Republic of Octobrev - Double Hostile w/ Strippers & ghetto

[Sheister]

No one has reported that name yet?

Amazingly I don't think any of the names in BB have been reported. I too was shocked. I was pretty sure our names would all be changed to Something Clown, or something grow up, etc.

I guess people like phallic allusions.

[Korp]

You mean unlike Sheister who thought he could leave his baggage behind when he joined your kingdom? Cause that is totally different yeah? you're pathetic Korp.

So, you guys are as patethic as Sheister then? How ironic.

Really helping your cause here.

I think abi is qutting/leaving or had a fallout with her kingdom cause they were very willing to throw her under the bus and kill her permanently just to get some peace during diplo talks. Or could be just a ruse!

[Band of Horses]

So, you guys are as patethic as Sheister then? How ironic.




I think abi is qutting/leaving or had a fallout with her kingdom cause they were very willing to throw her under the bus and kill her permanently just to get some peace during diplo talks. Or could be just a ruse!

I'm fairly certain she left the kingdom weeks ago. Based on the monarch province from early age being gone. RoO caused that without a single raze, OP!

[Korp]

I'm fairly certain she left the kingdom weeks ago. Based on the monarch province from early age being gone. RoO caused that without a single raze, OP!

Nope, they changed leaders that time but she still stuck around as just a player until now. Now shes gone. :( One person down, next to be razed.

[Band of Horses]

Nope, they changed leaders that time but she still stuck around as just a player until now. Now shes gone. :( One person down, next to be razed.

I feel like there are some quotes in this thread that need to be pulled up.

[Mike^]

[15:07:37] <~Forum Troll> lol a guy pmed this
[15:07:38] <~Forum Troll> " Hello fellow monarch. We are in a very awkward situation. Long story short, we have kingdom that is firmly set on razing our kingdom from now until EoA (snatch our news) and they will continue to do so even when our kingdom gets into a war with another kingdom.
[15:07:39] <~Forum Troll> We need to find a war with a kingdom that is smaller than us to make this a fair match as we will be getting hits from two kingdoms. Would you be interested in war with us?"
[15:07:52] <~Forum Troll> Thats DD messaging another kd

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[Sheister]

Tee hee

[Pillz]

April 7 of YR11 As the ultimate betrayal, Bela destroys all in the land of Cherry Jelly Saxophone before leaving for a new kingdom.


That was Abi.
She shouldn't have reused her ruler name from last age btw. 'Bela'.

Pretty stupid of her.

[Korp]

I think we "disbanded" them.

[Pillz]

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[16:00] <&lost> Yes, Macho got his sitting working fine
[16:00] <&lost> I'm the sitter
[16:00] <&lost> And I also bought credit ~24 hours later and got the same bug as macho
[16:00] <Starsfan> yeah I'd expect we're atleast 24 hours way from war
[16:00] <Starsfan> oh he gone
[16:00] <&lost> And Bishop manually sent the credit to me
[16:01] <Starsfan> k
[16:01] <&lost> I'm sitting Macho for another ~2 days
[16:01] <&lost> And we are more than 24 hours away from war
[16:02] <&lost> I can't invite of recruit with the monarch account, cuz i'm sitting it

[18:07] <Wailing> so was just reading forum and they think they have found us again
[18:08] <Wailing> I don't think they could find thier hand if they were looking for it
[18:13] <BlckTigress753> well they did raze us once...not during war, and Macho posted immediately that no one was tp respond or retal or anything and that he would "take care of it"....not qute sure what he did, or if he even did anything...but there have been no more razes that I have noticed
[18:14] <@Robin> silva was in DD earlier asking what kd we are
[18:14] <@Robin> i told him he would have to ask macho
[18:14] <@Robin> he seemed convinced we were 8:20
[18:15] <BlckTigress753> heheeh nic
[18:15] <BlckTigress753> nice*
[18:15] <BlckTigress753> even silva doesn't know where we are, that's good!
[18:16] <@Robin> well, that is if it was actually silva
[18:16] <BlckTigress753> lol, 8:20 is TINY only 14 provs...
[18:16] <BlckTigress753> yeah, good point....
[18:21] <Wailing> I think they are just using this as an excuse to beat up on anyone they feel like
[18:21] <BlckTigress753> lol pretty much
[18:22] <BlckTigress753> since that is their favorite thing to do :P
[18:22] <Wailing> so thier's chat about a new alliance
[18:23] <Wailing> has anyone recieved an invite to move to 9:9
[18:23] <BlckTigress753> yup
[18:23] <BlckTigress753> pretty much all of us it seems lol
[18:26] <@Robin> apparently bishop has been guaranteed his job

[22:39] <BlckTigress753> July 8 of YR9 Purple Helmeted Soldier (7:5) razed 126 acres of Lemon Sweet n Sour Bow Tie (2:8).
[22:39] <BlckTigress753> huh?????
06[22:47] * BlckTigress753 slaps lost
[22:47] <BlckTigress753> hey lost....why you getting razed byt a 41 million NW kingdom....
[22:51] <sarine> they love him
[22:51] <sarine> i see nothing further from 9:15... for now
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[23:06] <Raven> Count Schlongula
[23:06] <Raven> bwhahahahaha
[23:06] <Raven> love the name
[23:07] <Raven> there kd is names for dicks..... ROFLMAO
[23:07] <BlckTigress753> yeah.....kinda crazy lol
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[23:09] <Starsfan> hello hello!
[23:09] <Raven> inflatable poo jammer..... hahahaha
[23:09] <Raven> hellos
[23:10] <Starsfan> whats up/
[23:10] <Raven> laughing at 7:5's names
[23:11] <Starsfan> haha
[23:11] <Starsfan> so basically you want to copy them next age right? ;D
[23:12] <BlckTigress753> ewww no thank you :P
[23:12] <Starsfan> yeah it lacks a certain class :P
[23:13] <BlckTigress753> hhe yeah....something like that :P
[23:17] <Starsfan> well what themes have we used in the past?
[23:18] <Raven> no I think we had discussed making it about krynn at one time tho...
[23:18] <BlckTigress753> there is one theme that we have always used except when we go incognito like this age
[23:19] <Starsfan> oh>
[23:19] <Starsfan> what's that?
[23:19] <Raven> call our selves I Am, then everyone would be a part of krynn
[23:19] <Raven> i am Krynn's Lips
[23:19] <Raven> I am Krynn's Butt
[23:19] <Raven> lol
[23:19] <BlckTigress753> emmmm well since you are new, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say actually.....we had some MAJOR drama last age.....like insane....
[23:20] <Starsfan> oh.. well I wasn't around last age lol
[23:20] <BlckTigress753> hence, we are incognito this age lol

<&lost> hi
[23:25] <&lost> and about the raze
[23:25] <&lost> i don't know
[23:25] <BlckTigress753> hey lost....why is a 41 million gc NW kingdom razing you??? lol what hornets nest did you step on??
[23:25] <BlckTigress753> soooo crazy
[23:25] <BlckTigress753> like, why would they bother??? lol
[23:25] <Starsfan> stealing gold :P
[23:25] <&lost> I never spoke with anyone of them
[23:25] <Starsfan> am I right? :D
[23:25] <&lost> Nope, I have too many gc
[23:25] <Starsfan> hmmm
[23:26] <&lost> I haven't steal in days
[23:26] <Starsfan> that's usually the only thing that makes them go ballistic
[23:26] <Starsfan> taking gold from out of their banks :P
[23:28] <Starsfan> hmm well if they were really pissed at you it would have been more than just the 1 raze
[23:28] <Starsfan> they would have put 4 or 5 on you in the same hour.. very strange :/
[23:28] <BlckTigress753> maybe someone just screwed up and razed into the wrong kingdom lol like, flipped their numbers or something....
[23:29] <Starsfan> or they meant to plunder
[23:30] <Starsfan> that would have been a really dumb mistake but it's been known to happen to people playing on their phones..
[23:30] <BlckTigress753> lol very true
[23:30] <&lost> PLunder a prov with "only" 1 million gc stockpile on my size is kinda dumb imho
[23:31] <&lost> And with NW difference, they would have net a whopping 250-300k gc
[23:31] <Starsfan> hmm
[23:31] <Starsfan> maybe someone else in the KD was thieving on them and they decided to raze our biggest prov as an example.. still doesn't make much sense though
[23:31] <Starsfan> bad luck I guess :P
[23:32] <&lost> Now, I know why
[23:32] <&lost> I just understand now
[23:33] <&lost> Current kingdom is B B C S4Z (7:5)
[23:33] <&lost> Current kingdom is Snuggles 4 zauper (9:12)
[23:33] <&lost> Tigress will understand as well
[23:33] <Raven> ohhhhh
[23:33] <sarine> sigh
[23:33] <Raven> yep damn
[23:33] <Bry> isnt S4Z because zauper bought the game
[23:33] <Starsfan> ah ok
[23:34] <Bry> theres a s4z thread in the fourm
[23:34] <Starsfan> yeah that 7:5 kingdom is warseekers
[23:34] <BlckTigress753> ooooooooo sheister then....perhaps....
[23:34] <&lost> Dickshop and co
[23:34] <Starsfan> they've never had any conection with zauper
[23:34] <BlckTigress753> then, no one respond!!!!
[23:34] <BlckTigress753> we play dumb and innocent
[23:34] <&lost> Yeah, no one do anything about this raze
[23:35] <BlckTigress753> don't think any of us would considering their size......lol
[23:35] <Raven> so I guess that was there big suprise that they kept harping about
[23:36] <Starsfan> hmm more secrets eh? :P

[23:42] <Starsfan> well I was in NI for the longest time, so I'm good with alliances
[23:42] <Starsfan> let's start abusing our power and getting all of our KDs to gangbang 9:12 lol
[23:43] <sarine> that'll be our end of age fun =p
[23:43] <&lost> lol
[23:44] <&lost> We would prolly lose one provs/waves against 7:5 and 9:12 alone
[23:44] <&lost> :P
[23:44] <Starsfan> saw the one new guy wants to get into irc
[23:44] <Starsfan> also saw that nestoropia got hit for 300 acres and promptly explored it all back :/
[23:45] <&lost> Nah, he didn't explored it back
[23:45] <&lost> he was that fat
[23:45] <Starsfan> I'm sure I saw him at 600 acres erlier today
[23:45] <Starsfan> and now he's at 850
[23:46] <&lost> well, let's raze/farm him out
[23:46] <sarine> staying lean isn't much protection, either =/
[23:46] <Bry> he was 700 earlier today when i was online
[23:47] <Starsfan> Macho said nestoropia never did respond to his mails
[23:47] <Bry> around the time you sent me back my gc
[23:47] <Starsfan> I sent him a mail offering to help and he did not respond
[23:47] <Starsfan> anyone have any luck getting in touch with him?
[23:47] <&lost> nope, and look at my ops in the bot
[23:47] <&lost> the guy just keep exploring and training offense to boost his NW and stay underdef
[23:48] <&lost> It's clearly a fram
[23:48] <&lost> *farm
[23:49] <Starsfan> well no defense is easy enough to kill :P
[23:49] <&lost> Def. Points 3,493
[23:50] <&lost> 2470 coming from his soldiers...
[23:51] <BlckTigress753> lol that's crazy....
[23:51] <Starsfan> lol he's got 195 acres incoming from exploring
[23:51] <Starsfan> yeah let's go ahead and grease that turkey ^^

