Oh my

[StratOcastle]

You should take advice offered to you smercjd, you will enjoy game a lot more and be better at it.

There is a point to which I agree. If you don't run with the lions you're best option is to walk with the porcupines.

If I have a build strat oow that I see few follow it's what I call being an ugly target. I might have gold, but not enough. I might have a hittable defense, but I'm undead. I might have acres, but i'm gs heavy..

[Band of Horses]

There is a point to which I agree. If you don't run with the lions you're best option is to walk with the porcupines.

If I have a build strat oow that I see few follow it's what I call being an ugly target. I might have gold, but not enough. I might have a hittable defense, but I'm undead. I might have acres, but i'm gs heavy..

Hard to trade hits with a smaller kd that runs GS. The negative gains are just too much. Listen to Strat. You can also rob them while they pump, this is easy way to get a long term CF.

[Olpah]

When the larger kingdom has 2-3x your NW, and the province that hits you is 2x your NW, there's no such thing as "safe" for the smaller province.

Anyway we're not asking you not to shoot at us; But is it really fun playing an FPS when your opponent is limited to a bare knuckles when you're equipped with an AK? The crown you chase, the "land crown", should be renamed the coward's crown, because 99% of the time you're hitting provinces that can't even retaliate because at some point it becomes impossible regardless of how many offense points they have. If that's what floats your boat, I'd be more than happy to ask the developers to create a server of inactive provinces for you. You can get a land crown there and celebrate your awesome achievements. You can even tell your grandchildren illustrious stories about your online exploits.

More seriously, whether you acknowledge it or not, the land crown is what's killing the game. It's part of the reason for the decline in Utopia's popularity.

If you guys really had the sack, you wouldn't be hiding your names at the beginning of the age. You would be going toe-to-toe with the ghettos and equally sized kingdoms. Too bad most of you guys are cowards and afraid to lose acres. You guys would be garbage without your CF's, deals and multi-hour negotiations. But when those deals fall through, and your feelings get hurt, you end up here in the forum like a bunch of school girls crying to each other hoping for an audience. I'm doing you a favor by making you aware of how you're killing what would otherwise be a perfectly good online game.

Here's another thing for you guys to think about, when it comes down to it, you guys really suck at growing. I've been playing this game for a little over week and I've been waiting for your no-good, coward kingdoms to grow fast enough so that I can get more acres in. Seriously after all these years of playing this game, how can you still be so bad?

You're lucky I'm only playing Faery for a ghetto warring kingdom. If I'd been an attacker, you would be saying goodbye to your cow right about now.

And here you are hiding your name as well?? Or you are nobody with a bigger ego then Godly??

[smercjd]

Wow. I told you that I would spend 10 minutes out of my life to help you out (I would have spent more). I told you that Step 1 is to lose the "bully/victim" mentality otherwise you won't grow to become the bully eventually (which is actually the goal of utopia) and all you did was argue with me about not having that mentality or not reading your posts. I read your posts. You have a bully/victim mentality. You think that the top kingdoms are bullies and you should be left alone. If you continue this nonsense, you will forever be a noob.

You do realize that I've been playing at the top of utopia for 15 years, right? I would think that any advice I offer you should be gulped up and not argued with if you're serious about becoming better. So when you waste my time with arguments and playing around with the trolls instead of note taking, of course I'm going to say bye. If I'm trying to make utopia smaller, why do I even offer? Before that, why do I try to make a game that I've devoted half my life to smaller?

The difference between me and other top players is when I get messages saying "WHY COME U KEEP HIT ME?" I actually respond and help them not become targets, at the expense of losing a land farm for myself and my kingdom. The people I message are appreciative, and I continue to monitor them. If I feel like they didn't learn or were just trying to use my niceness to avoid getting hit, I hit them again as a reminder. This is for their own good. As a noob, you should look at me as your life coach. I am not your friend. I am the commander of the noob army. However, you are not ready for greatness, sir.

Thing is I don't have a bully mentality...If that's all you're reading from my question and choose to be stubborn about it, then you can't even give proper advice. I don't think the top kds are bullies. I think the top KDs are the top KDs...if anything I was defending the guy "Fluffy Panda" -- he's the one that was going to (and now has) quit. Though not solely due to the attacks on him.

