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    Munk said panda noticed BB that was your "proof" with that assumption you thought hey Panda notice allies lol. Just should have paid attention to who posted
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    Their in-game kd name confirmed they were noticing.
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    Korp, you talk a lot of **** and try and put words into other peoples moths to try and make them look bad. I never said the things you claim I said. I have never claimed to be perfect or to have never done any form of cheating or to have never done anything dishonorable. It's only people like you making that up.

    I might state that I didn't do a certain specific thing or that something someone else did was worse than what I have done. You take the attitude that we are all sinners so therefore no one anywhere should ever say anything anyone else does is wrong. That's your choice, but if that's your position, then you should at least be consistent in who you apply it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    "dorje: its Bour that should be razing"
    Why'd leave this part out when it was said right after and elaborated in more detail on his suggestion?

    jdorje 6:19 PM
    "if we cf them, bour is dead and that is bad for us so if i were bour i'd go get the cf now with threats of postwar hitting if they refuse"

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    Why so mad if nothing was true? Think there might be a grain of truth in ther after all. For someone that has been trying to push and twist the general opinion and put "words in other mouths" you have no right to get upset about others doing the same thing towards you.

    You claimed Absalom didnt cheat though, I cant help if you dont remember all bull**** you spew out. Then it was countered by both Snirpsner and Ironballs confirmed that wasnt true. You claimed Absalom never did any **** play at all. Hell, we know that isnt true.

    We are all sinners, but those that pretend their sins are less bad than others and at the same time tries to smear those others are just patethic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    For someone who just met abs this age you sure remember things that hurt abs from 4 years ago remarkably well
    Or I just read the forums actively.

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    Having a active hostile where one side is claiming its not hostile so Mercy can vulture Ama you mean?

    But overall you sound like an Absalom fanboy. You as outsider seem to sit on very much privileged information as well.

    But if Absalom has such high moral why do these and multiple other situation happens over and over again?
    You mean kind of like FS vs. ED in this very thread?

    It's not really any like of absalom so much as when I started playing again a few years ago, Elit being an entitled prick resulted in me being a fan of his opponents.

    Also, what privileged information? All of that is in the numerous threads about the issue that came up.

    Do you really think the happening over and over again issue is an abs thing and not just a 'top KDs like their drama' thing?

    How much drama was AMA involved in during the ?5? ?6? ages they existed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meep View Post
    Or I just read the forums actively.



    You mean kind of like FS vs. ED in this very thread?

    It's not really any like of absalom so much as when I started playing again a few years ago, Elit being an entitled prick resulted in me being a fan of his opponents.

    Also, what privileged information? All of that is in the numerous threads about the issue that came up.

    Do you really think the happening over and over again issue is an abs thing and not just a 'top KDs like their drama' thing?

    How much drama was AMA involved in during the ?5? ?6? ages they existed?
    What is bad is base your opinions from reading the forums. Naivety as its finest when you think you can get good informations from infected threads in a public forum. :) I guess you get all your politics information from FOX as well? ..

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    *yawn*

    Emeriti are full of ****.
    BeastBlood went too far.
    ASF posts overly long narratives and should be sent to the gulag

    I'm glad I have Korp on ignore and wonder if there is a way to block posts that respond to him.

    This is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makeo View Post

    I'm glad I have Korp on ignore.

    :)
    One forum goal achieved, im almost done with my bucket list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korp View Post
    What is bad is base your opinions from reading the forums. Naivety as its finest when you think you can get good informations from infected threads in a public forum. :) I guess you get all your politics information from FOX as well? ..
    Is it opinion that the age changes as it pertained to fort were worded incorrectly? No, it is fact, and bishop admitted that and changed the wording.

    Is it opinion that AMA stonewalled CF negotiations with sanc during EOWCF? No, it is fact, Elit stated as such because he was not obligated to CF Sanc and was within his rights to go after them again. This is of course read by me as him wanting options to get away from Havoc.

    Is it opinion that Elit accused Sanc/Havoc of farming gold to each other? No, he did in fact do that, and they did in fact then break their in-game CF to prove he was incorrect.

    Is it opinion that after that some of Sancs provs stole from havoc? Nope, that's not opinion either, given that havoc complained about them doing it.

    Maybe if my post was espousing any sort of opinions as opposed to factual statements about past events you might have a point.