[20:52] <&Krynn> indeed
[20:52] <Starsfan> like we can stay in the alliance, I have no problem with it.. I think alliances are good in general from my own experiences in them
[20:53] <Starsfan> but I feel that there would be a negative reaction if it was percieved that we were dragging other KDs into this
[20:53] <@Robin> just saying i would not put it past them, knowing we are hiding this age and they have struggled to find us they would take any chance to make it easier for themselves
[20:53] <@Macho_Mib> Stars, for the record, RoO has called their friends in top 10 to periodically hit us last age
[20:54] <@Robin> alliances screwed the game up a lot
[20:54] <@Macho_Mib> yet no one has called them out for being cunning
[20:54] <Starsfan> yeah well people are afraid of their friends :P
[20:54] <@Macho_Mib> there is a right time to be fair and just.. not anymore
[20:54] <Starsfan> there's a very real "might makes right" vibe in this game
[20:54] <Starsfan> especially because those top KD people are the loudest by far in the forums
[20:55] <@Macho_Mib> then why can't we apply that principle ourselves if everyone abides to it?
[20:56] <Starsfan> anyone seriously underpop? need soldiers to release into peasants?
[20:56] <@Macho_Mib> i think everyone is underpopped
[20:56] <Starsfan> well we can do the live by the sword die by the sword thing
[20:56] <&lost> Even me!
[20:56] <@Macho_Mib> Total 24105
[20:56] <@Macho_Mib> Max Population 38208
[20:56] <Starsfan> yeah I mean is anyone on 2k peasants and needs a bunch of soldiers?
[20:56] <Starsfan> to jump start their economy?
[20:56] <&Krynn> ok
[20:56] <&Krynn> age is over
[20:56] <&Krynn> set DD banner
[20:57] <&Krynn> watch the attacks come
[20:57] <&lost> Total 72048
[20:57] <&lost> Max Population 77682
[20:57] <&Krynn> and ask this "alliance" to do something
[20:57] <Starsfan> you know guys I think it might actually be over for the most part as long as we don't rock the boat
[20:58] <Starsfan> from what I've read in #tactics, Korp and them all know where we are.. and they most certainly could have razed into our war but they didn't
[20:58] <&Krynn> then start spewing how we got alliance friends
[20:58] <@Macho_Mib> krynn you had ONE instance of bad experience with alliance.. and you judge every alliancing on it
[20:58] <&Krynn> watch the forums flame
[20:58] <&Krynn> and watch how fast this "alliance" drops us
[20:58] <&Krynn> no Macho
[20:59] <&Krynn> many
[20:59] <@Macho_Mib> Many of us have been in alliance in the past and many will say that alliances have turned out quite alright
[20:59] <&Krynn> and watch many more
[20:59] <@Macho_Mib> including myself
[20:59] <@Macho_Mib> lost
[20:59] <@Macho_Mib> stars
[20:59] <@Macho_Mib> tell you what, we'll have a vote in the forum
[20:59] <Starsfan> there's always been a negative reaction to using the alliance in your own conflicts though
[21:00] <Starsfan> like if alliances are warring eachother than that's fine. But if a KD is threatening another with alliance action people don't like that.
[21:00] <@Macho_Mib> there will be no alliance wars with WoU
[21:01] <Starsfan> I mostly have liked alliances in the past because of the social element and the fact they were the original recruitment vehicles.
[21:01] <Starsfan> like you could move on up to better KD through the alliance.
[21:01] <@Macho_Mib> ok
[21:01] <&lost> Yeah! Let's steal their core players and grow to 25 provs :D
[21:02] <@Macho_Mib> I see both sides' points
[21:02] <@Macho_Mib> neither is right or wrong
[21:02] <Starsfan> should we open a thread where we can talk about the war?
[21:02] <&lost> I am in the same position as Macho
[21:02] <@Macho_Mib> our recent war?
[21:02] <Starsfan> Like I just realized today I completely ****ed my build by not building any hospitals lol
[21:02] <&lost> You can open as many thread you want
[21:02] <@Macho_Mib> yeah sure
[21:03] <Starsfan> learning oppurtunities :P
[21:03] <@Macho_Mib> yup, you are free to open however many threads you want, just as I am free to delete and close any threads :P
[21:03] <@Macho_Mib> jk
[21:03] <&lost> lol
[21:03] <&Krynn> here, this is your "friendly alliance"
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[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : DD?
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : Dungeon Dwellers?
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : lol
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : they were kicked from HaJ
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : I kicked them
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : I would bring in kingdoms and look to try and help them
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : some kingdoms had limitations
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : and they wouldnt want to develop or couldnt develop
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : and there were some kingdoms that were obviously an embarrassment
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : so those decisiosn got made
[21:03] <&Krynn> [Steel] So dd was in the embarrassment category?
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : there were a couple of wars that were really bad
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : and they had warred some friends
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : and i saw the war records
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : and got all that data
[21:03] <&Krynn> [mad_scottish] : then the decisions were made
[21:03] <&Krynn> they did no such thing
[21:04] <&Krynn> but that is another story
[21:04] <&Krynn> forget tagging alliance
[21:04] <@Macho_Mib> mad_scottish is in wou?
[21:04] <&Krynn> want friends, fine
[21:04] <&Krynn> but do not tag us as an alliance
[21:04] <&lost> look in #wou macho
[21:05] <Starsfan> how long EoWCF up?
[21:05] <@Macho_Mib> hm
[21:05] <@Macho_Mib> 72 hours, stars
[21:05] <Starsfan> bleah used to be 96 :P
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[21:05] <&lost> [16:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Mad_Scottish
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[21:05] <Starsfan> *shrugs(
[21:07] <Starsfan> can someone send over like 50k gold?
[21:07] <@Macho_Mib> We have sent 50,000 gold coins to Urban Warfare (2:8)
[21:07] <&lost> yes, I can do that...
[21:07] <Starsfan> thanks
[21:07] <&lost> too late
[21:08] <@Macho_Mib> krynn, but wou is not haj
[21:08] <&Krynn> 7 of us in there and 5 are DD
[21:08] <&Krynn> *shakes head*
[21:09] <@Macho_Mib> its a new alliance
[21:09] <Starsfan> most KDs don't even use IRC anyway
[21:09] <&Krynn> with the same asshats
[21:09] <Starsfan> so you wouldn't get members from some KDs in that channel even if they were really active and organized
[21:10] <&Krynn> Mad as you can see has also been in WOU
[21:10] <&Krynn> enough said
[21:10] <&Krynn> do not tag us
[21:10] <@Macho_Mib> if mad is in the alliance, then that's even better for us
[21:10] <&lost> s
[21:10] <&lost> [19:40] * Topic is 'A new episode of Triggered is out: https://youtu.be/9foBeLbUJC0 feat: New owners of Utopia Jeff and Dave. | Age end date is now ingame'
[21:10] <&lost> [19:40] * Set by zapanap on Fri Feb 24 17:55:16 2017
[21:10] <&lost> [19:40] * ChanServ sets mode: +v lost
[21:11] <&lost> lol
[21:11] <&lost> I,m voiced in #tactics
[21:15] <&Krynn> and another thing, the alliance will be filled with guys just like Korp and ****ster
[21:15] <@Macho_Mib> hey, if they are on our side, i dont see a problem.
[21:16] <@Macho_Mib> they leave us the **** alone and we go about minding our own business
[21:16] <&Krynn> do not know why we are having this dicussion. If Abi were active here she would have already said no and there would be no talk
[21:16] <@Macho_Mib> we are having this discussion because other people have differing opinion from you
[21:17] <@Macho_Mib> if everything is to go abi's or your way, this wouldnt be a kd
[21:18] <&Krynn> and if advise from players who been playing since 2001 were listen to we would be a better kingdom
[21:18] <@Macho_Mib> lots of people in our kd have been playing since decades ago, krynn
[21:18] <@Macho_Mib> i didnt start this game a year ago
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[21:19] <@Macho_Mib> I was here when undead was a new race
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[21:19] <&Krynn> if this is such a good thing why was it done w/o talking about it
[21:20] <&Krynn> why was it done in the dark
[21:20] <&Krynn> look, I am not going to fight about it
[21:20] <&Krynn> should not have to
[21:20] <@Macho_Mib> ok, that was my fault for making decision without consulting
[21:20] <&Krynn> do whatever
[21:21] <&Krynn> you have heard what the core has said
[21:21] <@Macho_Mib> but im not going to just go with you because you feel that your opinion matters more than others because you feel like you know this game better than anyone else
[21:22] <&Krynn> yeah, thats what I said Macho
[21:22] <&Krynn> ffs
[21:22] <&Krynn> really?
[21:22] <&Krynn> uncalled for
[21:22] <&lost> Macho said 2 weeks ago to not touch 9:12 (after their raze on me iirc), that he would deal with the problem on his side. We are tagged in this alliance for 2 weeks now?
[21:22] <&Krynn> and unacceptable
[21:22] <&lost> Are we dead yet?
[21:23] <@Macho_Mib> not word to word what you said but you certainly make it sound that way, krynn
[21:24] <@Macho_Mib> "Krynn and if advise from players who been playing since 2001 were listen to we would be a better kingdom" = "this kingdom sucks cuz you dont listen to me"
[21:24] <&Krynn> again, uncalled for
[21:25] <&lost> Please, stop the drama guys.
[21:25] <&lost> We can have a much more intelligent discusion
[21:26] <@Macho_Mib> i am open to discussion, but apparently krynn doesnt think this topic warrants a discussion
[21:28] <&lost> I'm open as well. And I see the points on both sides.
[21:28] <&Krynn> not really, and I missed the whole Mad is a good thing.....best ask abi about that, because that was the real reason for HaJ break up, was abi and mad had a falling out
[21:28] <&Krynn> going to eat
[21:29] <&lost> There's nothing black or white in having an aliiance, if the alliance leaders don't have an hidden agenda and everyone do their share of responsabilities
[21:31] <Starsfan> age ends in 9 days?
[21:31] <Starsfan> think we can get through another war in that time?
[21:32] <@Robin> abi did not do exactly what she was told to do...basically did not update war info when asked

[23:12] <&lost> About RoO : I don't care that much about them tbh, we may tag ourselve back and see what happens. We now have a new leadership and most of their rage was against abi
[23:12] <&lost> So we may be able to peace them out
[23:13] <&lost> as long as steel and I aren't the main negociator
[23:13] <&lost> :P
[23:13] <sarine> haha
[23:13] <sarine> all right, then
[23:13] <&lost> He hates french frog
[23:13] <sarine> ahh\
[23:14] <&lost> I wasn't born in the right place for him ;)
[23:15] <sarine> seems like a... reasonable grudge
[23:15] <sarine> for a very broad definition of "reasonable"
[23:15] <&lost> lol
[23:16] <&lost> nah, he's an english guy living in my province which is french in majority
[23:16] <sarine> ahhh
[23:16] <sarine> that makes a bit more sense
[23:16] <&lost> there's a linguistic battle in Québec/Canada
[23:16] <sarine> still silly
[23:16] <&lost> I'm a reasonable frenchie
[23:16] <sarine> is quebec still hoping to secede?
[23:17] <Starsfan> well Canada is kind of in a bubble right now
[23:17] <&lost> Independance is falling in here :(
[23:17] <Starsfan> when things get bad again, I think that sentiment will be back on the rise
[23:18] <&lost> I do hope for it, but not for a qorthless battle of language
[23:18] <&lost> *worthless
[23:18] <Starsfan> like if Canada elected their own Trump, you'd have a referendum right quick :P
[23:18] <sarine> haha
[23:18] <sarine> touché
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[23:18] <&lost> yeah, prolly
[23:19] <&lost> but still, we had harper for ~10 years
[23:19] <Raven> crap i missed the last hooraaa
[23:19] <&lost> You can still enjoy the win
[23:19] <&lost> :)
[23:20] <Raven> yeahhhh I guess...... lol :p
[23:21] <&lost> Personally, I'm for independance of Québec, and to be honest, I think that most provinces in Canada should do the same, unless there's a huge reform in our constitution

