Current kingdom is VS DBing SpartaEz enough Bart (X:XX)

[JusticeLeague]

Or no action talk only party in here

[Bart of Sparta]

Would like to apologize to Bishop for overstepping my bounds and reverting to malicious personal attacks toward one of his friends. Would furthermore like to emphasize that my behavior was not in accordance with my rank and stature on these forums, and not obeying a direct order from the one who's managing it is simply inexcusable.

Would also like to apologize to Flogger and that other guy if I really gave them the impression there was a CF. As a KD we had a long discussion about this, and we're willing to make amends within the reasonable bounds of game mechanics. In the end this is all a game about war and pain, but also love and cherishing even your worst enemies for they are the ones that give you the strength to carry on.

I'd like to make a further apology in the name of all of Sparta to all those that might've felt aggrieved by our actions in the last few ages. From a personal perspective, my journey (and the same I think goes for all of Sparta though I cannot speak FOR them) has been arduous and full of abuse (both as subject and object).

If I were to be judged by a leftist apologist they'd probably blame the environment in which Sparta grew up, suffering constant abuse and dealbreaks in the lower tiers, moving up slowly while honing our warring skills we now had to deal with an even more formidable force: the top. The main difference was that in the ghetto people simply ****play and call you names, whereas in the top people have been thrown into so many various situations with different outcomes that ****play or even dealbreaks mostly end up being a matter of semantics of which part of common law you wish to cite. This in the end leads to those with the biggest guns calling the shots. Sparta does not possess big guns nor have we been blessed with allies of old or a network of old friends to stand up for us. This has led to a significant amount of bullying suffered by us, which in return triggered a response.

The response, admittedly so, was magnified through my character traits, which are based in an undying trust for those that I cherish, coupled with an unhealthy pinch of ambition and a sense of honor/independence. This meant that when we came into contact with the top, we were not willing to perform the role the top had assigned to us, rather choosing to forge our own path outside their networks. However, to keep afloat and at the same time keep up with my ambitions (which, granted, have at times led to significant unethical gameplay), we've sometimes had to navigate into territory that is unfamiliar to many, frowned upon by most, in the end leading to the introduction of certain people and their practices that even took matters too far from my own taste.

At the start of this age we've sought to cleanse Sparta of this and become a more healthy Kingdom again. We were willing to compromise and took our opening war defeat on the chin. However, fearful of being completely obliterated by Pandas whom we assumed were merely planning on revenge, we sought the help of our erstwhile ally and utopia stalwart, to provide the liquidity we lacked to mount our assault. This was in the end solved by a timely intervention of the powers that are, putting in place a diplomatic system guaranteeing a constellation whereby liquidity became a non-factor and after a while the same went for land.

This in turn clashed with the practices of many oldschool top-players who choose to run solitary or duo-KDs and use internal sources of growth rather than seeking outside gain. They mostly use the top-KDs unwillingness to invest time and willingness to compromise to their advantage, securing Ceasefires and growing in peace, utter peace. However, Sparta had run into several of these KDs in the last age and suffered quite horribly at their hands, with loss of stock and land a direct result. We therefore sought to treat them without compromise this age, offering friendship and help but clamping down on the slightest sign of aggression, which in fact happened.

The question now remains: did we go too far vs Flogger + friend? We personally do not feel it was a dealbreak, never mind an intentional one. However, when one wants to shed an image, one has to compromise as well. We've made our peace with Fluffy, Divinity and FS this age. We even let off TNB who DBed us last age, making peace with them as well. If there are any other aggrieved, do not hesitate to bring it up here. Please be specific about the situation, the context and the way you were treated. Me and all of Sparta can probably do no more than apologize and try to make things good with the resources that we posses right now.

I wish everyone a happy utopia gaming week.

With kind regards,

Bart.

[citadela01]

Meh, I read thru to the point where u claimed to have clean your act this age. Than I remembered you started this age by planting mole into our KD.
You always cite other peoples ****play as reason for your own, but you are the vortex of abuse and cheating in this game, you were not simply pulled into it.

Not buying it, you are beyond redemption.
This is just damage control.

[Bishop]

Nothing wrong with damage control. Boundaries only become boundaries when you push them.

[Bananamancer2000]

Would like to apologize to Bishop for overstepping my bounds and reverting to malicious personal attacks toward one of his friends. Would furthermore like to emphasize that my behavior was not in accordance with my rank and stature on these forums, and not obeying a direct order from the one who's managing it is simply inexcusable.

Would also like to apologize to Flogger and that other guy if I really gave them the impression there was a CF. As a KD we had a long discussion about this, and we're willing to make amends within the reasonable bounds of game mechanics. In the end this is all a game about war and pain, but also love and cherishing even your worst enemies for they are the ones that give you the strength to carry on.

I'd like to make a further apology in the name of all of Sparta to all those that might've felt aggrieved by our actions in the last few ages. From a personal perspective, my journey (and the same I think goes for all of Sparta though I cannot speak FOR them) has been arduous and full of abuse (both as subject and object).

