Age of Tax

[flogger]

Game Date April 23 of YR6
Real Date Sat, 4 Jun at 16:53 GMT+00:00
Sender Baron Fire Eater the Rogue of Magical Safety Dragon (FS)
Recipient The Conniving King Subcomandante Insurgente Marco of -Doctor Doom- (Emeriti)
Subject Re:Nubzter Binar
We going to need about a week after this war end so 10 days or so from now?
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Anyway 10 days or not you would have 10 days as well, what are you so afraid of, I thought your setup was vastly superior?

But why would they give 10 days? They can be talked into giving enough time to give enough gold for the other kd to not be vultured, but part of the kd that wants the #1 kd to give them a break is not asking for something unreasonable or something that only favors one side. Wizards/science, etc. can be overcome assuming you have time to get the gold and you outplay them, so the smaller kd should just aim for enough time to get the gold, and usually you can talk the #1 kd into that.

If their setup is vastly superior, they'd give the 10 days. But in this case theirs isn't, so they won't give that, so gotta aim for something you can get. Emeriti just saw undead banks win pretty big vs human banks, and FS ended with some 16k acre banks which were 50% larger than their biggest, emeriti wasn't gonna give them 10 days, I wouldn't if I were emeriti either. I think if I'm emeriti I give them the time to get the gold needed, though. Everyone knows this 3 day war ending donk thing bishop came up is ridiculous, so they'd give a day or two so the kd could pump more fully.

[MyNameIsMatija]

He said their setup is superior and I'm here complaining there should be more even wars at the top. What they did is perfectly legitimate in the current system though, does it make the game more fun, you be the judge of that.

[home.alone]

Game Date April 23 of YR6
Real Date Sat, 4 Jun at 16:53 GMT+00:00
Sender Baron Fire Eater the Rogue of Magical Safety Dragon (FS)
Recipient The Conniving King Subcomandante Insurgente Marco of -Doctor Doom- (Emeriti)
Subject Re:Nubzter Binar
We going to need about a week after this war end so 10 days or so from now?
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Anyway 10 days or not you would have 10 days as well, what are you so afraid of, I thought your setup was vastly superior?

The last time Emeriti asked something co-related to the number 10, they got gbed for it!

[MyNameIsMatija]

The last time Emeriti asked something co-related to the number 10, they got gbed for it!

Thank you for your valuable input related to the topic at hand.

[flogger]

He said their setup is superior and I'm here complaining there should be more even wars at the top. What they did is perfectly legitimate in the current system though, does it make the game more fun, you be the judge of that.

Not all wars in the top should be 50/50. If the kd coming up from behind has a CF expiring they need to give something to the kd that's #1. It can be negotiated that that something is being behind in wizards or science or something, but just asking the #1 kd to give the #2 2 weeks to prep when the #2 kd's CF expired is just silly. they can get some concessions from the #1 kd (hey just give me a day or two to get more gold so we're more on even footing) but expecting the #1 kd to just cede it's dominant position is silly. The #2 kd could have gotten a longer CF or spaced their CFs out longer so they had the 10 days they wanted. Everyone starts at 400 acres.

[home.alone]

He said their setup is superior and I'm here complaining there should be more even wars at the top. What they did is perfectly legitimate in the current system though, does it make the game more fun, you be the judge of that.

I guess you have reading and comprehension problems!

There is a BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG difference between Superior setup and Vastly Superior setup!

[LoRD_SaMPuaN]

our official request during diplo session was 4 days extra for a guaranteed war, which was declined by emeriti - dont spew bs please..

[MyNameIsMatija]

Not all wars in the top should be 50/50. If the kd coming up from behind has a CF expiring they need to give something to the kd that's #1. It can be negotiated that that something is being behind in wizards or science or something, but just asking the #1 kd to give the #2 2 weeks to prep when the #2 kd's CF expired is just silly. they can get some concessions from the #1 kd (hey just give me a day or two to get more gold so we're more on even footing) but expecting the #1 kd to just cede it's dominant position is silly. The #2 kd could have gotten a longer CF or spaced their CFs out longer so they had the 10 days they wanted. Everyone starts at 400 acres.