No - I didn't realize you had been playing "at the top...15years" -- I'm somewhat new and am not familiar with all the forum names. As for advice - of course I gulp advice. Especially when I think it applies. But I am a learner at heart - and just blindly accepting advice is still decent, it's not as good as advice taken with questions and discussions. "do it this way, do it now" only goes so far - answers to why and how make that advice go SOOOO much further. You don't even give me a chance to ask you those questions because you're stuck on "you have a bully mentality, get over it" -- maybe instead of reverting to that pretend like I 'had' a bully mentality and since you said that I no longer have it. At least listen to what I say and give me advice based on what I'm saying. Otherwise, it's not about advice any more - it's about information I can't work with because I won't understand it.

I maybe not have the Utopia experience, but I have a degree in Education. Learning works best when the learner is on the same page as the teacher. The includes willingness to learn, good material given, and most importantly - understanding. When a student asks a question, a teacher that responds with an off-question answer will be almost useless to the student. This typically happens with tutors, too. A math genius trying to explain math to someone that has trouble with will often skip steps because genius guy's mind doesn't even use those steps that the troubled guy still needs.

So before I can take your advice - I need you to know that of course I'm willing to learn. But if you keep grouping me with past "noobs" and are set that I am what you think I am - your advice is going nowhere. Whoever's problem that is (mine or yours) - is debatable. But as a teacher, you attempt to get your point across through multiple perspectives - you can never expect that the student will always find a different perspective to understand. For me, I can't get past your rudeness. Maybe that's a block of mine? I don't know. But when I actively go to the IRC to learn - and get told that I'm "dense" "stupid" and that you're "Unwilling to teach me any longer, good bye" -- doesn't really go anywhere. If you can't see how that method is less than adequate - then are you REALLY sure you're TRYING to teach?

[Maximouse]

Smercjd, you do realise that Fluffy Panda kinda asked to be hit right? As a faery T/M (no TG or anything else to suggest he was an attacking faery), he made a hit into CR leaving himself on 20K def at that time. All leets out for a long time, and about half the defense even our smallest attackers left home around that time. And then he thought it was smart to sent a message to us I couldnt even risk repeating since the context if reported could get you banned. Every prov who had him in NW range was able to DT him without sending leets, and most where able to TT him with only a handfull of leets.
All put together, he was kinda begging to get hit.

[StratOcastle]

Rudeness is commonplace here. I'm not saying you must respect it, but understand that rudeness is culture in Utopia. In Godlys defense, and I'm not going to continue to interrupt myself by saying he needs no defense, he may not be a teacher. He has been generous enough in the past to offer advice, but you might have to take it like great athletes are submarginal coaches. Frankly Godly is at a level I can only observe, but not fully excercise.

You can browse Strategy, but a lot of advice comes from organized kingdom occupants; a far different dynamic than your kingdom. Even so, organized kingdoms are a dime-a-dozen and by following that path you nearly guarantee mediocrity. You have some brilliant minds in your kingdom so don't be afraid to experiment, but be thoughtful in execution.

Let me clarify; most kingdoms will prescribe to some notion of efficiency. Some like orcs, some like undeads. Some like general spell ability with faerie, other like focal elf qualities. The fact is they all give something away to get something. When you look at your kingdom and what you want it to be you should weigh these things. Your most active and experienced players ought to be on the same page with you. They should cover the most crucial areas because they will be the examples by which the rest of the kingdom look to. As monarch in a greedy world you can't expect all your players to regard you with respect. Thus you need your trusted group to act in a manner that influences the skeptics.

In my experience the greatest learning flaw is ego. Because I serve in torn kingdoms I see post war evaluations that are as simple as a dogs observations. ' they were more active ' or ' they were organized ' or ' we didn't chain the t/m '. This is where right brain begs the question ' why?' - You need mechanics to bring strats to full realization, but these aren't the guys that dream them up very often. They know the math, they know the efficiencies, but they don't know how to defeat the math or the efficiencies. This is the job of the strategist. The math is the job of logistics manager. Swallow the egos on both sides and you have a working kingdom. As monarch your obligation is to decipher who carries these characteristics and welcome their architecture; blend it, test it, ask questions about it.

[Godly]

I'm a man who doesn't sugar coat anything. I tell you exactly what I'm thinking. Some people are put off by that. I really don't care. I'm not a teacher... I'm Michael Jordan telling you how to play basketball.

Again...this isn't a cry for pity. They are honest questions. What are your motives for doing that? Why do you have CFs with your competitors - shouldn't they be the ones you're targeting? The ones that are your size? What's the motive for the 2nd KD? Cause you certainly won't get a war out of that...lastly what's the motive for the other KDs...the motive to try/play when you are constantly harassed by the 25prov KDs...

