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    Quote Originally Posted by Band of Horses View Post
    Yeah, an apology is an extreme demand...
    An apology would be a simple solution only if it is indisputably clear where the fault lies.

    As I have said before, we will be happy to write up an apology if RoO is willing to do the same.

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    ROFL! You think it is ambiguous who started this?

    LOL!

    Your province hits me. I wrote a meanie pants message. She boo hoo hoo "but I am pregnant" boo hoo's. Abi 3x razes me. I retal in the only way open to me. You RK me. I retalliate again. You lie low then Start Razing into us all the while taunting me that you are all buddies with Octo and Korp and can ensure they won't help me (aka, you lie your pants off so that you just vaporize them, no chance of them being on fire). Then you cry that *I* was bullying you!

    LOL!! It is almost enough to make a youtube comedy vid out of it. ahahahahahahahahaha.

    Jesus, if not for the fact that you type, I would wonder if there was anything north of your medulla oblongata. Check yourself for autonomic functions..... just be safe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Legba View Post
    An apology would be a simple solution only if it is indisputably clear where the fault lies.

    As I have said before, we will be happy to write up an apology if RoO is willing to do the same.
    If you're sorry you don't need the other person to agree to apologize in order to say it.

    When they first offered you the out via apology, there was nothing for them to apologize for. If they were to accept it now, they would need to apologize to the server for not disbanding you.

    But I digress, an apology isn't an EXTREME DEMAND. Fact.
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    Some would say that the one who posed a probable threat is the one who initiated the aggression. In the court of law, a threat is considered assault, one in which is punishable by the law. I understand that this is an online community where different sets of rule apply but one fact remains clear, that you posed a threat to the well-being of our kingdom and gave us a reason to act upon it. This is Utopia Diplomacy 101 - Don't give a kingdom with the upperhand a reason to justify their aggression on you. Had you simply retaliated the hit, we may have moved on. Had you simply sent a message reprimanding the act (as a veteran to a noob) in good faith, we may have taken it lightly. But when you blackmail us into forcing a CF with a threat to raze into our future wars, you are at the mercy of the kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Legba View Post
    Some would say that the one who posed a probable threat is the one who initiated the aggression.
    Might almost be convincing if you hadn't attacked us into our hostile before we uttered any threat of reprisal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Legba View Post
    I understand that this is an online community where different sets of rule apply but one fact remains clear, that you posed a threat to the well-being of our kingdom and gave us a reason to act upon it.
    Don't **** play if you can't take the heat that comes with it.

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    This is Utopia Diplomacy 101 - Don't give a kingdom with the upperhand a reason to justify their aggression on you.
    I sincerely hope you don't believe you've got the upper hand on us here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Legba View Post
    Had you simply retaliated the hit, we may have moved on. Had you simply sent a message reprimanding the act (as a veteran to a noob) in good faith, we may have taken it lightly. But when you blackmail us into forcing a CF with a threat to raze into our future wars, you are at the mercy of the kingdom.
    You hit Sheister first, and then over-retal'd him. Which is fine. You just hit the wrong person. He hasn't got any obligation to baby and coddle you. TBH I don't care about any of the events prior to his arrival in our kingdom. But you really should have caught on after war #2 that Sheister was not a person you could deal with (as in, a kingdom as **** at Utopia & diplomacy as yours is).

    It's been over a month and I'm still waiting to hear what the **** you idiots thought you might accomplish by razing him again when he'd joined us.

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    what is this madness?

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    Actually no Legaba, assualt is variously defined depending on jurisdiction, but I will avoid your tangent which is as off-point as it is inaccurate.

    To argue that I posed a threat belies the statement of your own monarch who told me that I posed no threat at all to your kingdom and needed to be silenced to learn my place. Your monarch did not view me as a threat at all. Nice try though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillz View Post
    Might almost be convincing if you hadn't attacked us into our hostile before we uttered any threat of reprisal.
    Check with your leadership. We took action on your kd only after your monarch/steward came forward with the same threat.



    Don't **** play if you can't take the heat that comes with it.
    There was no **** play nor there was any heat.



    I sincerely hope you don't believe you've got the upper hand on us here.
    The "upper-hand" was with regards to sheister's old kd vs ours. But it makes no difference as to whom we are referencing.