I agree but they claimed the main reason they win the age is their superior setup (if you are so sure of this why not prove it in a somewhat even war - you would obviously still have the positional advantage gained from what your setup does best), my claim is that this setup is only superior because of the head start it ensures, not because it is the greatest combo known to man late age and if the age wasn't about screwing anyone that isn't Emeriti the age might have been a bit more interesting nearing its end.

[home.alone]

Not all wars in the top should be 50/50. If the kd coming up from behind has a CF expiring they need to give something to the kd that's #1. It can be negotiated that that something is being behind in wizards or science or something, but just asking the #1 kd to give the #2 2 weeks to prep when the #2 kd's CF expired is just silly. they can get some concessions from the #1 kd (hey just give me a day or two to get more gold so we're more on even footing) but expecting the #1 kd to just cede it's dominant position is silly. The #2 kd could have gotten a longer CF or spaced their CFs out longer so they had the 10 days they wanted. Everyone starts at 400 acres.

So I assume you are not drunk right now, since you are speaking sense!


Also I hope that you have gotten over your drinking problem. Its bad, trust me (Also that was an honest attempt to think good about you and not troll you)

[home.alone]

our official request during diplo session was 4 days extra for a guaranteed war, which was declined by emeriti - dont spew bs please..

From what I remembered Emeriti also came out with a clown request of week 10 cf 3 ages back! But you guys didnt even give them a chance to make an 'official' request to tone down to week 3 or 4 CF.

A leader who is full of bull **** asking not to spread Bull ****! Irony at its best :D

[MyNameIsMatija]

our official request during diplo session was 4 days extra for a guaranteed war, which was declined by emeriti - dont spew bs please..

I just want to congratulate you and your KD on a well played age here, coming this close to challenging the #1 spot against an established whoring KD in what seems to be your first age whoring is a really nice achievement in my book.

[protector]

Since it is impossible to beat a competent kingdom that's larger than you, the smaller kingdom has the choice to give free acres for a ceasefire in the hope of getting the opportunity to catch up later, or fighting and basically being knocked out.

Not all uphill battles are unwinnable. We've fought uphill battles before and won them, I've seen others do the same. Obviously there are also fights one cannot win, but within limits, it's possible to fight uphill battles.

Secondly, there's also choice. Do you prefer to have a war vs a contender on as even as possible ground (ie give them x days to prepare war) or do you rather tax them? I'd imagine the fight is more interesting (for both kingdoms & for the community) but it does risk losing your lead. Up to you if a crown is worth more than the interesting fight.

[Dean21]

Emeriti knows they would get stomped by FS even if they gave FS 4 days after eowcf being 20k acres larger so they can't afford it. It gives them crown yes, but how proud of your achievements can you be of winning a crown by going 0/0 and just taxing KDs? You could at least have some courage and agree to war in 4 days as Lord_Sampuan with having those 20k acres advantage. Advantage on econ side was probably huge cos FS got out of war and Emeriti has been pumping Sci whole age and yet you are afraid of warring 20k smaller kd in arranged war

[home.alone]

emeriti knows they would get stomped by fs even if they gave fs 4 days after eowcf being 20k acres larger so they can't afford it. It gives them crown yes, but how proud of your achievements can you be of winning a crown by going 0/0 and just taxing kds? You could at least have some courage and agree to war in 4 days as lord_sampuan with having those 20k acres advantage. Advantage on econ side was probably huge cos fs got out of war and emeriti has been pumping sci whole age and yet you are afraid of warring 20k smaller kd in arranged war

lol

[octobrev]

Congratulations SaMPuaN! I too am impressed by your ability to give land for CFs. You were so close to almost being able to fight the #1 KD that my faith in the playerbase has been completely restored. I can't wait to see what you'll bring to the table next round.