[23:22] <sarine> why's that?
[23:22] <sarine> what's wrong with the Canadian constitution?
[23:23] <&lost> article 91 and 92 that defines the power of federal and provinces first of all
[23:24] <Starsfan> states rights argument
[23:24] <Starsfan> IE the only thing that is going to save the US right now
[23:24] <sarine> mm
[23:25] <sarine> very interesting
[23:25] <&lost> but federal still control funds on provinces finances since the federal has too much taxes income for their own need
[23:25] <sarine> so basically the overflow is where provinces get their money?
[23:25] <&lost> And they don,t want to transfert theses income lever, it'd mean they are losing power
[23:26] <&lost> Yeah sarine, but with condition
[23:26] <&lost> and the needs of the 10 provinces aren't the same
[23:27] <&lost> we can't bind to these condition blindly
[23:28] <&lost> And our economy aren't the same at all as well.
[23:28] <sarine> sounds like the provinces are more separate in Canada than the states are down here
[23:29] <Starsfan> no
[23:29] <Starsfan> i wouldn't say that exactly...
[23:29] <Starsfan> or maybe that's just an outsider talking
[23:29] <sarine> well, same here for your country, haha
[23:29] <Starsfan> but I think there are legitimate arguments for Canada sticking together from a cohesion standpoint
[23:30] <Starsfan> whereas it seems to me that it literally could not be more different between California and a place like Kentucky down there
[23:30] <&lost> When Fed invest in oil industry massively, it makes our $ goes up, it cut factory job in QUébec and Ontario since the export would cost more $, if the Fed do the reverse, then Alberta, Nova-Scotia and Manitoba are bleeding
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[23:32] <sarine> culturally there's a lot of difference across the US, but I feel like federal economy is more uniformly good across states than it sounds like it is across provinces
[23:32] <&lost> I'm not an independantist at all cost. I think we can make this federation better. But I also think we would need to rethink how it works and redistribute a lot more power to the provinces
[23:34] <Starsfan> everything I read makes it sound like the economy has kind of failed in alot of places in the states.. especially the rust belt and the south
[23:35] <sarine> yeah, but it's not like it's because the fed is doing something good for some states but not for others
[23:36] <&lost> We have an independantist politic party in my prov, The Bloc Québécois, on the federal scene. I keep saying for almost 10 years they would need to rtansform themselve into a politics party to give back power to the provinces, since they can't anything by being only in my province and that it'd FINALLY give us, canadian, another option
[23:36] <&lost> it would also solve the independance problem in here
[23:36] <&lost> Everyone wins!
[23:37] <sarine> haha
[23:37] <Starsfan> quebec politics kind of confuses me..
[23:38] <Starsfan> like I know at the provincial level you guys have like 3 or 4 unique to Quebec parties that compete quite strongly
[23:38] <Starsfan> whereas everywhere else is more the provincial versions of federal parties.
[23:38] <Starsfan> Any of the Quebec provincial parties push for that line of change lost? That might be another way to go
[23:39] <&lost> Yeah, we are quite different in here. Even our federalist provincial parties don't want to sign the 1982 constitution
[23:40] <&lost> But they don't want to leave Canada
[23:40] <&lost> :P
[23:40] <&lost> it's been 35 years now
[23:41] <&lost> And the same applies for a lot of social questions
[23:42] <&lost> i,d need to find it to show you
[23:42] <&Macho> hello
[23:42] <&lost> but they was a canada wide survey on social question, and it was kinda like :
[23:43] <&lost> If Québec say yes on 80%, ROC say yes on 20%
[23:43] <&lost> for all the 40 questions
[23:43] <&lost> HI Macho
[23:43] <Starsfan> hey macho
[23:44] <&Macho> ahh canadian politics
[23:44] <&Macho> I'll stay ouy
[23:44] <&Macho> out
[23:44] <&lost> haha macho
[23:45] <&lost> I'm glad to speak with another canadian, outside my province and share my thought on our politics and why Québec want secede and how it could be solved
[23:46] <&lost> *tosecede
[23:46] <&Macho> i doubt canadian politics is as divisive as the ones in the States
[23:46] <&lost> we were 89k votes from secession in 1995

(((((((((((((((EDIT: In 1995 the separatists cheated and still lost))))))))))))))))



[02:36] <&Krynn> but it is interesting
[02:37] <&Krynn> you have access to the banner Macho?
[02:37] <&Macho> yup, elf is definitely a support role.. 3-4 elves for NM waves + turtle
[02:37] <&Macho> while orc core do the heavy lifting
[02:37] <&Macho> yes I do
[02:37] <&Krynn> ok
[02:37] <&Macho> are you talking about dd banner?
[02:37] <&Krynn> yes
[02:37] <&Macho> then no
[02:37] <Starsfan> lol
[02:37] <Starsfan> what banner did you think?
[02:38] <&Macho> i thought he was talking about if i was able ot change the banner
[02:38] <Starsfan> I would say 12 heavy attackers minimum
[02:38] <&Macho> 16 more like
[02:38] <Starsfan> 16 if we aren't using hybrids. No more than 5 or 6 T/M
[02:39] <&Macho> let's wait for the final change
[02:39] <&Krynn> can not get to it right now, seems photo bucket is down
[02:39] <&Macho> there's always some drastic change in final
[02:40] <Starsfan> hmm yeah
[02:40] <Starsfan> man I wish we had the active attackers to make a core of undead / WH work
[02:41] <Starsfan> with the proper lineup, that could do some real damage ;P
[02:41] <Starsfan> maybe UD / Tactician too would be good
[02:42] <&Macho> stars, when we were running avian heretic (0 thief loss), people were hesitant to thieve oow either because they were too busy or they thought it wasnt worth it
[02:42] <&Macho> if you are hoping that people would hustle here, that is really a wishful thinking, sadly
[02:43] <Starsfan> yeah
[02:43] <Starsfan> but not only here. every other KD i played in too lol
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[02:43] <&Macho> " DD is not hiding out of fear I guess but more because they want to let the conflict go which RoO never seemed to want given their attemps to negotiate was centered arround wanting to humiliate DD and thus no agreement could be reached."
[02:44] <&Macho> good to see people are finally having enough of RoO's constant attention-seeking
[02:45] <&Krynn> who?
[02:45] <&Krynn> phiit
[02:45] <&Macho> from the forum

[02:59] <&Krynn> but real ****ty for in game anything
[02:59] <&Macho> I'll speak with diamonds (wou founder)
[02:59] <&Krynn> Net Change
[02:59] <&Krynn> 219,338gc
[02:59] <&Macho> and address the concerns raised by you
[02:59] <&Krynn> heehee
[03:00] <Starsfan> nicee
[03:00] <&Krynn> EoA dwarf
[03:00] <&Krynn> Lovin-it
[03:01] <&Macho> if you look at the membership of WoU, none of them are top-tier kd.. as a matter of facts, many are smaller than us with more losses than wins..
[03:01] <&Macho> to be, it just seems like a group of kd that is sick of getting bullied and bottomfed by the likes of RoO
[03:01] <&Macho> by no means are they advocating for server domination or ego competition between members
[03:02] <&Krynn> in most cases, THEY ARE LIKE ROH
[03:02] <&Krynn> grr
[03:02] <&Krynn> damn caps
[03:03] <&Krynn> sound like good friends to have
[03:03] <&Krynn> all for that
[03:03] <&Krynn> but tagging....or calling ourselves apart of an alliance.....no
[03:03] <&Krynn> IMO
[03:04] <&Krynn> and not alone in this. it is not just me here Macho.
[03:04] <Starsfan> are you against tagging with fake alliances? :P

[03:27] <Starsfan> you know if we did I'm sure Korp and his asshole friends would move to initiate some sort of final reckoning where they razed a bunch of our provinces and so on, and then after it was over we could move on with our age :P
[03:28] <&Macho> and lose a third of our provinces?
[03:28] <&Macho> :D
[03:29] <Starsfan> you think people would quit over that?
[03:30] <&Macho> we had 2 people quit
[03:30] <&Macho> 1 very good mage.. and 1 decent attacker
[03:31] <Starsfan> well if you are concerned about massive fallout from whatever punitive actions will be coming our way I'd probably avoid the dungeon theme until you can settle this in some fashion diplomatically then lol
[03:31] <Starsfan> I have a theme that I always push and never gets selected so maybe this will be my lucky year LO
[03:32] <&Macho> what is it?
[03:33] <Starsfan> Globetrotters theme :D
[03:33] <Starsfan> Utopias Greatest Sports Team ^^
[03:33] <Starsfan> Also the Globetrotters are know for dunking on punks with style so I feel like it has a certain panache.

[20:31] <BlckTigress753> lost was just here before you logged in Krynn....
[20:31] <BlckTigress753> like....15 minutes ago.....soooo maybe he stepped out?
[20:32] <&Krynn> time to put up DD and the DD banner
[20:32] <BlckTigress753> macho I haven't seen in a long while....
[20:32] <Bry> the spell that used to double the science rate
[20:32] <@Lilika> hello hello
[20:32] <BlckTigress753> well....macho is dealing with the 9:12 situation....soooo I'm not sure he quite wants to do that yet?
[20:32] <Bry> that was the beez knees
[20:32] <&Krynn> get our **** together and raze 9:12 to dirt
[20:32] <BlckTigress753> lost got razed 8 times.... so we need to make sure we are all ready
[20:32] <BlckTigress753> I am not ready
[20:33] <&Krynn> not yet
[20:33] <&Krynn> but it is time to unvail
[20:33] <BlckTigress753> most people are not ready from what I've seen loggin in here today....soooo I don't think we want the banner up this very second until we have our gear in order and are ready for a full-on insanity....
[20:33] <BlckTigress753> though personally, I'd really rather just they go away and think whatever
[20:34] <&Krynn> they know where we are
[20:34] <&Krynn> no reason not to tag up
[20:35] <&Krynn> if we are not DD any more, then I can move on
[20:37] <&Krynn> I am all for trying diplomacy
[20:37] <&Krynn> but I do not think it will work
[20:38] <Bry> if diplomace worked, you wouldnt be in a 107page thread on the fourms
[20:38] <Bry> got to be close to a fourm record
[20:38] <BlckTigress753> well, lets just wait and see what macho can accomplish....and yes lol Bry.....the forums are hilarious
[20:39] <BlckTigress753> everyone seems to have these extremist attitudes....
[20:41] <Bry> i dont have time to read 107 pages
[20:41] <Bry> its whatever
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[20:44] <BlckTigress753> lol don't worry Bry....there's nothing worth reading in the entire 107 pages haha
[20:45] <Starsfan> hey all
[20:46] <&Krynn> Macho has already tried diplo
[20:46] <&Krynn> they posted it in the forums and told him to shove it up his ass more or less
[20:52] <Starsfan> ehh what are you gonna do :
[20:52] <Starsfan> it is what it is.
[20:53] <Bry> indeed
[20:54] <Starsfan> I mean we could try to land whore next age and be in a better position to fight back :P
[20:54] <&Krynn> there is no fight back with this
[20:54] <&Krynn> they have ...what 5 maybe 7 proves
[20:54] <&Krynn> they are assholes
[20:55] <&Krynn> we could spend the time razing them again for something to do for the next 9 days
[20:55] <&Krynn> but the more I think about it the more I like going dark in the forums and do zero retals
[20:56] <&Krynn> eat it for the next 9 days
[20:56] <&Krynn> on the other hand if we are not going back to DD, then I don't really care
[20:57] <&Krynn> and I can move onto a more structured KD
[20:57] <Starsfan> yeah i don't think it's likely that we can convince them to stop razing at an point in the next 9 days
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[20:57] <Starsfan> unless they decide to do so on their own.
[21:00] <&Krynn> I like the idea of ignoring them
[21:01] <&Krynn> but keeping our people out of the forums has proven impossable
[21:03] <Starsfan> there is absolutely no point to anyone posting in that thread ever again unless it's Macho with a diplomatic solution to this problem.
[21:04] <Starsfan> these people are complete babies that will take any perceived slight as an excuse to continue the spectacle.
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[21:08] <@Macho_Mib> hello
[21:10] <&Krynn> sent you banner link
[21:10] <&Krynn> let me know if you have any problems
[21:10] <@Macho_Mib> ok I'll check it out when i get home
[21:10] <&Krynn> kk
[21:10] <@Macho_Mib> i dont have access too Macho on this computer
[21:10] <@Macho_Mib> btw krynn
[21:11] <@Macho_Mib> WoU founder will hold a chat session with us tomorrow on the 6th
[21:11] <&Krynn> nice attempt at Diplo with the asshats
[21:11] <@Macho_Mib> will you be here?
[21:11] <&Krynn> was really glad to see you try
[21:12] <&Krynn> I will try
[21:12] <&Krynn> should be
[21:12] <@Macho_Mib> oh I'm not done diplo'ing, i was kinda busy the past few hours
[21:12] <@Macho_Mib> so wasnt able to respond to their assish response
[21:12] <@Macho_Mib> but apparently, they think I'm abi lol
[21:12] <&Krynn> Dr gave me 3 more weeks at home
[21:12] <@Macho_Mib> ok
[21:13] <@Macho_Mib> "Also think it was pretty nice of us not to kill the small guy in first wave, we aint mean like that. No "new" monarch story will get you off this one." - RoO response
[21:14] <@Macho_Mib> I'm not really making an excuse cuz I really am a new monarch lol
[21:17] <Starsfan> put the entire KD in VM? :P
[21:17] <Starsfan> that's always good for a laugh
[21:17] <@Macho_Mib> lol
[21:17] <@Macho_Mib> naw
[21:17] <Starsfan> could be a nice break from utopia
[21:18] <Starsfan> rest up in the 7 days, get ready for a new age :P
[21:18] <@Macho_Mib> and then continue to hide next age?
[21:18] <@Macho_Mib> not interested. I plan to end this feud this age
[21:19] <Starsfan> we don't have any ability to "end the feud" if they won't acknowledge your or present reasonable terms besides "disband the kingdom and have everyone quit"
[21:20] <@Macho_Mib> I can make it happen
[21:20] <Starsfan> ok.
[21:40] <&lost> Some good changes for next age
[21:40] <@Macho_Mib> hi lost
[21:40] <&lost> Some are really, wtf are you doing?
[21:41] <@Macho_Mib> you doing alright?
[21:41] <&lost> Hi Macho
[21:41] <&lost> Yes
[21:42] <&lost> Krynn : even if I wanted to change the banner and the kingdom tag, I can't
[21:42] <&lost> This isn't a steward feature

