PewPew vs AMA

[Binar]

AMA has given ops to random "ghettoes" at bad times more then once this age.
Thats not anyones fault but their own and even Elit admitted this in our talks yesterday

[TommyB]

No one ever said there was blame, all I say is Jerks actions lead to big advantage for another kingdom (coincidentally both times PewPew) when warring AMA.

If there wasn't any coordination then I'd say you guys should stick to not coordinating as it seems to work a lot better than actively trying to cooperate. :p

[Binar]

No one ever said there was blame, all I say is Jerks actions lead to big advantage for another kingdom (coincidentally both times PewPew) when warring AMA.

If there wasn't any coordination then I'd say you guys should stick to not coordinating as it seems to work a lot better than actively trying to cooperate. :p

I would agree!
Personally I have a little thing in Pew called: "DO NOT GIVE GHETTOS OPS WHEN U R SITTING ON SH1TLOAD OF GC!!!!!!!" and "DO NOT GIVE GHETTOES OPS WHEN YOU JUST LAUNCHED A COW WITH NO WPA"
I just find that safer

[Aranfein]

I heard its all Abs fault with their hidden return ;)

Also jerks could have played their dealings better, but so could AMA both KDs knew what would happen, Jerks knew b2b might be on cards when failing talks and AMA knew PewPew would come for them.

Hope BB / Pyro watching their tails if they try warring it out.

Shai half your text is "pewpew knew this" other half is "we" - are you with them or not?

either way gl in the hostile/war will be interesting to see how AMA decides to play the cards given.

[Bukharistan]

I'm not one of "them guys", I'm one of "you guys", just without the inferiority complex and not so full of hate.

I'm not full of hate, just giving them some advice to prevent this from happening in the future.

[Chrystal Palace]

Can we have a Scooby doo themed pre war party?

[Binar]

Shai half your text is "pewpew knew this" other half is "we" - are you with them or not?

Shai is my steward and his post are Pews official view of the situation

[TommyB]

I'm not full of hate, just giving them some advice to prevent this from happening in the future.

When I tell you that there's a difference between deal-breaking and bullying you don't even get what I'm saying and instead immediately put me down as "them" who don't "give a ****" about a "noob" like yourself. This alone is pretty telling.

I'm gonna have to spell out the difference.

- Bullying: A better kingdom takes your stuff because you're not able to defend it.
- Deal-Breaking: You make a deal with someone and wait until their backs are turned from trusting your word, then you backstab them.

If this is the same for you then I don't know what else to tell you.

[Band of Horses]

I would agree!
Personally I have a little thing in Pew called: "DO NOT GIVE GHETTOS OPS WHEN U R SITTING ON SH1TLOAD OF GC!!!!!!!" and "DO NOT GIVE GHETTOES OPS WHEN YOU JUST LAUNCHED A COW WITH NO WPA"
I just find that safer

I thought this was as common a philosophy as max gaining right before surrendering to minimize your losses. Hmm now that I say that I think I see the issue here.

[Shai]

No one ever said there was blame, all I say is Jerks actions lead to big advantage for another kingdom (coincidentally both times PewPew) when warring AMA.

If there wasn't any coordination then I'd say you guys should stick to not coordinating as it seems to work a lot better than actively trying to cooperate. :p

Actually thats only partial true in the first war, and that was accidental, and it wouldnt have changed the outcome of that war.

AMA gained a ****load of acres from Jerks (was it 30k all in all with ww bonus and the second hostile?) and went from totally out of the race to straight into it.

From PewPews point of view it would had been ALOT better if Jerks didnt face AMA at all. And for the very same reason AMA went for Jerks twice trying to milk as much acres as they possibly could from them

[goodz]

Dang in game war is ruining my forum activity.

GL byenar

[StratOcastle]

I'm still being slopped to the chain pigs in our war, but have had time to gather the evidence on this very page: Jerks warring to advantage was the best opportunity to get back in the race. - I FEEL like I know what I'm talking about, but I don't KNOW what I'm talking about. please continue...

[Proteus]

Since the AMA propaganda machine is at work lets clear some things out:

PewPew asked Jerks to let them know when they got out of, or ended their hostile with AMA. Notice counts from the tick Jerks stopped hits on AMA, got into another war and send a ingame CF. That was when notice was to be given, when Jerks stopped fighting AMA and it became a one sided hostile. That is a valid notice. Not a dealbreak.

AMA can go on all along about how Elit, who doesnt lead this age according to himself (taking time off), made a deal with Pet, who quit PewPew, that noone else have knowledge of.

Pet put 48h notice with AMA into the topic of PewPew leadership channel with the rest of PewPews CFs this age. Cello, who lead AMA this age and did their official dealings with Binar came THREE times to Binar and confirmed the 48h notice deal and tried to re-negotiate it. When we didnt want to remove the 85% land range deal (AMA wanted it removed so they had the chance to bully themselves and EoA war vs a smaller PewPew if standings would be such close to EoA) Cello ended the LAST cf talks with "Fair enough, guess we'll see you guys again after our war with Jerks then". Thats an actual quote.

How a deal allegedly made between two players who doesnt lead anymore can exceed a deal confirmed three times between the actuall leaders is beyond me. If both kd leaders was sure this was the deal, then IT IS THE DEAL.

Their war ended somewhere in year 5. But instead of prepping for PewPew (which they had ample time for) they decided to try and force another hostile on Jerks? Why? They had confirmed the 48h notice three times and Cello had told us we will see them in Year 6? This didnt leave PewPew much choice but to train up to 65% draft and get ready to be noticed at start of Year 6. We were 100% sure the talks about going after Jerks a second time was just a smokescreen with the hope to catch us on low draft sci pumping and then notice us and catching us pants down. Also cause it made 0 sense with our cf deal coming to an end.

