Republic of Octobrev - Double Hostile w/ Strippers & ghetto

[Sheister]

Abi?

I don't get WTF you are talking about quoting Korp and talking to me.....

[Papa Legba]

What the game doesn't need: KDs that believe their conflicts are sacred but should be allowed to hit out when convenient. KDs that when are caught with their hand in the cookie jar accuse the cookie owner of being a cookie thief too. A continued pattern of childishness from this ghetto layered with hypocrisy... it needs to die

Why do you act like people never hit in/out of hostile? Those things happen all the time, it doesn't even make the forum. We weren't tagged during the hostile, others were free to hit us and we were free to hit out.

Move on. Things are settled between DD and Emeriti. No idea why ghettos are acting like police around here.

[Korp]

Why do you act like people never hit in/out of hostile? Those things happen all the time, it doesn't even make the forum. We weren't tagged during the hostile, others were free to hit us and we were free to hit out.

Move on. Things are settled between DD and Emeriti. No idea why ghettos are acting like police around here.

This is hilarious consider the approach DD had over a sent message. :) But I understand, its not a ghetto that sent you a messages its the number one kingdom that you messed with this time obviously you arent as cocky as you were against Sheister. You are just glad you got away as easy as you did.

[Papa Legba]

This is hilarious consider the approach DD had over a sent message. :) But I understand, its not a ghetto that sent you a messages its the number one kingdom that you messed with this time obviously you arent as cocky as you were against Sheister. You are just glad you got away as easy as you did.

Emeriti didn't start the message with ad hominem. Emeriti demanded explanation and listened. Sheister belittled our province and blackmailed. Tone matters in diplomacy, and this is something that even a crown kingdom understands despite their position in the game.

[Korp]

Emeriti didn't start the message with ad hominem. Emeriti demanded explanation and listened. Sheister belittled our province and blackmailed. Tone matters in diplomacy, and this is something that even a crown kingdom understands despite their position in the game.

But they are tons of those messages in Utopia every day shouldnt matter to bunch grown ups like DD? And lol, blackmailed? lol.

[Band of Horses]

Why do you act like people never hit in/out of hostile? Those things happen all the time, it doesn't even make the forum. We weren't tagged during the hostile, others were free to hit us and we were free to hit out.

Move on. Things are settled between DD and Emeriti. No idea why ghettos are acting like police around here.

So you'd be okay with a kingdom hitting you and running to war to avoid retribution? You'd be okay with your opponent in a war getting funding from outside kd? You'd be okay with a smaller ghetto sullying your name in public after you were generous to them in private, accusing you of the crimes you were admittedly guilty of?

Emeriti didn't start the message with ad hominem. Emeriti demanded explanation and listened. Sheister belittled our province and blackmailed. Tone matters in diplomacy, and this is something that even a crown kingdom understands despite their position in the game.

You're looking for extortion not blackmail. Your tone was obviously the different one here since you were looking up not down. Feel free to post the dialogue

[Papa Legba]

So you'd be okay with a kingdom hitting you and running to war to avoid retribution?

First of all, we expected retribution. You notice how we didn't cause a havoc for the oow retribution razes from Emeriti?

You'd be okay with your opponent in a war getting funding from outside kd?

If those two kd cooperated together, then no. Is that what happened here?

You'd be okay with a smaller ghetto sullying your name in public after you were generous to them in private, accusing you of the crimes you were admittedly guilty of?

Yeah, that is exactly what happened in this thread :rolleyes:

You're looking for extortion not blackmail. Your tone was obviously the different one here since you were looking up not down. Feel free to post the dialogue

The inbox has been cleared, I have no record of my dialogue with sheister or Bishop, but let them attest to how respectful I was on our initial "confrontation".

[Sheister]

huh? Your KD was douchy from the start. What are you fishing for here?

[Band of Horses]

First of all, we expected retribution. You notice how we didn't cause a havoc for the oow retribution razes from Emeriti?



If those two kd cooperated together, then no. Is that what happened here?



Yeah, that is exactly what happened in this thread :rolleyes:




The inbox has been cleared, I have no record of my dialogue with sheister or Bishop, but let them attest to how respectful I was on our initial "confrontation".

You expected retribution, so you knew it was chit play?

What level of cooperation is okay for you? Let's say your enemy took 100 million from Emeriti before declare, if Emeriti didn't do anything until after your war finished is that okay? How much retribution is enough for you to be okay with your enemy doing this to you? Where is equilibrium?

Yes, it is. Your people came in here and said oh like Emeriti has never hit out of hostile to fund their war. After they agreed not to turn you all green that's some bull chit.

Share your dialogue with Emeriti, we've seen yours with RoO. It'd be interesting to see how different you act when the kd is bigger not smaller.

[Papa Legba]

You expected retribution, so you knew it was chit play?

...no? We plundered a crown kd, so we expected hits in return. Simple as that. It's not an acknowledgment of chit play.