[Pillz]

[21:43] <@Macho_Mib> "See this is pretty nice considering we knew it was you all age (ye you have a leak)." - RoO
[21:43] <@Macho_Mib> and that leak = bishop
[21:43] <@Macho_Mib> anyway
[21:43] <@Macho_Mib> i like next age changes
[21:44] <&lost> Yeah, I knew Bishop would do that
[21:45] <&lost> Since they knew it since age start, you could thank them to not have interfered in our age before today (the other random razes they made were kinda pointless)
[21:46] <@Macho_Mib> I'm. not. thanking. them. for. anything.
[21:47] <&lost> :)
[21:47] <&lost> Well, it could make them learn something
[21:47] <&lost> :P
[21:50] <@Macho_Mib> I'll bbl
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[22:24] <Raven> forget resolving 9:12 it wont happen because they live in moms basement and have nothing better to do. It was already said that the one asshole trolled a girl for 3 years to get rid of her if that says anything
[22:25] <Raven> so they wont stop till abi is gone and thats NOT an option to me.....
[22:26] <&lost> They knew who we were since the start of the age
[22:26] <&lost> btw
[22:27] <Raven> says who
[22:29] <&lost> Message exchange with macho
[22:30] <&lost> They said we have a leak... but in fact the leak should be Bishop
[22:31] <Raven> i call bull ****, and if its true the only way they would of knew is if Bishop did exactly like I said and scanned Ips, or someone told them....
[22:31] <&lost> Bishop don't need to scan ip
[22:31] <&lost> he's an admin
[22:32] <&lost> he has game sensitive information in his hands
[22:32] <Raven> oh I know, I called his **** from day one, thats why he banns me everytime i say something in the forums
[22:34] <&lost> But please, don't say anything in the forum
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[22:36] <Raven> nahhh i read it every so often, if you notice i only have about 20 posts in the forums and iv been playing on and off many years lol there a bunch of *****es

[23:49] <Starsfan> I'm thinking of just throwing my province into VM and taking a week's break and wait for next age :p
[23:50] <Starsfan> it's nice to get a break every now and again :P highly recommend it to everyone
[23:56] <Raven> hey yo... noooooooo i didnt lol
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[00:49] <&Krynn> thank you for the topic change Lost
[00:51] <&lost> Yeah, I was thinking it has to be clear
[00:51] <&lost> I don't want interference like in last age
[00:53] <&lost> let's solve this once and for all

[01:26] <Starsfan> hey macho you on?
[01:26] <&Macho> i am always on
[01:26] <Starsfan> sweet
[01:27] <Starsfan> do you think it would be worthwhile you making a post in the public forums and acknowledging that you are the new monarch of the KD, abi is effectively in retirement, and that you want a resolution to this issue?
[01:27] <Starsfan> since they are already posting your PMs in the forum :P
[01:27] <&Macho> why make it public?
[01:28] <Starsfan> issue is already public. Not sure we want them driving the entire narrative
[01:28] <Starsfan> selectively posting messages and all, making us seem intrasigent.
[01:29] <&Macho> I will interfere once I see them selectively postive messages
[01:29] <&Macho> I'm just unsure if they are aware I am macho
[01:30] <&Macho> im waiting for their response
[01:31] <&Macho> they went MIA once it was confirmed that I was a new monarch
[01:32] <Starsfan> in any case, I really think we should try NW whoring next age lol
[01:32] <Starsfan> the bigger we grow, by definition the less people there are that can **** with us :P
[01:33] <&Macho> we can avoid that simply through good diplomacy
[01:33] <&Macho> im not a fan of whoring cuz its boring :(
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[01:45] <sarine> i mean
[01:45] <sarine> "boring" like "boring a hole" is a kind of whoring for those with penises
[01:46] <sarine> so, "point" made
[01:46] <Starsfan> hah
[01:47] <&Macho> rofl good one
[01:48] <sarine> i'm always here for your punning needs

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03[02:46] * Set by lost on Tue Feb 28 22:35:01 2017

[13:55] <@Macho_Mib> hello
[14:01] <@Macho_Mib> quiet morning
[14:01] <@Macho_Mib> or mourning should i say?
[14:01] <@Macho_Mib> lol
[14:02] <@Macho_Mib> nothing like laughing at my own joke
[14:02] <@Macho_Mib> or should i say bad joke?
[14:25] <BlckTigress753> 12:06 Krynn apperently we are not DD any more. I am out of here.
[14:25] <BlckTigress753> all I want to know....is what is Krynn's problem??
[14:26] <BlckTigress753> like hello, we aren't ready for war, most are still training def specs it would be STUPID to tag up right this very second....so if that is what he is going off on a tiff about.....like dude, BE PATIENT
[14:26] <BlckTigress753> honestly.....sometimes I wonder how old people are.....my toddler has better manners :/
[14:29] <BlckTigress753> like, I know the poor guy is still drugged up on painkillers (most likely) but he's also kinda always like this???
[14:37] <@Macho_Mib> well, krynn isn't completely being unreasonable. the reason why didnt tag up in the first place is to prevent RoO from finding us
[14:38] <@Macho_Mib> and now that they have (though they claim to have been following us "all age long", he doesnt see the point of staying anon anymore
[14:39] <@Macho_Mib> But I do agree with you that he is rather being impatient
[14:39] <@Macho_Mib> we still have 8-9 days till EoA

[18:21] <&TUDD> Do NOT retal 9:12. I will resolve this.
[18:21] <&TUDD> ???
[18:22] <@Macho_Mib> yes
[18:30] <Wailing> ?
[18:30] <Wailing> Hi Macho
[18:30] <@Macho_Mib> hi wailing
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[18:33] <&TUDD> You have ordered that 4,759 Berserkers be trained.
[18:33] <&TUDD> so what goingon with that , ??
[18:34] <&TUDD> -2,236,730 ...cost to train them ,,
[18:34] <@Macho_Mib> they are refusing to talk to me

[18:42] <Wailing> so what's to go with RoO
[18:42] <@Macho_Mib> do nothing
[18:42] <@Macho_Mib> retal'ing or answering them will escalate this to next age
[18:42] <Wailing> yeah but how are you handling it?
[18:43] <@Macho_Mib> I've tried to talk diplomacy but at the moment they aren't responding
[18:43] <@Macho_Mib> hard to get anything done when the other party straight up refuses to talk
[18:44] <Wailing> just read forum to see what's going on for first time in a while and looks like they will try to take it to next age anyway
[18:45] <@Macho_Mib> we dont know that for sure.. but one way to make sure that thehy carry this to next age is by responding to their action
[18:45] <@Macho_Mib> they will most likely carry the razes all the way till EoA
[18:45] <@Macho_Mib> expect that
[18:46] <Wailing> expected that from the time they finally found us
[18:46] <Wailing> and by the way how did they find us ?????
[18:46] <@Macho_Mib> no idea
[18:46] <@Macho_Mib> they said we had a leak
[18:46] <&TUDD> i dont know wailing .,.,
[18:46] <Wailing> because until a week ago they had no F**ken idea
[18:47] <@Macho_Mib> i doubt it.. I am sure that they already knew our location long before
[18:47] <Wailing> thinking the same here
[18:47] <@Macho_Mib> like two weeks ago, when we tagged WoU, they already knew that DD got involved in alliance
[18:48] <Wailing> if they knew then they would of hit into the last war just to screw us over the most
[18:48] <@Macho_Mib> god knows why they waited
[18:48] <&lost> They raze us once every 2 weeks all the age btw
[18:48] <&lost> and hi guys
[18:49] <Wailing> that was thier aim was to humiliate us the biggest way they can
[18:49] <&lost> and imho, the leak is Bishop
[18:49] <@Macho_Mib> hi lost
[18:49] <@Macho_Mib> i fail to see how they are humiliating us in anyway
[18:49] <&lost> It's the kind of ethic I expect from this guy
[18:50] <&lost> And there's absolutely no humiliation here
[18:50] <Wailing> yes but they were just doing a spread of razes to see if they got a reaction
[18:50] <&lost> well, not on our side
[18:50] <@Macho_Mib> well i made a post about the credit bug few weeks ago.. and bishop had to have accessed by account to fix it
[18:50] <@Macho_Mib> so for sure bishop knew about our location
[18:50] <@Macho_Mib> i dont know if it had anything to do with it
[18:51] <&lost> I also did have to ask for my credits in the same week-end as you macho
[18:51] <&lost> Needed the credit to pass to Indigo for sitting
[18:51] <&lost> Or was it to invite someone
[18:51] <Wailing> so they worked out a way to find us by causing a bug
[18:51] <&lost> No
[18:52] <&lost> Bishop don't have that much power
[18:52] <Wailing> as most players need to get credit at some stage
[18:52] <@Macho_Mib> i doubt bishop went that far to find our location
[18:52] <Wailing> you 100% SURE OF that with the new owners
[18:53] <&lost> And IF Bishop bug us, why did he bugges on ly our account?
[18:53] <&lost> Or the day we need to buy credits
[18:53] <&lost> that credit bug was a coincidence
[18:53] <@Macho_Mib> or they could've asked munk for our info
[18:53] <&lost> And the shop is related to our forum account, not our in-game one
[18:53] <@Macho_Mib> they are friends
[18:54] <Wailing> maybe he didn't once anyone loggeds credit they have to access your account to correct so then easy to find what kingdom you are
[18:54] <@Macho_Mib> i believe they knew our location long before the bug
[18:54] <&lost> Like I said, this isn't Lemon sweet n sour Bowtie who bought 40 credits
[18:54] <&lost> This is Takao
[18:55] <&lost> (my forum account
[18:55] <@Macho_Mib> they know takao is from DD lol
[18:55] <&lost> Yes, they know
[18:55] <@Macho_Mib> and they surely know Papa Legba is in DD as well
[18:56] <&lost> But this isn't logic at all to bug us to find our loc this way... cuz this isn't our in-game who buy it
[18:56] <&lost> but our public forum account
[18:57] <Wailing> yes but when I did post on forum I do it under different name and they new after two posts that I was in DD and I purposely did not post that i was realted in any way
[18:57] <&lost> This is more easier to locate us with our IP from last age and compare it with the loc is this age
[18:57] <&lost> You can create 28 accounts, if you keep the same IP... you're the same person
[18:58] <@Macho_Mib> which is why Bishop shouldn't even be playing this game
[19:01] <&lost> Indeed, no mods should play a game he moderates... nor have "friends" in this game