So I'll highlight a quote from your OP. To me this sounds like someone who is confused why he is being targetted by top kingdoms instead of them hitting each other. It sounds like you think that the top kingdoms are bullying (harassing) smaller kingdoms. Thus, when I read this ****, I say you have a bully/victim mentality. There are other posts in this thread that give similar hints. I don't know you. I can only judge based on your words.

NOW, to answer your questions:

1) What are motives for hitting you? You have inadequately demonstrated a threat of doing so. There are several ways to portray that your land is not easy land.
a) Have offense on the majority of your players (big kingdoms don't like to trade hits)
b) Have some mystics or in general have a lot of WPA/TPA (big kingdoms don't like to be fireballed).
When you are attacked, you must use your resources to damage the kingdom that attacked you. If you fireball their big provinces or retaliate the hits, I guarantee a CF request will be coming instantly. That isn't enough. Don't accept that CF. Set terms of the CF before accepting. Otherwise they'll CF you to remove relations and hit again in 24 hrs. If you have terms, most top kingdoms are honorable enough to abide by them.

Despite what people think, GS are not a deterrent. A safe hit is a safe hit, 20 acres or 200 acres. The only thing GS will do is ensure there are more hits into your kingdom. You must establish fear for people to not attack you. GS are almost always a war-only building. If you are getting hit, you're playing incorrectly to start with* (see below)

2) We have CFs with our competitors because their land is not easy. We would rather CF tough kingdoms and go after weaklings like your kingdom. Once we grow to a sufficient size and run out of targets like your kingdom, we will fight other tough kingdoms. Yes, we are bullies. Welcome to utopia. It's a game of bullying and predators eating prey. If you're expecting isolation due to being new, you're playing the wrong game. You can either accept this, become better and become the bully, or you should probably just quit now.

3) Whats the motive for the second kingdom? If you were a good target for the first kingdom, you are a good target for the second kingdom. Most top kingdoms have core players of very similar talent level. Thus, hits are commonly shared across the board. There isn't collusion. There will never be an instance of top Kingdom A telling top Kingdom B that X is a great target because that just takes away potential land gained from Kingdom A. Not even strong allies will do this.

4) The motive for the kingdom razing you? Probably piss poor diplomacy on your part. I spent 5-10 minutes talking to you on IRC and my takeaway from it was that I would have probably razed you as well. You're somewhat annoying, don't listen, and if you start sending messages to me about honor and justice in utopia and make hits into the kingdom, I would classify you as a monarch who won't listen to reason and move in for the razes to remove the very few threats you DO have. I believe you mentioned your monarch and steward got the razes. So yeah, chances are the razes are 100% on your shoulders for poor diplomacy. Kingdoms don't generally raze just for the hell of it as it isn't giving them anything. This **** is dog eat dog, and if the small dog has a big bark and little bite, they get put down very fast.

*
Total Attacks Made 22
Total Land Gained in Combat 1676
Attacks Suffered 1
Times Defeated 1
Total Land Lost in Combat 130

I have taken 1676 acres from players in utopia and have only been hit back one time. That one time was an expected retaliation on a kingdom that we power played that had offense. This is how you play utopia. You make safe hits, don't get retaliated, and you don't run GS. I can, and have, replicate this in any kingdom on the server -- 200k nw or 200 mil nw so there isn't any reason why anyone cant accomplish this. Be the bully.

Hope this helps.

[Fluffy Panda]

Smercjd, you do realise that Fluffy Panda kinda asked to be hit right? As a faery T/M (no TG or anything else to suggest he was an attacking faery), he made a hit into CR leaving himself on 20K def at that time. All leets out for a long time, and about half the defense even our smallest attackers left home around that time. And then he thought it was smart to sent a message to us I couldnt even risk repeating since the context if reported could get you banned. Every prov who had him in NW range was able to DT him without sending leets, and most where able to TT him with only a handfull of leets.
All put together, he was kinda begging to get hit.

Maximouse, did I send you a message asking, begging, for you to hit me initially? Just a thought, maybe you'd like to include the fact that YOUR kingdom hit first -- and that my attack was in retaliation for an attack made by a province 2x my size. Did you think that because I wasn't an attacking Feary, that I'd roll over and take it? See you make it seem like I'm the victim for leaving no defenses at home, but in reality with the game mechanics and the kingdom size/networth difference, my attack was the only retaliation option I had available to me.

