sages wouldn't have so much sci if you didn't cf each other with overly generous terms. *shrug*
mystic wpa is kinda weak tho, but it is usually stronger in kingdoms that can't benefit from luxury cfs. still, mystic is there for the spellbook and other perks like double guilds, not to have an automatic lock on wpa.
Sage vs mystic is simple. In a warring kingdom mystic is boss due to having ms and the ability to pump wizards at a faster rate. Now if you don't war often sage is boss. You have time to science and wizard pump. But if you want to fit 6-8 wars a age. Sage is simply to slow to be a tms period compared to a mystic.
sage is a t/m personality, that got so good that core races can use it too. but it's primarily a t/m personality, especially when faery had tog naturally.
Sage is fine for the majority of the server.Originally Posted by Sheister
Its the top tier agreeing to let each other's sage pump with impunity that is the issue.
most sages in the game do not have that luxury.
I mean. Tbh 25% sci bonus AND 2x libs is probably a buff to what they already have...
And yes, sage CAN fun higher wpa...but the point I'm making is they don't have the arsenal to turn the tide of war that a mystic has.
MS is so good. +1 mana is so good. +200 wizards and 2x guilds should allow mystics a HUGE head start in the early age. Yes those last two bonuses don't help much for the end of the age...but that's how it should be. Sage takes time to get there.
Ahh. *shines nails on sleeves
That was me ;)
I don't think you're understanding the difference...
Yes. Eoa sage beats mystic in terms of wpa because of your very long posts explaining this.
What I'm not sure you're getting is that mystic is a necessity for WARRING kds. I'm relatively new still and I'm confident that most kds dedicated to warring (not 1-3 wars but like 4+ wars in the age), will choose mystic over sage.
Also, you'll see mystics w lower wpa due to AW. Mystic is typically target #1 for AW and massacre.
A whoring kd SHOULD run more sages than mystic. It's THE choice, as you say. It will be incredible for the late age. A warring kd SHOULD run mystics because they need that early boost, they need the ops, they need yo 2x guilds to retrain wiz after mass and aw from wars, and they need the extra mana.
It is mind set, a Sage wants to pump science while Mystics isnt in a pump mind set, then add in with the proper science investment in the right order and timing.
I have the highest science in my kingdoms for the past three ages...... and sages had their 50% bonus last age when I was playing a Mystic and still had a higher bonus than the sages in my kingdom.....
Sages are fine as they are, they are generalists so they can do a little of everything without special abilities/spells/ops of the other personalities.
Yes. Thank you. What noobium said.
Yes thank you. What handofthrawn said.
Undead seems a little boring this age. What if we gave them mages fury or fanaticism. Something to change them up alittle.
Give them animate dead.
Give Warhero +50% war science.
Sage is fine.
Only if you're willing to run more than 20% of them all the time.
"Humans: Combined with Warrior that's +40% OME... You can't be serious"
ya cmon that is kind of silly, what were you thinking? No province can defend against that... let me remind you that is RAW! have you forgotten about training grounds and science? Add another 40%
"Elf Needs Buff"
you guys pretty much took everything away. Its like an empty shell race now, like somebody else said
it doesnt really have a role now, its a like the basis of all races with no benefits or disadvantages
"Sigh...ok, I will have to chime in with Mage's Fury/Invisibility.
Mage's Fury should stay with Elf. Invisibility should stay with Halfling"
this is a no brainer
To Be Continued, have yet to read all of thread
Last edited by alexsiki; 26-08-2015 at 05:24.
Every single dwarf sage on the server can rebuild schools at any moment they feel like it and pump crazy sage science with their crazy sage income bonuses. The entire server can do it.
Stop talking about things you don't understand fully.
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