[21:53] <&Krynn> we are still tagged with the alliance a lot of do not want and we still have not tagged DD as was promised last age
[21:54] <&Krynn> ffs the last week?
[21:54] <&Krynn> BS
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[21:56] <&lost> All those who not want alliance didn't even come in #WoU to speak with the founder
[21:57] <&Krynn> could not be here .... had RL issues that needed attention
[21:57] <Starsfan> I was at work..
[21:57] <&lost> Macho will prolly make a post about the main goal of the aliiance.
[21:57] <&lost> But it's REALLY loose
[21:57] <Starsfan> you east coast people and your time zones >_< lol
[21:57] <&lost> more freindly based
[21:57] <&Krynn> what part of we do not tag alliance is he not getting
[21:57] <&lost> no allaince war, no minimum commitement
[21:58] <&Krynn> **** it, Robin let TUDD and I know where you land
[21:58] <&Krynn> I am done with the disrespect
[21:59] <&lost> Well, you disrespect all those open to discussion Krynn
[21:59] <&Krynn> all those have not been here over 11 years
[21:59] <&lost> Maybe you want all of us open to discussion to leave?
[22:00] <&lost> It goes both way Krynn
[22:00] <&lost> I've been playing game like Utopia for over 14 years now
[22:00] <&lost> And yes, I'm in here for only 2 years
[22:01] <@Robin> well, with all due respect, krynn and tudd are founders of DD, i am one who thinks that their wishes should hold some sway
[22:01] <&lost> At the expense of everyone else?
[22:01] <&Krynn> I read the forum
[22:02] <&Krynn> there is not a majority
[22:02] <&Krynn> after that then we start to hear .... well listen to what they say....
[22:02] <@Robin> why does it have to be at the expens eof anyone?
[22:02] <&Krynn> because the alliance was shot down once already
[22:02] <&lost> Krynn, this is why we invite you to discuss with Diammonds
[22:02] <&Krynn> so I call BS
[22:02] <&lost> We wanted to know all the goals about it
[22:03] <@Robin> no need to discuss, we will hear nothing new
[22:03] <&lost> and now we have the answer
[22:03] <&Krynn> and not setting our banner
[22:03] <@Robin> 'this alliance is to help each other at times when a kd is being unfairly picked on
[22:03] <&Krynn> I am so ****ing pissed, yes I am ready to leave over this
[22:04] <@Robin> ie: when the main ones want help we all have to jump, when we need help it will be against their old ally mates
[22:04] <@Robin> suddenly they will all be too big or too small or headin ginto war
[22:04] <&lost> You're getting emotional over a discussion right now. We (as a whole kd) haven't chose one way or another, we were trying to discuss and post our views
[22:04] <@Robin> tee shirt, film, book
[22:05] <&Krynn> the **** we havent
[22:05] <&Krynn> the god damn KD id tagged
[22:05] <@Robin> krynn, calm down mate
[22:05] <@Robin> swearing is never right
[22:05] <&lost> The alliance itself is new and in discussion
[22:06] <@Robin> if you want to vent then catch me on skype now
[22:06] <&Krynn> we are tagged alliance
[22:06] <&Krynn> against the majority
[22:06] <&lost> No one has voted, we were discussing
[22:06] <&Krynn> not doing this, your right. I do not want to be all upset
[22:06] <&lost> we'll cast a vote once the discussion will be over
[22:07] <&Krynn> I am done with this discussion
[22:07] <&Krynn> we have an alliance we (I) leave
[22:08] <&lost> Everything in life isn't black or white
[22:08] <&Krynn> if we are not tagged DD very soon, Tonight, I leave before EoA
[22:09] <&lost> Krynn, I'll leave before you leave, this isn't "my" kingdom after all.
[22:10] <&lost> I just wanted you to respect a democratic discusion, to see the details about the alliance, then we'll cast a vote and we'll respect the majority

22:17] <@Lilika> why are you leaving?
[22:17] <@Robin> later all
[22:17] <@Robin> ^^
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[22:17] <&Krynn> lookimg fpr the program robin
[22:18] <@Lilika> Can you nevver have an age where someone doesn't leave?
[22:18] <@Lilika> and 5 milllion?
[22:18] <@Lilika> I thought I had a lot
[22:18] <&Krynn> not when you do not keep promises, and step on the majority
[22:18] <&Krynn> and disrespect the core
[22:19] <@Lilika> Lost said he would take a vote
[22:19] <@Lilika> I think tha is fair
[22:19] <&lost> Lilika : mainly cuz Macho and I want a democratic process about the alliance, while Krynn and Robin don,t want to discuss and say no right away without knowing the detail... :(
[22:19] <&Krynn> that is what I was told about the forum post
[22:20] <&Krynn> but that did not give the answer that he wanted, so now we do it again until we agree to have an alliance
[22:20] <@Lilika> we have not had good luck with alliances, I know but a more formal vote I think is fair
[22:20] <&lost> The forum posted wasn't a yes or no thread Krynn
[22:20] <&Krynn> that is what he told me
[22:21] <@Lilika> that post is several people responding several times
[22:21] <&lost> You say no with eyes blinded and ear plug Krynn. Let Macho fulfilled his promise, he'll keep it
[22:21] <&Krynn> and even with a vote 3 are leaving if there is an alliance
[22:22] <&Krynn> and prolly more
[22:22] <&lost> You can even go talk yourself in #WoU with Diamond
[22:22] <&Krynn> I don't care. Could be a great guy
[22:22] <&lost> This isn't a Sparta or RoR kind of alliance at all
[22:23] <&Krynn> WE DO NOT TAG ALLIANCE
[22:23] <&lost> *RoO
[22:23] <&Krynn> want to befriend them great
[22:23] <&Krynn> we do not tag as an alliance
[22:25] <&Krynn> I am sick of people trying to build a better mouse trap. this has been done, been played with. and been rejected
[22:25] <&Krynn> many times over
[22:25] <&Krynn> when I say we are done with this I am not saying take a bloody vote
[22:25] <&Krynn> I am say NO
[22:27] <@Lilika> we know but if we take a vote, people can decide to stay or no baed on that
[22:27] <&Krynn> ok
[22:28] <&lost> Krynn, lemme see if the 3 letters is a requirement, as it's nothing like alliance tbh, more a friendship without mandatory commitement.
[22:28] <&Krynn> also we were promised that we would tag up DD a few weeks before EoA and it was not done, and i GOT SUNSHINE BLOWEN UP MY ASS LAST NIGHT ABOUT IT
[22:29] <&Krynn> STILL NOT DONE
[22:29] <&lost> it could help us as well to find new recruits and full this kd with 25 provinces
[22:29] <&Krynn> damn caps
[22:32] <&Krynn> we made it 50 ages, better than any out there
[22:32] <&Krynn> maybe robin is right
[22:33] <&Krynn> shut it down and move on
[22:33] <Bry> does anyone even know
[22:33] <&Krynn> founders and core being ignored, not running the banner, running under different names
[22:33] <Bry> the # of people that are 100% for the alliance
[22:34] <&Krynn> and now tagging up as an alliance
[22:34] <Bry> because i dont care and no alliance
[22:34] <&Krynn> too much
[22:34] <Bry> is probly 80% of the kd
[22:34] <Bry> maybe 4 tops want an alliance
[22:34] <Bry> i dont knwo why founders of the kingdom are somewhat being fored out
[22:35] <Bry> if you want to be in this alliance leave and make your own kd
[22:35] <Bry> anyways that will be my weekly rant
[22:36] <Bry> im going to head to bed
[22:36] <&Krynn> g'night
[22:36] <Bry> nn
[22:36] <Starsfan> bry was on a rant?
[22:36] <Starsfan> did I miss something? lol
[22:36] <Bry> it was a quick one
[22:36] <Bry> then i dot dc'd and lost all my momentem
[22:37] <Starsfan> I didn't even see it lol
[22:37] <&Krynn> still lookinmg
[22:37] <Bry> lol
[22:37] <&lost> I know you are one of the founders, but looking at our actual core, saying no without discussion would be ignoring Sarine, Tigress, Macho, Raven, Starsfan (which is kinda active), PIllius etc.
[22:37] <Bry> my "rants" arent neccisarly long
[22:37] <&lost> About the banner and name, you know why we did it
[22:37] <Bry> just typed in quick succession
[22:37] <Starsfan> huh.
[22:38] <&lost> EoA is 9 days away from here
[22:38] <Starsfan> want to give me the summary of what you were ranting about in PM bry? lol
[22:38] <&Krynn> Macho was put in to run wars, not change the KD and it's founding
[22:40] <&lost> And I was put in here cuz of a prank. :)
[22:41] <&Krynn> no, your activity and possitive out look
[22:41] <&Macho> hello
[22:41] <&Macho> i'm back
[22:41] <&Macho> ok first all, about the alliance
[22:41] <&lost> Seriously Krynn, I pranked Abi
[22:42] <&Macho> krynn, it was YOUR suggestion that alliance was a KINGDOM-WIDE decision
[22:42] <&Macho> and it was YOU who demanded a kingdom wide discussion
[22:42] <&Macho> i am doing exactly that
[22:42] <&Macho> what is your problem with that?
[22:43] <&Krynn> no your not, your listening to the whys we do not want it then trying to manipulate agreements with them to make it work here
[22:43] <&Macho> I am not manipulating anything
[22:43] <&Krynn> bottom line is I do not want DD or myself connected to an alliance in any way
[22:43] <&Krynn> and certinally not bloody tagged up
[22:44] <&Macho> I saw the arguments against the alliance, and I setup chat session to get some questions answered that may possibly alleviate the argument against it
[22:44] <&Krynn> so, your going to kill DD and run an alliance
[22:44] <&Macho> next time, I will try to put the alliance up to a vote
[22:44] <&Macho> seeing both sides
[22:44] <&Krynn> if you have the votes then mpre power to ya
[22:44] <&Macho> with no unanswered questions
[22:45] <&Krynn> Abi is all but gone, TUDD Robin and I are out with an alliance
[22:45] <&Macho> how am I killing DD?
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[22:46] <&Krynn> not putting up a banner to follow in the arcives, to reneming the kingdom DD and tagging us with an alliance
[22:46] <&Krynn> that is killing DD
[22:46] <&Macho> i promised you yesterday that I will put the banner up sometime this week
[22:46] <&Macho> through PM
[22:46] <&Krynn> as well as not hearing the 3 of us
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[22:46] <&Macho> I was hearing the three of you, that is why i had people get involved in discussion
[22:47] <&Macho> are you impling that hearing the three of you means I have to just go with whatever you three have to say?
[22:47] <&Macho> you are telling me to run the kingdom however you want
[22:47] <&Macho> you might as well take the monarchy is thats what you want
[22:47] <&Krynn> and I I have seen you do with the "discussion" is trying to change minds about it or working a deal with them to make it change here
[22:47] <ChuckNorris> We respect the founders of this aliiance Krynn, but no one, even not the leaderships should have a veto
[22:48] <ChuckNorris> Unless when in war with orders posted
[22:48] <ChuckNorris> but strat can be discussed as a whole
[22:48] <ChuckNorris> *this kingdom
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[22:48] <&Macho> In the discussion, the opposition put up their side of argument, the "for-alliance" side put up their side
[22:48] <&Macho> no manipulation
[22:49] <&Krynn> 1) well maybe we do not have to tag, 2) well maybe we wont have alliance wars. 3) maybe.....
[22:49] <&Krynn> BS
[22:49] <&Macho> we wont have alliance wars lol
[22:50] <lost> I told you Krynn, it's a loose alliance based on frienship without mandatory commitement
[22:51] <&Krynn> then why tag up at all
[22:51] <&Krynn> just be friends
[22:51] <&Macho> your biggest concern was that you didnt want the kd to be involved in other kingdom's mess
[22:52] <&Macho> no obligation, no commitment
[22:52] <&Krynn> and no tagging
[22:52] <&Macho> but I won't try to sway you here
[22:52] <&Macho> I'll make a final post in the forum about what was exchanged in the meeting today
[22:52] <&Krynn> and no shouting ot in PMz "our alliance will kick your ass
[22:53] <&Krynn> and you can not promise some nub will not do that
[22:53] <lost> ^^
[22:53] <lost> true that
[22:53] <&Macho> done
[22:54] <Bry> buit i just bought a MEGAphone
[22:54] <&Krynn> Current kingdom is Rowntrees Randoms WoU PSO (2:8)
[22:54] <&Krynn> whats done?
[22:54] <Bry> :'(
[22:54] <&Macho> i was referring you saying no shout outs in PMs
[22:55] <&Krynn> ahh
[22:55] <lost> But I'm sure the no tag won't be a problem
[22:55] <&Krynn> post rules about it all you want, it WILL happen
[22:55] <lost> I'll discuss it with Diamonds when he'll be back online
[22:56] <Bry> to be fair tho
[22:56] <Bry> one more side note before i leave
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[22:56] <Bry> there arent a lot of ****ty kingdoms to get free land off
[22:56] <Bry> if were in an alliance
[22:56] <lost> will it be blank again?
[22:56] <Bry> take away alot of our options to grow
[22:57] <&Macho> there are still plenty of kingdoms like the kd we just warred
[22:57] <sarine> wait what
[22:57] <sarine> robin left?
[22:57] <Bry> the kd we just wared is invited into the alliance
[22:57] <Bry> thats like the target demographic
[22:57] <&Macho> and they refused
[22:57] <Bry> which is the same demoragpic i pray on when looking for free land
[22:57] <Starsfan> also as I understood it this is a very loose arrangement
[22:58] <Starsfan> Macho said in the forums we could have wars against other KD, I don't see why randoms would be banned.
[22:58] <lost> Yeah, you have a point Bry, but it's very loose, we can even war each other
[22:58] <Bry> so
[22:58] <Bry> they way i see it
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[22:59] <Bry> the only thing the alliance if for
[22:59] <Bry> is to counter ****play
[22:59] <lost> Yup
[22:59] <lost> And, we can also use it as a recruitement tool
[22:59] <lost> and exchange on strategies
[22:59] <Bry> as long as they dont cry when i take there land