Hey you know, everyone messes up. Of course, you all were looking for a non-attacking Faery, because you were hoping for "safe acres", again like a bunch of cowards. Sure, I wasn't set up to be an attacking Faery as a mystic but I sure turned into one fast, huh? But you got one thing right, I was begging for some hits. Because in the end, I forced you guys to make 3 attacks on me to cover your losses from my hit, got myself GB protection (to retaliate again) and gained ops against your kingdom. Who's the noob? Someone mention they had been playing for 15 years huh? I'd say someone's been wasting their time.

[Bukharistan]

I'm a man who doesn't sugar coat anything. I tell you exactly what I'm thinking. Some people are put off by that. I really don't care. I'm not a teacher... I'm Michael Jordan telling you how to play basketball.

Respect. That's how I role aswell. I failed in 2 Kingdoms last age for telling them exactly what I thought :D one guy who thought turtling up was the best way to win wars because "look I'm big" intra-razed me when I pointed that out to him.

Today I had one of my players leave because I pointed out that 28K def on 700 acres is too low for a faery :P

[smercjd]

I'm a man who doesn't sugar coat anything. I tell you exactly what I'm thinking. Some people are put off by that. I really don't care. I'm not a teacher... I'm Michael Jordan telling you how to play basketball.



So I'll highlight a quote from your OP. To me this sounds like someone who is confused why he is being targetted by top kingdoms instead of them hitting each other. It sounds like you think that the top kingdoms are bullying (harassing) smaller kingdoms. Thus, when I read this ****, I say you have a bully/victim mentality. There are other posts in this thread that give similar hints. I don't know you. I can only judge based on your words.

NOW, to answer your questions:

1) What are motives for hitting you? You have inadequately demonstrated a threat of doing so. There are several ways to portray that your land is not easy land.
a) Have offense on the majority of your players (big kingdoms don't like to trade hits)
b) Have some mystics or in general have a lot of WPA/TPA (big kingdoms don't like to be fireballed).
When you are attacked, you must use your resources to damage the kingdom that attacked you. If you fireball their big provinces or retaliate the hits, I guarantee a CF request will be coming instantly. That isn't enough. Don't accept that CF. Set terms of the CF before accepting. Otherwise they'll CF you to remove relations and hit again in 24 hrs. If you have terms, most top kingdoms are honorable enough to abide by them.

Despite what people think, GS are not a deterrent. A safe hit is a safe hit, 20 acres or 200 acres. The only thing GS will do is ensure there are more hits into your kingdom. You must establish fear for people to not attack you. GS are almost always a war-only building. If you are getting hit, you're playing incorrectly to start with* (see below)

2) We have CFs with our competitors because their land is not easy. We would rather CF tough kingdoms and go after weaklings like your kingdom. Once we grow to a sufficient size and run out of targets like your kingdom, we will fight other tough kingdoms. Yes, we are bullies. Welcome to utopia. It's a game of bullying and predators eating prey. If you're expecting isolation due to being new, you're playing the wrong game. You can either accept this, become better and become the bully, or you should probably just quit now.

3) Whats the motive for the second kingdom? If you were a good target for the first kingdom, you are a good target for the second kingdom. Most top kingdoms have core players of very similar talent level. Thus, hits are commonly shared across the board. There isn't collusion. There will never be an instance of top Kingdom A telling top Kingdom B that X is a great target because that just takes away potential land gained from Kingdom A. Not even strong allies will do this.

4) The motive for the kingdom razing you? Probably piss poor diplomacy on your part. I spent 5-10 minutes talking to you on IRC and my takeaway from it was that I would have probably razed you as well. You're somewhat annoying, don't listen, and if you start sending messages to me about honor and justice in utopia and make hits into the kingdom, I would classify you as a monarch who won't listen to reason and move in for the razes to remove the very few threats you DO have. I believe you mentioned your monarch and steward got the razes. So yeah, chances are the razes are 100% on your shoulders for poor diplomacy. Kingdoms don't generally raze just for the hell of it as it isn't giving them anything. This **** is dog eat dog, and if the small dog has a big bark and little bite, they get put down very fast.

*
Total Attacks Made 22
Total Land Gained in Combat 1676
Attacks Suffered 1
Times Defeated 1
Total Land Lost in Combat 130

I have taken 1676 acres from players in utopia and have only been hit back one time. That one time was an expected retaliation on a kingdom that we power played that had offense. This is how you play utopia. You make safe hits, don't get retaliated, and you don't run GS. I can, and have, replicate this in any kingdom on the server -- 200k nw or 200 mil nw so there isn't any reason why anyone cant accomplish this. Be the bully.

