Sparta hitting on CD

[handofthrawn]

@hand and @shai
At what percentage size difference are two kingdoms hostile legit vs not legit?

Its more about length of time and size difference. Two weeks hitting a kingdom that started 50% smaller then you should not be considered a true hostile. But like Bart said CFs protect him so he has nothing to worry about. But no I wouldn't consider it a hostile at this point.

[Mike^]

there is no active hostile here.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Why? They still haven't agreed to a free CF offered by Bart. During this time they've FBed tens of thousands of Spartan peasantry; FGed tens of millions of our hard earned GC; cowardly NSed thousands of our troops; attempted to take our holy land, abducted our noble scientists; stolen millions of GC - the thieves they are!

[Mike^]

Shai could you msg me on mirc i like to get more information about how the TAXING was done from sparta, they are atm asking us for CF and will ofc have to resive the same response as they give others.
its only fair.

[Mike^]

Matjia i normal dont speak with forum bots, but i can say this, being dicks and forcing hostile action on another kingdom wont auto constatute a active hostile.
Anyways im not getting in symantics with the likes of you, all i can say is, how bart handles this also reflect on how others handels him.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Bart asked for 10% land it got refused?

[MrCurious]

Shai could you msg me on mirc i like to get more information about how the TAXING was done from sparta, they are atm asking us for CF and will ofc have to resive the same response as they give others.
its only fair.

Shai should know better and you Mike would have done the same as Bart.
C'mon :)

[Mike^]

I dont care what i would do, atm i care about what Bart is doing.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Matjia i normal dont speak with forum bots, but i can say this, being dicks and forcing hostile action on another kingdom wont auto constatute a active hostile.
Anyways im not getting in symantics with the likes of you, all i can say is, how bart handles this also reflect on how others handels him.

They were tagged hostile fun with Sparta in the beginning; now they are not having fun anymore - pretty much sums it up.

[Mike^]

indeed, so i see you agree no more hostile, thx bye no more need for us to talk.

[MyNameIsMatija]

I think if Panthira accepted our kindly generous CF proposal hostile actions would end and Spartan people could enjoy peace and harmony, until our next grand heroic quest that is.

[Band of Horses]

Its more about length of time and size difference. Two weeks hitting a kingdom that started 50% smaller then you should not be considered a true hostile. But like Bart said CFs protect him so he has nothing to worry about. But no I wouldn't consider it a hostile at this point.

So would 51% be okay? Duration doesn't matter since it started both hitting each other and no deal has been reached.

@Mike you can read the in game messages previously in this thread, I'm normally a #BartBasher but he's not far off from being in the right here.

[Mike^]

Thing is boh, Bart could very well be in the right on this one thing, but the president he set so many times with ****play kinda makes his word no good, im no saint and far from an angel in fact i probly cheated more then anyone so im not gonna start on moral, tho i will say this if you piss all over people they tend to remember, this is the case what is going on with bart on this kingdom now, but im danm sure (if not only my own) but other kingdoms dont have alot of love left for bart and they way he in the past has handle things.

Bart has presented a case to me where he is saying we dont tax people, ohhh well ok this one kingdom we did (this is his attemt not to get taxed him self) i then say ok fair if you dont tax it would be unfair to do it to you, but plz lemme ask around if anyone exspirenced to be taxed bye, Bart / Sparta before i just take his word on it (leading back to the past things).

So qustion is simple anyone has a case where spart taxed or bart taxed other kingdoms ?

Im just gonna add this, Bart asked us for a CF and since we atm isent doing alot we are debating if we want to give him one, he then try and use this "fight" as an excuse as he is in active hostile, im not gonna debat if he is in hostile or not becouse the judge on that is mine, and i have judge he is not, im just trying to decided what kinda diplo i want to do with bart, if he is to pay "nothing" 5% - 10% - 15% - 25% for a cf, or he is not deemed worthy to get one, on the other hand he can probly easy take offer back and fight us to eoa and that is also an option, knowing very well we got no other goal im not so sure it hurts us, but not the point i gusse as bart him self said they are not gonna compeet anyways.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Their Attitude To Us
Hostile

Our Attitude To Them
Hostile

Accept our free CF offer and those go away.

[Bart of Sparta]

Thing is boh, Bart could very well be in the right on this one thing, but the president he set so many times with ****play kinda makes his word no good, im no saint and far from an angel in fact i probly cheated more then anyone so im not gonna start on moral, tho i will say this if you piss all over people they tend to remember, this is the case what is going on with bart on this kingdom now, but im danm sure (if not only my own) but other kingdoms dont have alot of love left for bart and they way he in the past has handle things.

Bart has presented a case to me where he is saying we dont tax people, ohhh well ok this one kingdom we did (this is his attemt not to get taxed him self) i then say ok fair if you dont tax it would be unfair to do it to you, but plz lemme ask around if anyone exspirenced to be taxed bye, Bart / Sparta before i just take his word on it (leading back to the past things).

So qustion is simple anyone has a case where spart taxed or bart taxed other kingdoms ?

I'm not against taxing, and we have taxed people in the past. However, it's not our general modus operandi like some other KDs. 9/10 we give free CFs to KDs if they ask. Then the 1/10 comes to the forum and cries. Sadly, the 9/10 don't create threads on the forum to praise us for our kindness!