What level of cooperation is okay for you? Let's say your enemy took 100 million from Emeriti before declare, if Emeriti didn't do anything until after your war finished is that okay? How much retribution is enough for you to be okay with your enemy doing this to you? Where is equilibrium?

We took a risk by plundering Emeriti right before the war, considering that we already have RoO on our ass on top of the main war. Emeriti razed into our war twice as retribution. No previous arrangements were made between Emeriti and DD, and even Emeriti acknowledges that nothing we did was particularly wrong. Why don't you talk to Binar directly if he is cooperating with DD in any sense.

Yes, it is. Your people came in here and said oh like Emeriti has never hit out of hostile to fund their war. After they agreed not to turn you all green that's some bull chit.

Highly doubt that Binar took any offense to that post. kestrel's post wasn't intended to tarnish Emeriti's reputation. If that's all you got from her post, I can't help you.

Share your dialogue with Emeriti, we've seen yours with RoO. It'd be interesting to see how different you act when the kd is bigger not smaller.

I will post these instead -

sheister's original PM:

"I will freaking quad raze you if you don't CF my my Kingdom to Year 5 with a 24 hr notice. That is punishment for your province being a moron for trying to abduct against a sage in early age. Of course she gets no scientists! 50% abduct protection! Get a CLUE! So, accept those terms, or anticipate that I will make your lives a living hell."

^Starts with a threat, does not want to hear explanation, pointless name-calling, zero attempt at diplomatic talk.


Emeriti's PM:

"No idea why your monarch decided to plunder us from war, but we will start razing now and we wont stop until we get some sort of explanation that makes sense"

^No name-calling, no childish attitude, open to explanation and aims for diplomatic solution to this.


Compare the two and think very hard why we responded differently to each.

[Sheister]

Both look fine to me. I guess I have a thicker skin.....

When did the internet become this kinder gentler world? So sad....

Tigress was a moron. abduct attack on a sage in Yr 2.....simply moronic. Even now it makes me laugh thinking how dumb that was.

[Band of Horses]

...no? We plundered a crown kd, so we expected hits in return. Simple as that. It's not an acknowledgment of chit play.



We took a risk by plundering Emeriti right before the war, considering that we already have RoO on our ass on top of the main war. Emeriti razed into our war twice as retribution. No previous arrangements were made between Emeriti and DD, and even Emeriti acknowledges that nothing we did was particularly wrong. Why don't you talk to Binar directly if he is cooperating with DD in any sense.



Highly doubt that Binar took any offense to that post. kestrel's post wasn't intended to tarnish Emeriti's reputation. If that's all you got from her post, I can't help you.



I will post these instead -

sheister's original PM:

"I will freaking quad raze you if you don't CF my my Kingdom to Year 5 with a 24 hr notice. That is punishment for your province being a moron for trying to abduct against a sage in early age. Of course she gets no scientists! 50% abduct protection! Get a CLUE! So, accept those terms, or anticipate that I will make your lives a living hell."

^Starts with a threat, does not want to hear explanation, pointless name-calling, zero attempt at diplomatic talk.


Emeriti's PM:

"No idea why your monarch decided to plunder us from war, but we will start razing now and we wont stop until we get some sort of explanation that makes sense"

^No name-calling, no childish attitude, open to explanation and aims for diplomatic solution to this.


Compare the two and think very hard why we responded differently to each.

So hitting into war for retribution is okay? Interesting the double standard.

You avoided all the questions in the second section. Please answer, I really want to know where the lines are for you.

The fact that Binar and ASF had to address it means there was offense taken. It's a chit move, liable even. I've seen KDs razed for less.

I see both extorting you, (or blackmail to you lol) sheister is actually teaching you more. Also the message that was sent prior to sheister's there was of a different tone than you took with the lovely bin bin

[Sheister]

Well yes BoH. Note that I give them an option before action "accept terms or else"

Emeriti said "we are razing you until you give us a reason to stop" and I presume they did just start razing until the reason was provided etc.

I mean, I guess if I had just started razing first? I guess mean words are worse than just razing.....

[Korp]

Papa Legba

Compare the two and think very hard why we responded differently to each.

The difference is that you dont have anything against Emeriti but you had against Sheister. Neither of you would raze Emeriti 3 times due to a messages either. You like us to believe it was due to a difference approach in diplomacy but in fact it was due to different state of power. You could bully Sheister cause hes being much smaller playing in a ghetto but you cant bully Emeriti cause they are way above you in anything.

But sure, adults truly acts as childish as the people they meet. thats the true call sign of being an adult. :D :D

[Kestrel038]

I see both extorting you, (or blackmail to you lol) sheister is actually teaching you more. Also the message that was sent prior to sheister's there was of a different tone than you took with the lovely bin bin

What message sent prior to Sheisters? His message to Tigress was the first communication between himself and ourselves. Not sure what "prior message" you're referring to