Hope this helps.

Godly - yes. This is exactly what helps. I 100% appreciate that reply. Thank you.

The only thing I'm not sure about is #4...I approached the Kingdom and they really had no reason - I really think they made a mistake. I searched my entire news and found nothing to warrant their actions. I think they realized this and moved on pretty quickly. Their attacks literally made no sense. The only thing it could have been (if not a mistake) was some sort of alliance with one of the big KDs or the KD we had a war agreed with and they were trying to do something about it. Otherwise, it simply made no sense. Even if they had an alliance - the attacks only made it better for us - actually. It took away acres that weren't really necessary. I was not hurt by the attacks enough for them to hurt our war agreed. The targets they picked to hit didn't help the bigger KDs (so this leads me to believe they didn't have any such alliance).

Again - thanks for the honest (and more tactful) answers to the questions. Others have also replied in here and in PMs and I've learned a lot from them as well. I also appreciate the added information that others had not included (GS not being a deterrent, etc). Those are equally helpful to a much less experience person like myself who might consider other options than just "offense." Believe it or not - I actually was telling the Fluffy Panda that if he continued to grow - we would have no attackers near his size to be able to retal for him. I made some KD decisions to alleviate this situation (which I got berated by him for). Then this happened. Though he was angry at me - I wanted to defend his accusations. I actually apologized to Maximouse for the message he sent. I don't think this is acceptable behavior in Utopia and I don't promote the behavior at all. It's an interesting concept that the whole KD must be a team to function correctly against top players like this. One province can't do it all. Even with an attacker that can retal -- yes it'll make the big guys think twice - but they might still go in w/o at least a couple others who can retal in the same manner.

As for the bully mentality. Maybe I have a little bit of it - I don't think I do, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. My biggest concern wasn't because of one kingdom's actions. It was that so many KDs did the same thing at the same time. Then, when I approached the kingdoms with diplomatic efforts - I either got short answers of who gives a F (Maximouse) -- or suggestions of what to do. One thing they all said, however, was that they all have CFs with each other. Thus looking suspicious. But you've clarified that with your most recent response. It seems as though we were just unlucky/looked like a good target to everyone at the same time.

@Strat0 -- I'm not sure I fully understood your last post. Might have been a bit above my head in the realm of intelligence. If you're saying I have too much ego to learn - I think you might have mis-read me. OR my tiny amount of ego IS too much. Rudeness is just one thing I can't really get past. I don't see the point in it. Godly's last post was much less rude and much easier to understand for someone like me. I think responses like those to someone who genuinely wants to learn the game and improve the attractiveness of the game are good. They help me understand some of the meta strategy for bigger kingdoms and how to function as a smaller ghetto kingdom who isn't involved in that meta but able to fight back against it.

I am most happy that we have all ended up on the same page. (Except maybe Fluffy). I learned quite a lot and I think that maybe some of you did, too. Take it easy with instruction. What seems a simple concept to you, might be very difficult for a new person walking into this game. Some new guys are stuck to what their one province can do rather than what their whole KD can do. Some might have reached the KD level of thought...but most (if not all) new players have a long way to go to understanding the WORLD of Utopia.

[smercjd]

Respect. That's how I role aswell. I failed in 2 Kingdoms last age for telling them exactly what I thought :D one guy who thought turtling up was the best way to win wars because "look I'm big" intra-razed me when I pointed that out to him.

Today I had one of my players leave because I pointed out that 28K def on 700 acres is too low for a faery :P

I'm not sure what your goals are. If they are keeping those players and helping them learn - then the way you say things goes a long way. I can't say I've mastered the art of teaching players and keeping them from leaving...can't please everyone. But if I were that province in your KD and you told me those things - it would heavily depend on how you told me. If you had reasons behind them, I would almost certainly convert. If you told me I sucked because I didn't have those things, I would probably just leave - lol. I'm assuming you were tactful - and so, I end up at the answer that some don't really want to learn or change. For those people - I'm learning that you CAN be rude to. But it's best to see if they are willing before resorting to that first.

[smercjd]

Smercjd, you do realise that Fluffy Panda kinda asked to be hit right? As a faery T/M (no TG or anything else to suggest he was an attacking faery), he made a hit into CR leaving himself on 20K def at that time. All leets out for a long time, and about half the defense even our smallest attackers left home around that time. And then he thought it was smart to sent a message to us I couldnt even risk repeating since the context if reported could get you banned. Every prov who had him in NW range was able to DT him without sending leets, and most where able to TT him with only a handfull of leets.
All put together, he was kinda begging to get hit.