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    I notice you skipped over responding to how AMA was involved in drama pretty much every single age they existed, does this not fit your 'only ABS causes problems consistently' narrative or something?

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    As for politics, I just tell myself that fox is just a Colbert Report network that is way more dedicated to staying in character than he was.

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    How do you present things as fact when you dont have a god damn clue Meep? As you admitted yourself, you only been reading the forums you were not part of any of it. Hence it will be just opinions cause you dont have any way to confirm any of your teories as "fact" :)


    When did I claim "Only Absalom causes consistently" Lack of mentions doesnt nobody else caused problems or more problems than Absalom. Just Absalom did cause problems. Really grasping after straws now bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protector View Post
    You're wrong. The only thing BB (me) did prior to ED and FS even exchanging hits was trying to mediate a war agreement between both parties. When no agreement was made, I let it be.

    Just did.

    I think (yes think because I wasn't present for the convo nor did I read logs) flogger just offered to repair the damage rather than letting it get uncontrollably out of hand.

    Your timing is wrong. I talked to Parth briefly more than 24 hours before FS left EOWCF. I mentioned "FS would be happy with any day extra they get", Parth's counter offer was the 2 days and a bit in exchange for a button.
    As I wrote earlier, them giving you a button wouldn't change their position at all given your setup works best when getting a button and feasting with the human bonus in war. You'd just pummel their 8 undeads down before they even return and war is over before it even starts.

    Why is it relevant where their honor came from? They had 6 orso provinces razekilled and their science reset. I think the 2 even each other out.

    Who from BB justified it?!
    Not sure how much of the above you'd already spoken to Parth about, I did try to be clear that I didn't know the exact timings of a lot of things (I was away most of the weekend as well), but it gives what I would consider a reasonable overview of the timeline to people not involved (also tried to remain unbiased).

    I'm not trying to paint it as ED offering FS a 100% even fight, but rather to show that it wasn't just a case of ED being hell bent on killing FS at any costs. ED offered FS some time to war and prep, they could have taken it and lost (if they thought they would) then moved on, but they refused to war and then refused any CF offers, something they spent weeks complaining at ED for doing.

    Them having a terrible setup isn't really an excuse for anything, they made their choices at the start of the age, it's like me picking a 25 T/M KD then crying foul when someone tries to make terms which doesn't include a long hostile.

    I'd say their honour is relevant, what would they have lost if they wared ED and had to WD? Land and honour. What would they have lost if they had a 1, 2, 3 week hostile vs. ED? Land and honour, probably a lot of T/M power and maybe sci. What was one of the key points in EDs CF offers which were declined as being unreasonable? FS giving ED honour. The fairly reasonable conclusion is that FS didn't want to giveup any free honour to ED, yet are more than happy to harvest it in an AWAR where the other KD doesn't fight back.

    The key point I'm trying to convey is that even after having provs raze killed and reset they were still #1 honour KD, gives an insight of how much they farmed from that war and it's not like they had to grind out (x) hard wars to get to #1 so ED were trying to rob them of some hard work. Maybe someone knows just how much they gained from the war, it seemed like ~10k acres (?) but I don't know the honour.

    As for who in BB, that should probably be directed towards your own council to find out who authed it or towards your own allies who were making the claims about BB council.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protector View Post

    Your timing is wrong. I talked to Parth briefly more than 24 hours before FS left EOWCF. I mentioned "FS would be happy with any day extra they get", Parth's counter offer was the 2 days and a bit in exchange for a button.
    As I wrote earlier, them giving you a button wouldn't change their position at all given your setup works best when getting a button and feasting with the human bonus in war. You'd just pummel their 8 undeads down before they even return and war is over before it even starts.
    Just want to point out that nowhere in the offer we sent to FS did we require them to have troops out when they gave button (with the obvious exception of the one hit that brought it to hostile). They were free to make the seven first hits whenever they pleased during that uto day. The only requirement was that they would give button 2 hours before day change, how they went about doing that was up to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protector View Post
    Who from BB justified it?!
    I'm wondering the same thing. Apparently, he didnt just justify it, he suggested it. How is that very different from the stuff you organized a whole gangbang on Emeriti for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by makeo View Post
    I'm glad I have Korp on ignore and wonder if there is a way to block posts that respond to him.
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