PewPew vs AMA

[Elit]

Cello started it, as I told you since the start of this: Cello is to blame

Can you update me wen your notice expire. I, kinda lost from all Palem spam in forum.

[Binar]

Can you update me wen your notice expire. I, kinda lost from all Palem spam in forum.

Next hostile date: March 11th, YR7 - 1day 10hrs 16mins 41secs (35 Ticks)

[Elit]

Next hostile date: March 11th, YR7 - 1day 10hrs 16mins 41secs (35 Ticks)

are you sure its march 11 not march 9? Dont want another miscommunication and get waved :P

[Binar]

are you sure its march 11 not march 9? Dont want another miscommunication and get waved :P

Yes Iam sure :)

[TommyB]

Forcing a b2b on a kd that's a tad bigger than half your size because they max gained before they surrendered is the proper and fair way to compete for the land crown?

Since you seem to be too busy to verify facts in between all your post I went to over to that old AMA/Jerks thread.

** The kingdom of A:MA **
Total land exchanged: +1,476 (117/106)

That was the outcome of first war which you called "AMA farming Jerks" in some earlier post. I don't have exact size after that but "a tad bigger than half your size" is ridiculously off the mark.

Sorry I'm so mean again, I don't want to. You're pushing me. :(((

[Binar]

sorry i'm so mean again, i don't want to. You're pushing me. :(((

stop making me hit you!

[Palem]

Since you seem to be too busy to verify facts in between all your post I went to over to that old AMA/Jerks thread.



That was the outcome of first war which you called "AMA farming Jerks" in some earlier post. I don't have exact size after that but "a tad bigger than half your size" is ridiculously off the mark.

Sorry I'm so mean again, I don't want to. You're pushing me. :(((

Your trolling is bad and you should feel bad
War only:
** The kingdom of A:MA **
Total land exchanged: +2,887 (187/162)

War+Hostile:
** The kingdom of A:MA **
Total land exchanged: +5,262 (214/168)


As of 6 hours ago, AMA was over twice the size of Jerks, who they fully intended on pushing to war.


Try harder.

[Elit]

As of 6 hours ago, AMA was over twice the size of Jerks, who they fully intended on pushing to war.
Try harder.

When AMA go for round 2 both kds was in declare range and 3 dragons send from ama and 1 from jerks. They loss land and being half size dont mean hostile is auto over.
Dont forget you claimed Jerks "won crown" but its was result after they retal war for 2 weeks half size kd and get war with them. So if you say its won why i cant won same way after retal war them and get war? Dont you think pew interfere can be considered for chart shape prevent us win crown same way?

[Elldallan]

Forcing a b2b on a kd that's a tad bigger than half your size because they max gained before they surrendered is the proper and fair way to compete for the land crown?

Nobody was forced into anything, from what both sides has confirmed Jerks were given a dirt cheap way out. So the claim that anybody was forced into anything is entirely an imaginary construction.

[Palem]

AMA was forcing Jerks to either B2B or give up some ridiculous amount of land for free to CF.

Just because there's option presented doesn't mean AMA isn't trying force Jerks into doing what they want.


That's like saying "You may either shoot yourself in the head, or in the heart, otherwise I'm going to shoot you in the stomach and you'll die slowly. I'm not forcing you to kill yourself because I'm giving you an option"

[Elldallan]

AMA was forcing Jerks to either B2B or give up some ridiculous amount of land for free to CF.

Just because there's option presented doesn't mean AMA isn't trying force Jerks into doing what they want.


That's like saying "You may either shoot yourself in the head, or in the heart, otherwise I'm going to shoot you in the stomach and you'll die slowly. I'm not forcing you to kill yourself because I'm giving you an option"

Amount was hardly ridiculous, hell, they even lowered their offer and still Jerks refused, most other top kingdom leaders(current or previous) who commented on it said that the amount was incredibly cheap so it's not just my personal opinion.
Having to give up acres for CF seems to be the norm these days almost regardless of situation.

[Palem]

They already gave up acres...in war.

Elit was being greedy

[tetley]

Elldallan/Proteus,

Are you suggesting that if one kingdom stops hitting and opping another kingdom entirely, that the aggressor kingdom can continue to claim hostile for as long as they want until they decide to accept a CF? Surely there is a point where the conflict no longer offers protection from other people getting involved, even without both parties agreeing...

[Meep]

Guys, I looked back through my saved KD news, and AMA has hit into my ghetto while it was hostile not just once, but TWICE this age. This unprovoked double hostility is ridiculous and unfair attempt for gain aces.

Is total ****play and hypocritical behavior, I expect all kds come help by gangbang AMA and punish poor sportsmanship.

[Elldallan]

Elldallan/Proteus,

Are you suggesting that if one kingdom stops hitting and opping another kingdom entirely, that the aggressor kingdom can continue to claim hostile for as long as they want until they decide to accept a CF? Surely there is a point where the conflict no longer offers protection from other people getting involved, even without both parties agreeing...

Yes certainly there is such a point. The game mechanisms would suggest that this point is when relations for one side drops below the point at which you have access to hostile op's or when the defending kingdom would normally loose access to button(if they were in range).

However 18 days is obviously ridiculously long but since the defending kingdom could technically start op's, attacks again (and even declare if they're in range) when somebody else starts a new conflict with the original aggressor it's the only point that makes sense in terms of mechanics at which point conflict can be considered to be over(assuming at least one party is still maintaining the conflict actively).
Because this time is obviously extremely long and because of that obviously open to abuse(what if 2 allies swap attacks with each other, enough to maintain hostile relations for an entire age except when they wants to get into a conflict etc)
So giving a definite answer on exactly where that point lies is extremely hard, maybe even impossible but I agree with you that at least in theory such a point exists, where exactly it's situated is something that can probably never be agreed upon unless the relations system is changed.