[Pillz]

23:14] <sarine> i don't disagree
[23:14] <&Macho> what difference does it make whether we tag up 1 week or 1 month before eoa?
[23:15] <&Macho> isn't the whole point to finish the age under the dd banner?
[23:15] <sarine> but i also trust macho's judgment
[23:15] <sarine> i'm also a newbie, so DD isn't something i'm nearly as attached to, i guess
[23:15] <&lost> Your kd isn't what it was 50 ages back. And your kd mates as well. I may look to lean toward the alliance, but I'm still undeceided. I only want to make sure there's a DISCUSSION, not based on POSITION but on the PROS an CONS. Then after the debate and the details of the deal, we take a vote
[23:15] <&Krynn> makes a difference to thiose of us who have fought to keep that name and banner going for 49 stright ages. and your total lack of concern for that achivment is quite insulting
[23:16] <&Macho> not a lack of concern, I'm just trying to figure out your reasoning
[23:16] <&Krynn> well, there it is
[23:16] <Raven> we may not be the same but we are still here and some people forget that I think
[23:17] <&lost> We won't forget who we are
[23:17] <&Krynn> and what hurts is that it seems our present leadrship are the ones forgeting
[23:18] <&lost> I said to abi (or macho?) last age that I wouldn't play under another kd than DD
[23:18] <&lost> Before I made my decision to stay with a less time consuming role
[23:18] <&lost> and lol about the less time consuming role
[23:19] <&lost> :P
[23:20] <&Krynn> Current kingdom is Rowntrees Randoms WoU PSO (2:8)
[23:20] <Raven> whats WoU POS?
[23:20] <&Krynn> **** it I tried
[23:20] <&Krynn> going to bed
[23:21] <Starsfan> PSO = please stay out
[23:21] <&lost> ^^
[23:21] <Starsfan> typical tag for a KD in war
[23:21] <&Krynn> it is the alliance tag, WoU
[23:21] <&lost> WoU is the alliance thing we are speaking
[23:21] <&lost> or we try at least
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[23:22] <&lost> And this is not at all confirmed
[23:22] <&lost> we can step back anytime
[23:22] <Raven> ok so when was the vote, because I dont remembering seeing one, and from the discussion I read it looks like a majority said no.... so why are we tagged up?
[23:23] <&lost> it was a temporary decision the time we set up a discussion
[23:23] <&lost> then a vote
[23:23] <Raven> if its not confirmed then we should not be tagged up
[23:23] <&lost> but the fact is that we don't really have a discussion about it.
[23:23] <&lost> Krynn want a veto on it
[23:23] <&lost> Robin as well
[23:24] <&lost> And only considering a discussion was apparently an offense big enough for Robin to quit
[23:25] <Raven> there is a discussion in the forums and more then robin and krynn vetoed it
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[23:25] <&lost> The discussion is more based on position and experience.
[23:25] <&lost> Macho organized a meeting with the founder this evening
[23:26] <&lost> he'll post a recap of the meeting
[23:26] <Raven> well I would not take being called retarded lightly either but I haven't yet seen the comment
[23:26] <&lost> He's not being called a retard
[23:26] <&lost> *he wasn't
[23:28] <Raven> im assuming it was deleted
[23:28] <&lost> it was an interpretation on a context where 2 persons in the kd where telling him it was ok to have a discussion while his arguments were : x people is gonna leave if there's an alliance, no said the same if there isn't
[23:29] <&lost> in my point of view it's kinda like : let's discuss together, I'll aim a gun in your direction
[23:29] <&lost> no, it's in IRC
[23:30] <Raven> my stuff dont save, so I cant see it then...
[23:32] <&lost> I don't want to post the log to not offend anyone else (and the exchange were in fact kinda respectful).
[23:33] <&lost> But I can post my "discussion" with krynn of a few minutes ago.
[23:33] <&lost> I'm a frenhie, so my english is more direct
[23:33] <Raven> I don't like alliances too much BS, we get ourselves into enough **** and to have to be at someones side to clean up there **** to is a stretch.
[23:34] <&lost> This isn't an alliance like in the old days
[23:34] <&lost> We don't even have commitment needed
[23:35] <&lost> I see it more like a hand of friendship between 4-6 kds (we have more CF than that) and a way to find active recruit to fill our kd to 25 provs
[23:35] <&lost> We can even war each others
[23:36] <&lost> It's more to deal against ****play, but like I said, we aren't even in obligation to commit ourselves
[23:36] <Raven> so that sounds even more exciting, the blind leading the blind.... we can still set up "friendly" wars with out the extra bs....
[23:40] <&lost> Yes, but having access to a channel with lots of players which aren't mostly badass (read #tactics), we can finally get to a more organized, active, victorious kd.
[23:40] <&lost> Instead of waiting a whole age to recruit one more Starsfan and Bry
[23:41] <&lost> We'll speak with the founder as soon as he shown up to see if the tagging is necessary
[23:43] <&lost> Which would lead in us having all the advantage about recruitment on our side without showing as their friend (outside the CF)
[23:44] <Raven> so it sounds like you guys already made up your minds
[23:44] <&lost> Nope
[23:44] <&lost> Absolutely not
[23:44] <&lost> I point you the advantages
[23:44] <&lost> and I'm saying than most of the arguments against alliance posted isn't related to this one...
[23:45] <Raven> our name being already tagged says other wise.... :/
[23:45] <&lost> People are taking POSITION based on past experience when there was loads of alliance in this game
[23:45] <&lost> Macho did it 2 weeks ago btw
[23:45] <&lost> when RoO razed us
[23:45] <&lost> me in fact
[23:46] <&lost> Did you see a difference so far?
[23:46] <&lost> Macho will make a post later about the convo we had in the #WoU channel
[23:47] <&lost> you can go there if you wanna speak with Diamonds, the founder
[23:47] <Raven> i work 2 jobs I dont log in to check our name base.....
[23:47] <&lost> And we'll take a vote
[23:47] <&lost> and the majority will win
[23:47] <&lost> it's as simple as that
[23:49] <Raven> and just like your parents when they tell you no to something its because we have already been there done that...... but you younger ones think you know better do it anyways then 9 time out of 10 who was right.....
[23:49] <&lost> My parents didn't want me to take a job far away from here.
[23:50] <&lost> I go against them
[23:50] <Bry_> "Alliance" is a bad term for what is being proposed
[23:50] <&lost> I got it (the job), make $$$, take experience to register to university and now I have a better job than before
[23:51] <&lost> Like I said earlier, there's nothing black or white in life
[23:51] <Bry_> Take the top 20kds or so, there all entertwined, they all know each other have a huge pool of players work together in areas and fight in other areas
[23:52] <Bry_> The bottom is completely unknown
[23:52] <Bry_> The alliance as I see it is more of a way to bring a goup of kds and players together in the same fashion
[23:53] <&lost> If I listened to my parents, I'd still have a job of assistant manager in a convenient store.
[23:53] <Bry_> Frankly if we can war each other and I'm allowed to hit the other kds for land all age, it's not an "alliance"
[23:53] <&lost> And what Bry said
[23:53] <Bry_> At least not one that I ever herd of
[23:54] <&lost> Bry, we'll be 4-6 kds maximum
[23:54] <&lost> we'll most likely cf most of them
[23:54] <&lost> The founder don't want it large
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[00:13] <moms> my 2 cents trying to catch up on chat.... 1) maybe the words need to be changed. alliance is an established concept in the game. i know it is just semantics but maybe we need to not call it an alliance if it truly isn't like alliances of old, which is what I'm reading.
[00:13] <moms> 2 - we are all adults. (at least in age, not always actions) but we all have our own hot topic issues. the R word is one of mine. it should not be used as an insult (neither should gay). if I saw where someone was being called "a retard" which was how Robin felt, I would be in a rage. I didn't see it so I can't really comment other than to say if I expect better of my team and don't...
[00:13] <moms> ...want to be part of a group that finds that acceptable.
[00:15] <moms> anyone need runes?
[00:16] <Raven> if no one needs you can soot them my way
[00:17] <moms> i have like 50k to spare - how many would you like?
[00:18] <moms> i sent 50k
[00:19] <moms> use what you want. keep 'em if you want. send them back or send them to someone else. what ever makes you happy, doll
[00:19] <Starsfan> moms I think you hit it on the head
[00:19] <moms> about "alliance"?
[00:19] <Starsfan> there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for any harassment, perceived or real
[00:19] <moms> oh ok
[00:19] <moms> good :)
[00:19] <Starsfan> the alliance I'm more or less indifferent on
[00:20] <Starsfan> although i think that it could be a very positive thing if done right.
[00:20] <Raven> dont matter hun, i have a crap load just waiting to get out cf to use them lol
[00:20] <sarine> ^what starsfan said (re: harassment)
[00:20] <sarine> (i'm in and out, so i'm not following too much)
[00:20] <sarine> (allergies are a trip)
[00:20] <&lost> And moms : no one used the R words, it was an interpretation
[00:22] <Starsfan> no lost, someone did
[00:22] <moms> all I have to go on is my discussion with him on FB. he felt he was called retarded. that had to come from somewhere. even if no one said "robin, you are a retard" what ever was said, what he took away from it was that he was called retarded. that makes me very sad.
[00:22] <Starsfan> I saw it.. just can't remember who threw it out there
[00:22] <Starsfan> and it might not have been "so and so is a retard"
[00:23] <Starsfan> but it was for sure something along the lines of "what that person is doing is retarded"
[00:23] <moms> i think it was along the lines of 'if you think ____ you are retarded'
[00:23] <Starsfan> yeah.
[00:23] <moms> ^^
[00:23] <&lost> I'm in here 24/24
[00:23] <moms> and if you know the other person thinks _____, then you are kind of calling them retarded
[00:23] <&lost> I have all the logs for most of the age
[00:24] <Raven> you need a hobby dude
[00:24] <&lost> lol
[00:24] <&lost> IRC is open 24/24
[00:24] <&lost> I can back read it if it's important
[00:24] <moms> i've tried to be clear that i'm only going by what he has said about how he felt about it. i didn't see it. i just know it makes me sad that he felt a teammate called him retarded
[00:24] <&lost> it was important, so I back read the log
[00:25] <&lost> Robin is one of the founder of this kd
[00:25] <&lost> along with krynn and tudd
[00:26] <&lost> They didn't wanted an alliance and threaten to quit if there was one
[00:26] <&lost> while no one threaten to quit of if there wasn't one
[00:28] <&lost> They feel like only discussing about it was a disrespect for them
[00:28] <Starsfan> I know that's Krynn's big deal lost
[00:29] <Starsfan> but I don't think we should diminish the fact that Robin stated his reasons for leaving as being the language which was used in this chat.
[00:30] <moms> ^^
[00:31] <&lost> To summaraize it, we have 3 peoples in the kd who wants a veto on decisions, while Macho and I (and prolly the majority in our kd) want a democratic issue.
[00:32] <&lost> Like I said, I back read the whole last 2 days
[00:32] <&lost> since there was a problem in our kd
[00:33] <&lost> It's our job, Macho and I, to resolve such thing.
[00:33] <&lost> In the last 2 days, I haven't see anything
[00:36] <&lost> And just to make sure I haven't missed anything, I just did a ctrl+f in my logs
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[00:37] <&lost> the last one saying the word retard was Bry while were in war. It was about the the constant war spoils of our ennemy
[00:43] <&Macho> lol i got so caught up in this discussion, I forgot that I actually had a province to manage
[00:50] <moms> :)