I answered this elsewhere but wanted to make sure you knew that yes I did realize this. I tried explaining to him the flaw in him outgrowing the whole kingdom -- eventually he was going to be alone up there with no attackers to help him. He got mad at me for making some KD-wide decisions to help our attackers grow to defend him. Then got mad at me when you guys attacked him. Then got mad at me when I CF'd you. He wanted to keep hitting you. The problem was, you guys weren't going to just attack him. You were going to keep hitting other provinces in our KD. It wasn't really a good thing for either kingdom in the long run. Just as a big growth KD doesn't want to take some retals -- the smaller ghettos don't want their war agreed ruined, or all their provinces being hit because of one guy's actions. I don't know - maybe I made the wrong choice in CF. Should I have done something differently? Should I have ordered my KD to make more hits into your kingdom? To cast those FBs/LLs, etc? Meanwhile taking hits from other big KDs and the random guys razing us all while still having the war agreed? Didn't seem like the best idea to me - but maybe it's what I should have done.

Anyway - I've been called annoying by 2 people so far. Fluffy Panda and Godly. (Not even the KD that razed me said I was annoying). Makes me wonder why you feel this way about me. Because I don't take shortness for an answer? Because my curiosity to learn surpasses my concerns for being insulted? I have feelings! I'm a real person, too!! :p lol

[Verminator]

Then got mad at me when I CF'd you. He wanted to keep hitting you.

A student of the Outplayerz School of Retaliation.

I don't know - maybe I made the wrong choice in CF. Should I have done something differently?

Nope. CF was easily the right move.

You have nothing to prove against a top kingdom. Pride can be your worst enemy in this game, you'll see that all over the place, at all levels. Monarchs take personal offense, monarchs let pride get the better of them, monarchs don't accept when they're beaten, monarchs get their kingdoms into trouble. Don't be proud. Be smart. Pick your battles wisely and you'll never regret the outcome. :)

Anyway - I've been called annoying by 2 people so far. Makes me wonder why you feel this way about me.

You're a new monarch with a new kingdom that doesn't immediately just bow to the veterans. They expect respect, no matter the case. In some way they've earned that right, but in another way it doesn't really excuse some of their behavior. Some will expect you to just oooooo and ahhhhh over their status in the game. Others are indifferent, but will flaunt their status when provoked. Some just want you to learn stuff for yourself because they're not interested in teaching others, they're just interested in their niche of the game and how they fit into it.

All of them, however, have at least earned the right to take whatever stance they want with newer or less knowledgeable players. The best you can hope to do is shrug off the negative ones and thank the positive ones for their help. It's not your job to change them or get them to respond to you positively, but it is your job to soak up whatever knowledge you can get in general and pass it on to your kingdom in the form of your actions. Make the game a better place for your kingdom and you'll be doing just fine. :)

[StratOcastle]

My reference to ego is general, not directed at anyone. Even nice people have ego and must hold it up against self interest. For instance, trying to sway what you decide or how you move forward.

Now for an odd lesson. FLYPAPER:

Flypaper is in essence exposing yourself to a situation not knowing that it's a trap. Here's one example you should be aware of as monarch; Sweet Targets. Targets to wave or randoms that seem too good to be true often are subjects of Snatch News. A province or a kingdom may sit back and collect Snatch News from hapless ghetto and watch to see who's waving them. Sometimes the intel is shared and the signature of this is getting hit by an enemy who didn't gather intel. That's not a reliable signature since they could send a one thief mock up to disguise shared intel.

[smercjd]

My reference to ego is general, not directed at anyone. Even nice people have ego and must hold it up against self interest. For instance, trying to sway what you decide or how you move forward.

Now for an odd lesson. FLYPAPER:

Flypaper is in essence exposing yourself to a situation not knowing that it's a trap. Here's one example you should be aware of as monarch; Sweet Targets. Targets to wave or randoms that seem too good to be true often are subjects of Snatch News. A province or a kingdom may sit back and collect Snatch News from hapless ghetto and watch to see who's waving them. Sometimes the intel is shared and the signature of this is getting hit by an enemy who didn't gather intel. That's not a reliable signature since they could send a one thief mock up to disguise shared intel.

:O Dirtyyy....