AMA & BB ruin the game

[Maximouse]

JS, thank you for proving my point again. My point beeing AMA just like BB was interrested in a complete farmwar.A war in which they had cow, science, wpa, gc stock and total military advantage BUT with us atleast trained up wasnt interresting to you.

Nothing wrong with that. Everybody can understand why you made the choice. Just dont go claim you wanted a war. You wanted a farm and nothing else.
And also dont compare this to last age please. AMA had way smaller disadvantages and way more prep time and didnt want to war us still. We only asked for time to train up and in return would war you.

[Band of Horses]

JS, thank you for proving my point again. My point beeing AMA just like BB was interrested in a complete farmwar.A war in which they had cow, science, wpa, gc stock and total military advantage BUT with us atleast trained up wasnt interresting to you.

Nothing wrong with that. Everybody can understand why you made the choice. Just dont go claim you wanted a war. You wanted a farm and nothing else.
And also dont compare this to last age please. AMA had way smaller disadvantages and way more prep time and didnt want to war us still. We only asked for time to train up and in return would war you.

They didn't want a farm, they wanted retribution.

[Maximouse]

Farmwar, retribution, free acres. Call it what you like. They werent interrested in a war with huge advantages though. Way bigger advantages then CR ever had over AMA last age.

[Meeni]

When someone's mad and they want payback, it isn't meant to be fair

[Sheister]

Nor is it ever intended to be fair even when there is not payback meeni. It is structured acres collections. I don't quite understand maximouse's problems with it given his preference for structured acres collections as well but it is what it is I guess.

I am not sure why this thread is still alive. All it does is consistently rehash that BB/AMA and similar kingdoms (of which there are perhaps two) prefer to use diplomatics to engage in structured acres collections and others just want to war and have straight fun (as opposed to what has been argued is diplomatic based fun I suppose). Just let the thread die people. The resolution is simple, let those three kingdoms do their structured acres collections on each other and everyone else just ignore them (ingame). Think of them like the occasional natural disaster or random even that occurs. They won't ever give you ops so its really just one or two hits now and then so there is no reason to ever be concerned with them unless you intend to delve into their world of scummy treatment, which its easy to avoid by simply never growing.

[Band of Horses]

I'm still sad we didn't get to see the b2b AMA vs Pyro; AMA vs CR last age. I would have gladly paid Kuhan $100 to see it without the remote razes.

[flogger]

BB hitting havoc had nothing to do with BB wanting free land, we thought we could force a war. Once it was clear they'd rather raze themselves to 15k and were already down to like out of the top 10 we stopped.

[goodz]

BB hitting havoc had nothing to do with BB wanting free land, we thought we could force a war. Once it was clear they'd rather raze themselves to 15k and were already down to like out of the top 10 we stopped.

Forcing an unwinnable war vs getting free land = same thing

[Proteus]

JS, thank you for proving my point again. My point beeing AMA just like BB was interrested in a complete farmwar.A war in which they had cow, science, wpa, gc stock and total military advantage BUT with us atleast trained up wasnt interresting to you.

Nothing wrong with that. Everybody can understand why you made the choice. Just dont go claim you wanted a war. You wanted a farm and nothing else.
And also dont compare this to last age please. AMA had way smaller disadvantages and way more prep time and didnt want to war us still. We only asked for time to train up and in return would war you.

You are missing a very obvious point: There is no free cfs for you this age, why would we give you an obvious favor? The only way you will get a cf from us is when you pay for it with your acres. Last age all we had was EOW cf to prepare for fights against RPP and no one else seemed to mind it, why should you be given special treatment. If you can't defend your acres in the T5 well that too effin bad, don't grow. If you want to get free cfs from people you first need to give a bunch of stuff out for free before you can cash in on it. Every time elit did you guys a favor in the past and gave up something for free you ****played him, no more cfs for you bad baby, get used to it.

[Maximouse]

Proteus, Meeni, Sheister, you 3 all need to read. I dont have a problem with the course of action either BB or AMA took. I am only saying that neither KD wanted a war with CR. And I even said that they both had logical reasons for not wanting a real war.
And in AMA's case is would have been a war with a lot more advantages then CR ever had against AMA last age when AMA ran away through dealbreak.

And Proteus, I said it before but will say it again. Its really easy to "give away" things when it benefits you, or at the very least doesnt harm you. I love to see Elit giving anything away when its very possible it will cost him the crown. How about you use that "argument" again, when he actualy sacrafices something important with his "gifts"

[Sheister]

Fair enough maxi, you were not unclear on that point. I got swept away in a bit of rhetoric. oops!

[Proteus]

Proteus, Meeni, Sheister, you 3 all need to read. I dont have a problem with the course of action either BB or AMA took. I am only saying that neither KD wanted a war with CR. And I even said that they both had logical reasons for not wanting a real war.
And in AMA's case is would have been a war with a lot more advantages then CR ever had against AMA last age when AMA ran away through dealbreak.

And Proteus, I said it before but will say it again. Its really easy to "give away" things when it benefits you, or at the very least doesnt harm you. I love to see Elit giving anything away when its very possible it will cost him the crown. How about you use that "argument" again, when he actualy sacrafices something important with his "gifts"

Clearly you do as you've been QQing about it and saying stuff like we were afraid to give you time. Why would we want to give you time, were you willing to give us time last age? No. And yes for the record elit did give stuff up when e cfed you for free, first you guys were a competitor but since were better at war and can war without pumping it makes a lot morse sense to take you out in the beginning of the age and then just coast, in addition he have up vulturing you after your fights with bb and getting free acres or ending your age, would have been quite easy to vulture you oow last age after you jumped bb after their fight. I understand you don't understand macro that well so its hard for you to grasp but just because you fail to understand something doesn't mean it's not true.

[Maximouse]

Ehm, we cf'd before the start of the age last age. Saying you could have farmed us at some point in that age is completely void since we did that action because we couldnt be farmed. If we didnt have a CF, perhaps we wouldnt have gone after BB.
Same as BB probably wouldnt have gone after us if it wasnt for the CF with AMA, cause AMA could have farmed them aswell after the dragged hostile.

And you keep claiming your better, but last age you dealbroke instead of warring us, and this age you rather take a CF then war us or go for a dragged hostile. Its really easy to claim your better. Would help if you could actualy back it up with actions.
And before you drag some history into this again, keep in mind, our line up has changed a lot, so its like comparing AMA to simians.

And where exactly did I qq about the CF with AMA? I said AMA rather took the CF then give us time to train up which is a simple fact based on AMA's actions. I even said I understood why you did it. Stating facts isnt the same as QQ over something proteus.

[Elit]

And where exactly did I qq about the CF with AMA? I said AMA rather took the CF then give us time to train up which is a simple fact based on AMA's actions. I even said I understood why you did it. Stating facts isnt the same as QQ over something proteus.

We gave 1 week fake RBL for explore/pump and prepare war us, but you advice them for intra kd raze and not war us. Dont see why we need to give you 1 week for explore/pump when its clear you will follow your own advice :P

[goodz]

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