[00:50] <Starsfan> why would they raze the new province
[00:51] <Starsfan> a guy who created a week ago and logs in once a day. They want to ruin his experience of playing this game so he quits and never comes back?
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[00:54] <&Macho> they want the new guy to defect
[00:54] <&Macho> or delete
[00:54] <moms> i'm guessing yes
[00:54] <&Macho> their goal is one thing - get as many pepole to leave our kd
[00:54] <&lost> ^^
[00:55] <Starsfan> their goal is to stave off the crippling depression they feel in their real lives by talking and acting big online
[00:55] <&lost> that too
[00:55] <&lost> lol
[00:55] <Starsfan> ****ing punks
[00:56] <&lost> But, one thing I agree with them, we haven't deal with them in the right way at the start of the conflict and let escalated it
[00:56] <&lost> it would have been so easy to get rid of it
[00:57] <sarine> something i learned being part of leadership in an MMO is that pride is the worst at handling situations and disagreements and problems
[00:57] <sarine> i'm still learning how not to be prideful
[00:57] <sarine> that was a bad time
[00:57] <&lost> ego wars on the internet is never good, you'll always find people with no life to cripple the fun you get in a game
[00:58] <&Macho> let RoO have their fun. age is over in a week, most kingdoms are in FSU mode anyway
[00:59] <&Macho> the worst possible thing to do is to retaliate
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[01:01] <&Macho> hmm with robin gone, all the War Summary threads disappeared from the forum
[01:01] <&Macho> i was wondering why the forum looked different
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03[01:26] * Macho changes topic to '12 We switch to Normal on March 7 for 12-24 hours.4 DO NOTHING AGAINST 9:12. DON'T ANSWER MESSAGE. DON'T POST IN PUBLIC FORUM. Thanks.'
[01:27] <&lost> Well, I deleted some of the oldest ones
[01:27] <&lost> and sticked some of the topics in the last war while Starsfan was sitting you
[01:27] <&Macho> ok
[01:28] <&lost> But Robin must have deleted his own thread before leaving
[01:28] <&lost> he can do it, he started them

[19:58] <&Krynn> and please let me know what you are doing with 9:12
[19:58] <@Macho_Mib> bad timing
[19:59] <@Macho_Mib> what im doing is not escalating problem any further
[19:59] <&Krynn> thats what PMz are for
[20:00] <&Krynn> that is working out well as far as I seen. no BS in the forums from us.
[20:00] <&Krynn> good job team
[20:00] <&lost> All I can say on my side : don't expect another war before the EoA, unless you don't care and just want to war anyway.
[20:00] <&lost> Yeah, I'm proud of everyone in here about this
[20:01] <&Krynn> whats another lost war, if it is a good war take it
[20:01] <@Macho_Mib> oh, well I will strive for another war, but at the same time get some sort of deal done with RoO
[20:02] <@Macho_Mib> my goal is to a permanent NAP with RoO and sheister starting next age
[20:03] <&Krynn> wont be easy since their goal is to disban us
[20:06] <@Macho_Mib> I am phenomenal at negotiations and term-dealing
[20:07] <@Macho_Mib> watch the magic unfold
[20:07] <@Macho_Mib> stay tuned
[20:07] <BlckTigress753> lol oh we shall haha
[20:16] <&Krynn> would have been over last age if I had not been ****ed over
[20:17] <&Krynn> I need a shower
[20:17] <&Krynn> a very painful process
[20:18] <&Krynn> this totally sux

