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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
    You're missing my point. I'm not wondering why they are doing it. Obviously petty revenge plays a part.

    I'm asking why you think they should stop, given that you gave them the power to do this to you.
    every growth kd has the power to the exact thing to any war kd, yet none of them do it.. actually, war kds dont do it to each other neither when they have the power.. there must be a reason huh?

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    Sampuan,

    I explained my thoughts on this precisely. Please stop stating things contrary to the unambiguous statement of what is intended. You thought of the conflict only in terms of the war and then everyone going their separate ways. Was I ambiguous when I stated that I would get back whatever I wanted if you dragged the war? Call it petty if you must, but I think we should get back our science and so on so that we are not unduly injured by your choices. This is how we are going about it instead of sitting and pumping for weeks on end. We have more fun this way, just as you had more fun by dragging the war. Look at it this way, once we have stripped you out, you will be a more appealing war target and can get wars more easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    Sampuan,

    I explained my thoughts on this precisely. Please stop stating things contrary to the unambiguous statement of what is intended. You thought of the conflict only in terms of the war and then everyone going their separate ways. Was I ambiguous when I stated that I would get back whatever I wanted if you dragged the war? Call it petty if you must, but I think we should get back our science and so on so that we are not unduly injured by your choices. This is how we are going about it instead of sitting and pumping for weeks on end. We have more fun this way, just as you had more fun by dragging the war. Look at it this way, once we have stripped you out, you will be a more appealing war target and can get wars more easily.

    :D
    go back a few posts, and read my analysis on your 'genius' science farming techniques..

    also, we didnt 'drag' the war, we won it and your enormous ego is broken into a thousand pieces, sad but true..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN View Post
    every growth kd has the power to the exact thing to any war kd, yet none of them do it.. actually, war kds dont do it to each other neither when they have the power.. there must be a reason huh?
    Because growth kingdoms have an actual target for the age and getting stuck in this kind of conflict is only bad for them?

    We have seen lots of growth kingdoms drop out of the crown race and proceed to seek revenge. Pew Pew and Simians, then Simians and Pew Pew, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
    Because growth kingdoms have an actual target for the age and getting stuck in this kind of conflict is only bad for them?

    We have seen lots of growth kingdoms drop out of the crown race and proceed to seek revenge. Pew Pew and Simians, then Simians and Pew Pew, for instance.
    revenge is often sought after some kind of ****play, or a long-standing grudge, or a long-term hostility - not because a kd has beaten you in war..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiedema View Post
    If every kingdom that left war from a position of strength did this to their opposing kingdom, that would definitely not be healthy for the game.
    If this happened more often when the kingdom in position of strength were the one who withdrew, it would most likely be very healthy for the game. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN View Post
    revenge is often sought after some kind of ****play, or a long-standing grudge, or a long-term hostility - not because a kd has beaten you in war..
    You're assuming that this is revenge on their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorash View Post
    Give it a stop, this is embarrassing.

    'They have 4 ww of science and lots of honor.'

    That is why I got 4x bounced on elites in.
    You always leave elites home when in hostile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
    You have a strategy that's great for wars, not so great outside wars. Ergo you'd like to play this game purely within the boundaries of those wars.

    The game doesn't exist purely within those boundaries. Even if Pyro are doing it with an ulterior motive, they are still doing it because you gave them 20k freeaking acres to do it with.
    Rofl qft. Epic comeback win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    Sampuan,

    I explained my thoughts on this precisely. Please stop stating things contrary to the unambiguous statement of what is intended. You thought of the conflict only in terms of the war and then everyone going their separate ways. Was I ambiguous when I stated that I would get back whatever I wanted if you dragged the war? Call it petty if you must, but I think we should get back our science and so on so that we are not unduly injured by your choices. This is how we are going about it instead of sitting and pumping for weeks on end. We have more fun this way, just as you had more fun by dragging the war. Look at it this way, once we have stripped you out, you will be a more appealing war target and can get wars more easily.

    :D
    Qft, they should release their dspecs, bounce attack their elites and be on land def to get this over with asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN View Post
    revenge is often sought after some kind of ****play, or a long-standing grudge, or a long-term hostility - not because a kd has beaten you in war..
    What you percieve as revenge everyone with a brain percieves as just doin a bit of farming. If you didnt want to get farmed you should have closed relations. You are like literally the worst monarch.

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    Instead of releasing your defense you keep crying and whining on the forums. Its hilarious how Nesta hasn't posted here once and you continually publicly insult him just so you can make yourself feel better over my comments. Guess what all your whining in here and insulting of Nesta in here is doing you no favors. The only way you are going to close this out is by talking to the person you insult over and over and over. Pathetic.

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    No, he is not the worst monarch. Lets call it like it is.

    Nesta operated under a paradigm in which people do not sacrifice their core leaving their TM's exposed. That left him blind to what FS was doing and the crew was too slow to react to adjust to a long drawn out war.

    Sampuan is operating under the paradigm where at war end, everything is settled. That left him blind to the fact that he has undefended resources that people would want to take. Whether they do it in the most efficient means/hit or in the most efficient means in terms of crippling them for easy feeding is beside the real problem that he has.

    When interpreting this, Sampuan views this as, our hits are inefficient because we did not feed in a NW efficiency order. Just as Nesta did not see FS as playing for anything other than to drag for 50% win because he did not see they were going for a different mid-term war efficiency and were willing to sacrifice long-term power to achieve it.

    Both are myopic.
    "having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
    "while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date

    The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.

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    Okay we get it, you dont care about oow, then why do you keep coming to this thread? Just get farmed like a noob, nobody cares, nobody is going to help you, nobody likes you. Honestly thanks for letting us know you dont care about being a rag doll, makes us sleep better at night when we oversend offense and leaving no defense home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azsxdcfv View Post
    You're assuming that this is revenge on their part.
    it is. sheister confirmed a long grudge for 'dragging the war'. which is rather moot because it apparently wasnt a drag. Pyro couldn't outplay FS so they opted to go this route. its pathetic that a kd emerging from the (superior?) whoring tier needed full CF and 20k+ acres to subdue their grudge.

    and then there's that loudmouth who remained quiet when Pyro WD'd and does a multi post when they're in an advantageous position to farm. there's also that guy who was against bottom feeding / farming one age, and does exactly that the next, claiming obedience to his KD.

    RICH!

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