekilling provinces is not against the rules, it is not in the "spirit of the game". Imagine how much fun it is for someone to see his/her hard work being run into the ground because of a personal grudge.

And no Anri, I'm not taking sides. Just trying to find out which rules apply to the game and where to find them. It would be quite disturbing if rules would be subjectively enforced simply because noone can be bothered to write them down.

[Bishop]

Ah here lads. Its vacation mode abuse, it doesn't even need explaining. Its the same as win trading and 100000 other things you aren't allowed do in every game that exists. A bit of cop on would go a long way.

[Anri]

IF this had been a new player maybe it could been understandable. This is Ovenmitt, he has good in depth understanding of this game regarding rules and mechanics and all round more or less. I agree, it should be stated better under the rules or in the wiki, its not atm. But thats not a reason for a well known player to abuse the system. You dont need much game understanding to know what you do is wrong. If it feels borderline it is more then likely wrong to do it and its worth checking up sources here or anywhere else. I am pretty sure there was people even in Pewpew that advised Ovenmitt not to do this, but he is not the type that would listen to this unless some leader tells him off, even then it would be hard to stop him. Point is, there is more players in the KD of pewpew and its not exactly a ghetto. They know exactly what they are doing and what is okey and what is not okey to do.

But, like i said, it should be written down in rules or wiki.

[faegan]

He should have reset....

[Korp]

In Ovenmitt's defense I'd also say that if there is no written rule, why should it be a punishable offense?

"Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion."

Imo its pretty clear to me, he did use vacation to avoid hits and that is not as intended.

[faegan]

"Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion."

Imo its pretty clear to me, he did use vacation to avoid hits and that is not as intended.

WRONG

VM's only purpose is to make sure you don't get hit while you can't play for any kind of reason. I can say I need to take a 2 day dump and setup VM. It would mean I'd have to hold back the turd for 24h but then I'd get quality time on the crapper without having to worry that my province gets beat to **** while I'm not there.

Edit 1: ...hmmm...noticed a lot of toilet...****...turd there...

Edit 2: Manipulation is subjective

[Korp]

WRONG

VM's only purpose is to make sure you don't get hit while you can't play for any kind of reason. I can say I need to take a 2 day dump and setup VM. It would mean I'd have to hold back the turd for 24h but then I'd get quality time on the crapper without having to worry that my province gets beat to **** while I'm not there.

The name itself already implies what it supose to be used for. VACATION <- see. Its even in the guide.

" Vacation Mode

Suspend your province from suffering attacks and decay while on vacation." <- See WHILE ON VACATION and you're not on vacation if you want to 2 day dump.

[faegan]

The name itself already implies what it supose to be used for. VACATION <- see. Its even in the guide.

" Vacation Mode

Suspend your province from suffering attacks and decay while on vacation." <- See WHILE ON VACATION and you're not on vacation if you want to 2 day dump.

I consider any me-time vacation....

[Tox]

Since when does Bishop call people 'lads'? I think Bishop's account has been hacked by someone pretending to be Scottish(Irish?)!

[Band of Horses]

Since when does Bishop call people 'lads'? I think Bishop's account has been hacked by someone pretending to be Scottish(Irish?)!

He is Irish...

[Sheister]

kiss him, he's irish.........

[Chuck]

there is no gray area here people...what ovensh*t did was wrong; there is precedent set already and he knew it was wrong. Appropriate action was taken by the administrator of the game, whom you do not get to argue with. As korp implied, he is lucky that he did not simply get deleted. Bend over and take your beating or trade out of pewpew oven.