Quote Originally Posted by Proteus View Post
If you recall earlier in the age FS had a cf expiring with Emeriti year 3 and had the option to war Emeriti then but proactively reached out and offered land in exchange for a cf extension. Both kingdoms were in growth / pump mode at the time, Emeriti was slightly bigger but not a lopsided fight. Everyone starts at 0 acres and that early on no one had significant advantages.

Really not Emeriti's fault that FS made the election to go and war Pandas right when FS and Emeriti cf expired yr6 - FS knew cf would expire and notice could be given and also knew how eow protection works and how long recovery takes. It was a strategic election on their part to do what they did. You can't really go and gain nearly 30k acres from Pandas and then just count on the generosity on others to let you go and pump that land up while everyone does nothing. Better move would have been to work out an extension with Emeriti prior to the conflict with Pandas and then FS would have time to pump after. It's pretty common to stagger Cfs so you can fight others and not worry about your competitors fighting you directly after.

@flogger - I do not really understand the concept of giving a kingdom more time after war. The only time I have seen it work is when a much weaker kingdom grows and to lure them in / entice them a superior kingdom gives them plenty time to pump knowing full well war would probably win the age for them and harvesting those acres in war is much better for taking a little bit of acres for cf. personally I have never been given time to pump after winning a war, the kingdoms sitting OOW would just use that time to pump and vulture us.

I remember specifically when AMA and BB were allied and Rage had picked a sage setup and warred BB (a war that Bb had sought out) and Rage ended up winning after 4 days or something along those lines. Immediately after AMA who had been sitting oow the whole time and building unbreakable cows had given Rage notice with the intent of either vukturing or asking for 10k acres to extend cf (this was y4 so 10k acres is massive at that time). I also remember a few ages later AMA warring Pewpew and RBL making massive cows oow and vulturing AMA right after instead of giving them prep time. Direct competitors do not really give themselves extra time. It's really a cat and mouse concept when a strong unbeatable kingdom gives a weak kingdom extra time in exchange for the promise of war knowing full well it will be a guaranteed farm out. It's really difficult for me to be asked for free stuff when no one has ever given any of the kingdoms I was in time to pump after winning a war, they all went in for the kill.
im pretty content with the decisions we made so far, i would pretty much took the same path given the same circumstances.. it took a whole dealbreak that you overlooked, and a 2v1 farm into war for your superior setup and whoring experience to hold us at bay and we are still your closest competitor.. instead of vulturing a kd oow that was gbed by you and dealbreakers, we gave the very same kd a chance for a fair war at the cost of compromising our standing against you - a decision that i am confident in, a decision that i would do the same again.. as pointed out on our talk with you, different goals, different mindsets..