So what you're saying is that you don't like having such a competitive labour market? Can't compete? Most American capitalists would suggest that the availability of cheap labour stimulates business and economic growth - basically, I can afford to produce more goods, more affordably for the consumer, because unskilled labour is cheap. This is the same logic underlying the resistance to increases in the minimum wage.Originally Posted by handofthrawn
If you're going to tell me that you support a higher minimum wage, and have an issue with immigration because of the labour glut that would generate, that might put us into the position of being able to have a meaningful conversation about the economic impact of illegal immigration. But I have a feeling that you would oppose a $15/hour minimum wage, too.
Not the same thing at all, really.
The ones I'd trust to cut me open would still be expensive. Yeah, there might be a guy on the corner, with a medical degree from the Kandahar Campus of the P.T. Barnum School of Leeches and Miracle Cures, willing to cut out my gallbladder for $20, but I'm going to be asking questions like "What med school did you go to?" and "Are you insured?" - and satisfactory answers to those questions would mean I'd have to pay the 'expensive' doctors.
ETA: Swirvin, you're right about $15 being a huge underestimate. I looked at the numbers on this a while back when Trump first started talking about forcing Apple to make their phones here. While there are some figures hard to anticipate, a conservative estimate of the cost difference would still be in the hundreds of dollars. So you're getting $500 of your $600 phone subsidized by your carrier on contract right now; suddenly the retail cost shoots up to $800, and you're paying $300 out of your pocket instead of $100. (Some analyses suggest that the cost of an iPhone would shoot up to about $2000 dollars.)
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