    You hit Sheister first, and then over-retal'd him. Which is fine. You just hit the wrong person. He hasn't got any obligation to baby and coddle you. TBH I don't care about any of the events prior to his arrival in our kingdom. But you really should have caught on after war #2 that Sheister was not a person you could deal with (as in, a kingdom as **** at Utopia & diplomacy as yours is).

    It's been over a month and I'm still waiting to hear what the **** you idiots thought you might accomplish by razing him again when he'd joined us.
    we "over-retal'ed" him once he razed into our wars 10x times on our first war. If that's his way of retaliation, fine. But don't think we'll eat all that up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    Actually no Legaba, assualt is variously defined depending on jurisdiction, but I will avoid your tangent which is as off-point as it is inaccurate.
    My definition is based on Common Law, which is the basis of the law for every English speaking country in the world. The treatment of the legal consequence may vary but there is a consensus with regards to its definition.

    To argue that I posed a threat belies the statement of your own monarch who told me that I posed no threat at all to your kingdom and needed to be silenced to learn my place. Your monarch did not view me as a threat at all. Nice try though.
    Need source on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Legba View Post
    Check with your leadership. We took action on your kd only after your monarch/steward came forward with the same threat.

    There was no **** play nor there was any heat.

    The "upper-hand" was with regards to sheister's old kd vs ours. But it makes no difference as to whom we are referencing.

    we "over-retal'ed" him once he razed into our wars 10x times on our first war. If that's his way of retaliation, fine. But don't think we'll eat all that up.
    1) you hit our kd before we made any promise or threat to raze into your wars.

    2) hitting a kd less than half your size into an active hostile is certainly qualifiable as **** play

    3) vs. Sheister previously you were not fighting his kingdom. He still owned you. Now you're fighting us. We've already razed into one of your wars despite literally weeks of effort on your part.

    You've never had the upper hand since this began with sheister and you don't have it now.

    4)You hit him disproportionately before he uttered any threats iirc.

    You all suffer from a seriously flawed collective memory, even when events have been laid out chronologically more then once. And you are all serial liars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillz View Post
    1) you hit our kd before we made any promise or threat to raze into your wars.

    2) hitting a kd less than half your size into an active hostile is certainly qualifiable as **** play

    3) vs. Sheister previously you were not fighting his kingdom. He still owned you. Now you're fighting us. We've already razed into one of your wars despite literally weeks of effort on your part.

    You've never had the upper hand since this began with sheister and you don't have it now.

    4)You hit him disproportionately before he uttered any threats iirc.

    You all suffer from a seriously flawed collective memory, even when events have been laid out chronologically more then once. And you are all serial liars.

    1) Nope

    2) cry me a river.

    3) lol

    4) it's called punitive damages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Legba View Post
    1) Nope

    2) cry me a river.

    3) lol

    4) it's called punitive damages.
    1) sheister was in our kingdom. You hit him. You hit our kingdom. Utopia is not an individually based game.

    2) who is crying? It's **** play. Accept it.

    3) if laughter helps you cope with your impending demise, so be it.

    4) that's the term I'll use when describing the disbanding of DD. We will raze us our summary worth, and your kd disbanding will be punitive damages.

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    ROFL

    Legba, common law is not law except in the absence of statute and only by adoption of the courts of the jurisdiction in which the case is pled. Please, hush before you look even more foolish.
    "having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
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    The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pillz View Post
    1) sheister was in our kingdom. You hit him. You hit our kingdom. Utopia is not an individually based game.

    2) who is crying? It's **** play. Accept it.

    3) if laughter helps you cope with your impending demise, so be it.

    4) that's the term I'll use when describing the disbanding of DD. We will raze us our summary worth, and your kd disbanding will be punitive damages.
    1) That's right. Utopia is not an individually based game. So when sheister did us wrong, your entire kingdom did us wrong whether or not you hit us, which is enough reason to raze you. So why are you keeping bringing up your initial hostile with the Strippers?

    2) Nope

    3) Nope

    4) OK


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    ROFL

    Legba, common law is not law except in the absence of statute and only by adoption of the courts of the jurisdiction in which the case is pled. Please, hush before you look even more foolish.
    So tell me, which jurisdiction does not consider a threat as an assault?

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