Why AMA would start and try to force a war from a kd who clearly stated they wont war them right at the start of Year 6 when notice could be given is beyond me. Only reason I can think of is to try and dodge a year 6 war with PewPew. Or try to ruin any chances for PewPew to scipump, since PewPew had to be ready for a notice with short preperations. This they managed fine with since PewPew had to sit drafted to 65% and just wait for AMA to end their hostilities with Jerks.

Seing how PewPew got a week of scipumping ruined by sitting ready for AMA I dont get why AMA is supriced they got noticed when their fight ended? Why would PewPew sit there losing time watching AMA bully another kd into the ground just to dodge the fight? AMA should have know this would happen. They made their bed and now they dont like it, simple as that.

I dont play anymore but from reading your post you sound like a n00b, which I already know from the history of DoA. I idle in AMA private and even asked the guys during their fight with jerks what their deal with you was as I thought you'd try to vulture them when this was over and it wasn't just 48h notice, it seems like pet made a deal with elit and afte that quit and you guys are using that as an excuse to do what you want.

Shainoob why do you assume if ama and jerks have plenty of beef that ama is going to hit someone oow in a move that almost certainly will not result in war is doing it to dodge your kd, you sound like a bign00b. I'm sorry the game doesnt resolve around your ass. And if you didnt want to sit on 65% draft you should have done a duration cf. The main reason for your play is because you want to have the opportunity to vulture AMA while you have pumped and come in with advantages since every single time your kd has faced AMA and other kds of that caliber in past ages, you've lost each and every time. If you guys actually wan to prove you are better than someone why dont you try and actually beat them in a close fight rather than vulturing people, your kd doesnt have a chance to crown anyways might as well prove you guys can war good kds.

Further one party cant unilaterally deicde a hostile is over and go to war with another kd. That's using fw to dodge a on going fight. The last time this happened was when sanc and ama had hostile oow and sanc unilaterally decided hostile was "over" and havoc hit ama. Honestly anyone who participates in lame coordination like this needs to be gbed. You cant just say hostile is over and get your bigger friends to step in, of thats the case then ama should just retal war pewpew oow and bb or some other kd needs to say hostile is over and start hitting pewpew. I thought you guys were all about trying to play clean but it seems you are up to your lame tricks again, i mean with as profound of a history of ****playing as you guys have it doesnt surprise me.

[Binar]

I dont play anymore but from reading your post you sound like a n00b, which I already know from the history of DoA. I idle in AMA private and even asked the guys during their fight with jerks what their deal with you was as I thought you'd try to vulture them when this was over and it wasn't just 48h notice, it seems like pet made a deal with elit and afte that quit and you guys are using that as an excuse to do what you want.

Shainoob why do you assume if ama and jerks have plenty of beef that ama is going to hit someone oow in a move that almost certainly will not result in war is doing it to dodge your kd, you sound like a bign00b. I'm sorry the game doesnt resolve around your ass. And if you didnt want to sit on 65% draft you should have done a duration cf. The main reason for your play is because you want to have the opportunity to vulture AMA while you have pumped and come in with advantages since every single time your kd has faced AMA and other kds of that caliber in past ages, you've lost each and every time. If you guys actually wan to prove you are better than someone why dont you try and actually beat them in a close fight rather than vulturing people, your kd doesnt have a chance to crown anyways might as well prove you guys can war good kds.

Further one party cant unilaterally deicde a hostile is over and go to war with another kd. That's using fw to dodge a on going fight. The last time this happened was when sanc and ama had hostile oow and sanc unilaterally decided hostile was "over" and havoc hit ama. Honestly anyone who participates in lame coordination like this needs to be gbed. You cant just say hostile is over and get your bigger friends to step in, of thats the case then ama should just retal war pewpew oow and bb or some other kd needs to say hostile is over and start hitting pewpew. I thought you guys were all about trying to play clean but it seems you are up to your lame tricks again, i mean with as profound of a history of ****playing as you guys have it doesnt surprise me.

TLDR

Didnt u retire?

[Elit]

Since the AMA propaganda machine is at work lets clear some things out:

AMA can go on all along about how Elit, who doesnt lead this age according to himself (taking time off), made a deal with Pet, who quit PewPew, that noone else have knowledge of.

Pet put 48h notice with AMA into the topic of PewPew leadership channel with the rest of PewPews CFs this age. Cello, who lead AMA this age and did their official dealings with Binar came THREE times to Binar and confirmed the 48h notice deal and tried to re-negotiate it. When we didnt want to remove the 85% land range deal (AMA wanted it removed so they had the chance to bully themselves and EoA war vs a smaller PewPew if standings would be such close to EoA) Cello ended the LAST cf talks with "Fair enough, guess we'll see you guys again after our war with Jerks then". Thats an actual quote.

How a deal allegedly made between two players who doesnt lead anymore can exceed a deal confirmed three times between the actuall leaders is beyond me. If both kd leaders was sure this was the deal, then IT IS THE DEAL.

Propaganda is post you just made. If you ask for pew pew every one know its Pet kingdom and when he is around all you are peons. When he make deal for pew its deal pew made. About me its clear im less active this age but im still play and have final say on all. So deal we made is only legit deal both kds have and your kd is try to change it use chat from binar/cello where both parties didunt agree to any new deal. If pet didunt left you logs was easy to ask me for it.
What you doing is pure BS and DEAL BREAK when you know our deal terms you still insist for 48h notice given in hostile.

TLDR

Didnt u retire?

Actually his post was good. If you don't have what to say don't post.