If I were to be judged by a leftist apologist they'd probably blame the environment in which Sparta grew up, suffering constant abuse and dealbreaks in the lower tiers, moving up slowly while honing our warring skills we now had to deal with an even more formidable force: the top. The main difference was that in the ghetto people simply ****play and call you names, whereas in the top people have been thrown into so many various situations with different outcomes that ****play or even dealbreaks mostly end up being a matter of semantics of which part of common law you wish to cite. This in the end leads to those with the biggest guns calling the shots. Sparta does not possess big guns nor have we been blessed with allies of old or a network of old friends to stand up for us. This has led to a significant amount of bullying suffered by us, which in return triggered a response.

The response, admittedly so, was magnified through my character traits, which are based in an undying trust for those that I cherish, coupled with an unhealthy pinch of ambition and a sense of honor/independence. This meant that when we came into contact with the top, we were not willing to perform the role the top had assigned to us, rather choosing to forge our own path outside their networks. However, to keep afloat and at the same time keep up with my ambitions (which, granted, have at times led to significant unethical gameplay), we've sometimes had to navigate into territory that is unfamiliar to many, frowned upon by most, in the end leading to the introduction of certain people and their practices that even took matters too far from my own taste.

At the start of this age we've sought to cleanse Sparta of this and become a more healthy Kingdom again. We were willing to compromise and took our opening war defeat on the chin. However, fearful of being completely obliterated by Pandas whom we assumed were merely planning on revenge, we sought the help of our erstwhile ally and utopia stalwart, to provide the liquidity we lacked to mount our assault. This was in the end solved by a timely intervention of the powers that are, putting in place a diplomatic system guaranteeing a constellation whereby liquidity became a non-factor and after a while the same went for land.

This in turn clashed with the practices of many oldschool top-players who choose to run solitary or duo-KDs and use internal sources of growth rather than seeking outside gain. They mostly use the top-KDs unwillingness to invest time and willingness to compromise to their advantage, securing Ceasefires and growing in peace, utter peace. However, Sparta had run into several of these KDs in the last age and suffered quite horribly at their hands, with loss of stock and land a direct result. We therefore sought to treat them without compromise this age, offering friendship and help but clamping down on the slightest sign of aggression, which in fact happened.

The question now remains: did we go too far vs Flogger + friend? We personally do not feel it was a dealbreak, never mind an intentional one. However, when one wants to shed an image, one has to compromise as well. We've made our peace with Fluffy, Divinity and FS this age. We even let off TNB who DBed us last age, making peace with them as well. If there are any other aggrieved, do not hesitate to bring it up here. Please be specific about the situation, the context and the way you were treated. Me and all of Sparta can probably do no more than apologize and try to make things good with the resources that we posses right now.

I wish everyone a happy utopia gaming week.

With kind regards,

Bart.

[brandonc204]

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[Panthira]

Or no action talk only party in here

Heh. So much wrong.

"Sparta is innocent. We don't have allies. We were taught this way, so it's only fair we act this way! Those who wronged us last round in my distorted narcissistic view, we paid back this round without compromise. We didn't know! Sparta is on a righteous path. I apologize to Bishop's friends, because without them, he wouldn't be here banning me, making me feel like I have to give a passive aggressive bull**** apology."

[umajon911]

Meh, I read thru to the point where u claimed to have clean your act this age. Than I remembered you started this age by planting mole into our KD.
You always cite other peoples ****play as reason for your own, but you are the vortex of abuse and cheating in this game, you were not simply pulled into it.

Not buying it, you are beyond redemption.
This is just damage control.

He planted a mole also?! Was it Tom/Benan?!?! I saw how long the post was and got a headache just staring at it...

[JusticeLeague]

So what is that long post from Bart in the name of Spartan for?

Doesn't make any sense to me? Is it meant for Flogger? Or are they trying to compensate Ganstah whose kingdom no longer exist till EOA>

[artist]

what a pathetic apology after ruining quiet a few KD's and bragging how flogger can do nothing to sparta and how sparta is not affraid of anything just a few days back. There is nothing sincere in those words, no remorse and if you have to ask the question if you went too far, then you understood nothing, nor do you give a crap about what others think. The post is only intended for Bishop and flogger for damage control, nothing more.

[Magicus Lex Non Scripta]

what a pathetic apology after ruining quiet a few KD's and bragging how flogger can do nothing to sparta and how sparta is not affraid of anything just a few days back. There is nothing sincere in those words, no remorse and if you have to ask the question if you went too far, then you understood nothing, nor do you give a crap about what others think. The post is only intended for Bishop and flogger for damage control, nothing more.

I was unable to put into words a response I might write, so I did not; and although your response here is perhaps not 100% the same response I might write, it is very close. Thank you.

[Minty]

Repeatedly makes himself out to be a victim. Shifting blame elsewhere.

You were the aggressor in pretty much every conflict. You resort to person attacks in this and in previous conflicts. You're a vile manipulator and this is the poorest excuse of an "apology". You can't even own up to what you do without trying to snake awake from responsability. If you want to own up to your ways you'll not do it with words but action. Words aren't worth **** from a repeat liar.

[Poopsie]

I was unable to put into words a response I might write, so I did not; and although your response here is perhaps not 100% the same response I might write, it is very close. Thank you.

We're sorry and apologized to all. And to show our sincere apology, I'm gonna send you my pooping pic. Just for you alone magicus.

[JusticeLeague]

Spartans had seek shelter under BSA. I doubt flogger and co can do anything substantial too.

[Korp]

Bart got too scared by the flogmeister with good reason.