[20:18] <Raven> well see you all next age..... cant explore, cant dice..... not allowed to retal, not allowed to opp..... just allowed to sit here and take it up the ass with no lube..... yep yep
[20:20] <@Macho_Mib> im working to get a war
[20:26] <Raven> what good does that do for me, they hit in war or not.... cant help your war if im back down to 300 acres and hurting for ****....
[20:27] <~Abi> working to get a ****ing war???
[20:27] <~Abi> you should be working to protect your ****ing people
[20:27] <Raven> **** dont make any sense dude, you allow them to continue to smack the **** out of us one by one and sit back and do nothing in return.....
[20:28] <~Abi> stuck in eow CF for four ****ing days getting razed down.. and then we come out into ****ing fort
[20:28] <Raven> all you say is your gonna fix it and well like iv said before they are not gonna agree to ****
[20:28] <~Abi> we can't hit back.. we can't dice.. we can't explore.. so you're basically asking us to sit and get ****ing killed?
[20:28] <Raven> they laugh at you in the forums, they dont give 2 ****s what you say
[20:28] <Raven> so we will just sit here getting beat down while " you work it out"
[20:29] <~Abi> ???
[20:29] <~Abi> anything?
[20:29] <~Abi> or should I just hit delete now?
[20:29] <&TUDD> you better not abi i ben v waiting your return ,,
[20:30] <~Abi> what return?
[20:30] <~Abi> I got **** all to return to
[20:30] <&TUDD> to vocally particip[ating, !!
[20:31] <@Macho_Mib> hi abi
[20:31] <~Abi> hi abi???
[20:31] <@Macho_Mib> how are you
[20:31] <~Abi> that's your opener?
[20:31] <@Macho_Mib> yes
[20:31] <~Abi> I think I've made it quite ****ing clear how I am
[20:31] <@Macho_Mib> it's been long
[20:31] <~Abi> I'm ****ed
[20:31] <~Abi> 266 acres.. no peasnats.. no income.. no food
[20:31] <~Abi> you tell me how I am
[20:32] <@Macho_Mib> i wasnt talking about your prov
[20:32] <@Macho_Mib> but ok
[20:32] <~Abi> 14hour day yesterday and then this
[20:33] <@Macho_Mib> ok we have 2 choices - retal them back, "stand up for the kd", and continue to hide and get this thing going for however unforeseeable future you see left of this game
[20:33] <@Macho_Mib> and save our egos
[20:33] <@Macho_Mib> and completely wreck the possibility of any kind of reconciliation
[20:34] <@Macho_Mib> or you can all wait and let me try resolving it
[20:34] <@Macho_Mib> if you care so much more about how "fierce" of warriors we are, by all means retal
[20:34] <@Macho_Mib> i wont get involved in this kd after this age
[20:34] <@Macho_Mib> you put me in thi sposition to lead
[20:34] <@Macho_Mib> then let me ****ing lead and do **** the way i do
[20:35] <&TUDD> and on that note im heading back up will see folks tommoorow,,
[20:36] <~Abi> wait and let you try to resolve it?
[20:36] <&TUDD> abi you take care raven see you when ,,, everyone else here see you either tommorow of the next ,,
[20:36] <Raven> Korp Korp is offline Dear Friend Korp's Avatar Join Date Jul 2008 Posts 6,787 I like how the "new monarch" thinks he dont need to take the kingdoms baggage and everything should be forgotten.
[20:36] <~Abi> you mean "die" while you try to resolve it
[20:36] <@Macho_Mib> yes
[20:38] <~Abi> wow
[20:38] <Raven> the sarcasm in this post just reeks or resolution......
[20:38] <~Abi> you just asked a province in your ingdom to die while you sort this out
[20:38] <@Macho_Mib> abi, you've been MIA for however days it's been, you come in here and insult me without knowing **** about what I've been doing behind the scene
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[20:40] <Raven> well that fact is we are taking hit which either one you havent solved ****.... or 2 with out your KD being told you agreed to an amount of acres they could take or destroy to end this like in the original agreement and if that happened im gonna be more then pissed
[20:40] <@Macho_Mib> Don't come here acting as if the reason why we are in this **** in the first place is due to my competence and blaming me for unable to resolve things in 3 days for soemthing that's been going on for 3 months
[20:41] <@Macho_Mib> incompetence*
[20:41] <@Macho_Mib> so your way of resolving is hitting back and op'ing?
[20:41] <@Macho_Mib> and carrying this to next age?
[20:42] <@Macho_Mib> that it will somehow stop them from hitting us any less harder than they are doing right now?
[20:42] <Raven> i dont give a **** if it goes on till the game ends permanently
[20:43] <@Macho_Mib> then you obviously dont give a **** about this kingdom
[20:43] <Raven> so im to assume thats what you did then
[20:43] <Raven> you agreed to give them acres with out letting us know
[20:43] <@Macho_Mib> wut?
[20:43] <@Macho_Mib> i didnt agree to **** wtf r u talking about?
[20:44] <Raven> why else are they allowed to hit us while we arnt allowed to hit back mean while being told your working it out.....
[20:44] <~Abi> I'm 850 acres down.. whatever you're doing behind the scenes isn't having much effect
[20:45] <~Abi> and now you just ased me to give up
[20:45] <~Abi> you asked someone in your ingdom to just sit and get killed
[20:45] <@Macho_Mib> no, you are free to hit others
[20:45] <@Macho_Mib> there are targets outside of RoO, you know
[20:46] <@Macho_Mib> i never said "don't hit anyone"
[20:46] <@Macho_Mib> nor did I say don't explore
[20:46] <@Robin> aaaand the kd is returning to normality :D
[20:46] <@Robin> mornaftereve all
[20:46] <~Abi> dude.. we're in fortified.. straight out of EoW CF
[20:46] <~Abi> how exactly do you expect someone being razed down to explore?
[20:46] <@Macho_Mib> we were in normal for 24 hours
[20:46] <@Macho_Mib> before we went into fort
[20:47] <@Macho_Mib> we only entered fort like 4 hours ago
[20:47] <~Abi> oh right.. so my bad for having to do a 14 hour day in Milton Keynes then
[20:47] <Raven> ohhhh thats right, now were in fort I can explore at 65 per acre accumulating a whole 35 acres to replace the 30 or 40 im now down... yep thats solved it all thanks Macho I dont know why i didnt think of that
[20:48] <Raven> 300 or 400
[20:48] <@Macho_Mib> ffs
[20:48] <@Macho_Mib> retal by all means
[20:48] <@Macho_Mib> leave me out of this
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[20:48] <~Abi> Noble Lady Bela, you abandoned your province of Cherry Jelly Saxophone (2:8), and now it is but dust.You may found a new province here, and start anew.
[20:49] <Raven> if ima die im gonna die by the sword not die like a *****
[20:49] <~Abi> won't give them the satisfaction
[20:49] <~Abi> If the order is to die. then I die
[20:50] <~Abi> never in all the years have I seen a monarch tell a kingdom member to just die
[20:50] <~Abi> but if that's the way it has to be.. fine
[20:50] <~Abi> I'm done
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[20:51] <Raven> He says I dont care about the KD because id rather fight....... but he just asked his Kingdom to keep dying for **** that wont be solved
[20:52] <Raven> the asshole spent 4 years tormenting a girl till she quit
[20:52] <Raven> how do you not take that into account
[20:52] <Starsfan> ??
[20:52] <Raven> into the type of people you are dealing with
[20:53] <Starsfan> oh are we talking about the trolls again that are razing us?
[20:53] <~Abi> kind of
[20:53] <Starsfan> oh hello abi, nice to meet you
[20:53] <~Abi> Macho just told me that I should just sit and take hits until I die
[20:53] <Raven> brb im at work
[20:53] <~Abi> so I abandoned
[20:53] <Starsfan> ah
[20:54] <@Robin> 3 down....
[20:55] <@Robin> good evening abi dear
[20:55] <~Abi> hey Robin
[20:55] <@Robin> yes it has gone a wee bit pete tong
[20:56] <&lost> Ok, would you better us to say : Let's fight guys 5x time bigger than us that we can't harm in any way?
[20:56] <@Robin> macho is trying his best to reason with the trolls but i feel he is wasting his time
[20:56] <@Robin> they are called trolls for a very good reason
[20:57] <&lost> And they are friend with all the top 10 kd...
[20:57] <&lost> We should have better not let escalate that last age.
[20:58] <~Abi> so I'm supposed to accept an order to sit and take hits till I die lost?
[20:58] <Raven> ok lost I again bring up the fact that a few of them trolled a girl for 3 years to make her quit and prided themselves on it
[20:59] <&lost> Now, DD has trolls with no life dreaming to disband with an erection all night long
[20:59] <Raven> to tell you the kind of people we are dealing with
[21:00] <&lost> I know what kind of people we are dealing with
[21:00] <&lost> we had deal on the table last age
[21:00] <&lost> We refused them all.
[21:00] <Raven> they mock macho in the forums, he is really wasting his time..... I get hes trying but it aint working as they pick us off one by one
[21:01] <Raven> the plan should of been to gown the hell out of 6 or 8 of us and take them out
[21:03] <&lost> No, a single apologize would have suffice at some point, or 5k acres (while we had 25k + in our pool), but Abi deletion was out of consideration
[21:03] <&lost> Even earlier, 5x as retals were proposed
[21:03] <BlckTigress753> ok first of all, I don't see anyone mocking Macho in the forums....so apparently y'all are reading something I'm not
[21:03] <&lost> *5 hits
[21:04] <Raven> and as far as im concerned we rightfully turned them down. we had no issue with any of them till they took on one assholes problem to because they were board
[21:04] <BlckTigress753> second, Macho NEVER said to just take hits and die
[21:04] <BlckTigress753> third, everyone's stupid tissy fits are what got us into this mess in teh first place
[21:04] <@Robin> [00:07] Abi you mean "die" while you try to resolve it
[21:04] <BlckTigress753> fourth, I had already chosen to stay with this kingdom, but honestly now...I'm not sure I want to bother given the attitudes I am seeing
[21:04] <@Robin> [00:07] Macho_Mib yes
[21:04] <Raven> 19:06 Abi you mean "die" while you try to resolve it 19:06 Macho_Mib yes
[21:05] <&lost> The no retals, no post in forum orders is to show them we don't care about their behavior
[21:05] <BlckTigress753> 19:15 Abi you asked someone in your ingdom to just sit and get killed 19:15 Macho_Mib no, you are free to hit others 19:15 Macho_Mib there are targets outside of RoO, you know 19:16 Macho_Mib i never said "don't hit anyone" 19:16 Macho_Mib nor did I say don't explore
[21:05] <Raven> this **** began with your ass we ****ing stood up for you
[21:05] <&lost> That's the only option now for DD, unless we become tomorrow a top 10 kds fully active and scary with lot of relation
[21:06] <@Robin> *ducks*
[21:06] <BlckTigress753> yea Raven, i know. and I've already offered my entire fat province
[21:06] <BlckTigress753> I will HAPPILY delete
[21:06] <Raven> if anyone should be killed off its your ass
[21:06] <BlckTigress753> if it solves this problem, I'm more than ready to never see DD again
[21:06] <BlckTigress753> my playing this game is not worth everyone else being miserable
[21:06] <@Robin> i already told krynn that i think DD has run it;s course, before this lot began
[21:07] <BlckTigress753> I started this, and have said from the VERY get-go, that I would happily take any hits or deletions if it would make this all go away
[21:08] <@Robin> i offered my prov as well but these trolls do not care about the game, they only turn up to find a kd to target for an age or so until they sicken them off
[21:08] <&lost> In fact, Tigress you haven't started this at all
[21:08] <&lost> You don't have to feel guilty
[21:08] <&lost> you made a bad hit, which happen to everyone every age
[21:08] <@Robin> they 'pride' themselve son the kds they have forced to disband yet bishop still supports them
[21:08] <BlckTigress753> well I do feel guilty and always have
[21:09] <@Robin> they take prid ein admitting that they hounded a female for 10 ages until she quit
[21:09] <&lost> You don't have to, Tigress
06[21:09] * &lost higs Tigress
[21:09] <&lost> *hugs
[21:09] <@Robin> they take prid ein being dicks
[21:09] <&lost> yup
[21:10] <@Robin> you cannot reason with them and ANY solution was never going to work
[21:10] <@Robin> it is what they do now
[21:10] <@Robin> childish little victories
[21:10] <&lost> If we wouldn't be at the end of an age, we would surely fight back, but now, I prefer to show them wisdom (and indifference)
[21:11] <@Robin> to ruin the game...all because his wife found a younger model while playing the game
[21:12] <~Abi> well.. I'm gonna go and try to get some sleep
[21:14] <@Robin> good idea abi
[21:14] <@Robin> any time you want to call in just do it, no need for an invite first
[21:14] <~Abi> cheers Robin.. I appreciate that
[21:14] <~Abi> catch you all later
[21:14] <@Robin> slee[ well
[21:14] <@Robin> sleep even
[21:14] <&lost> night abi

[Pillz]

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03[22:00] * Topic is '4Change Votes To Krynn (Lime Jelly Bowtie) 7Take the razes like a true warrior and don't answers trolls. Thanks'
03[22:00] * Set by Krynn on Mon Mar 06 22:00:00 2017
[22:00] <@Robin> thank you raven
[22:01] <@Robin> i honestly wanted an amicable seperation
[22:02] <@Macho_Mib> you didnt have to bring up the incident
[22:02] <@Robin> but when getting called a liar again that was not possible...by people i have stuck up for and fought in their corner as well just shows how things have change din the kd
[22:02] <@Macho_Mib> but anyway, i changed my vote to krynn few days ago when krynn said he's taking monarchy back
[22:02] <@Robin> did i not?..ok
[22:03] <@Macho_Mib> you stuck up for lost.. lost stuck up for tigress.. just the way silva stuck up for me back then
[22:03] <&lost> ok Krynn, will do
[22:03] <@Macho_Mib> eveyrone has their reason
[22:04] <@Robin> differenc eis, i stuck up for those who were wronged
[22:04] <@Robin> i was called or made out to be a liar and that is something i have never been
[22:04] <@Macho_Mib> perhaps lost thought the same way about tigress
[22:04] <&lost> Royal commands changed
[22:04] <@Robin> of cours ei will defend myself over that
[22:05] <&Krynn> Macho, I said that a few days ago when I missunderstood something I thought you posted.t was read wrong and you did not post it
[22:05] <@Robin> he lied on all three counts to make me look bad,,,that is not sticking up for someone who was wronged
[22:05] <&lost> No Robin, I already told you why I stanted by Tigress.
[22:05] <&Krynn> I wanted to stop an all out infighting for the Monarchy
[22:06] <@Robin> no los, you lied
[22:06] <@Robin> you also lied by telling people that i rage quit
[22:06] <&Krynn> WTF?
[22:06] <@Macho_Mib> it's ok krynn, you are the monarch that this kd needs..
[22:06] <&Krynn> this is off topic
[22:06] <Raven> tigress used a poor choice in words like lost and I discussed yesterday..... Dense was the wrong word to use...... she should of said she found it trivial.....
[22:06] <&lost> I'm a guy open-minded and I'll always discuss about anything, even if I'm against it
[22:06] <@Macho_Mib> let's be honest, during my short tenure as monarch, this kd got way too divisive
[22:06] <Raven> but its done with
[22:06] <&Krynn> please for **** sake stow it
[22:07] <&lost> And sometime, I'll understand the other side point and change my mind
[22:07] <@Robin> you actually said she had not said it and that the word 'retard' was not used
[22:07] <@Robin> now you say she did
[22:07] <@Robin> make your mind up, it helps people a lot
[22:07] <&lost> No, I didn't said she say the R word
[22:07] <&lost> read back what I said
[22:08] <&Krynn> robin, lost, this is getting us no where
[22:08] <&lost> I know Krynn
[22:08] <@Robin> you did, because you said you had checked the logs and the word was not used
[22:08] <&Krynn> those who are trying to keep DD going are the ones who need to be heard
[22:08] <&Krynn> those who will be here next age
[22:08] <@Robin> go on then
[22:09] <&Krynn> we need to get it done
[22:09] <&Krynn> :)
[22:10] <@Robin> do it then
[22:11] <@Robin> who is staying?
[22:11] <@Robin> there, i mad eit easy for you
[22:11] <&Krynn> even ****ster quit hitting me
[22:11] <&Krynn> it is no fun when you get no reaction
[22:12] <&Krynn> the forums were only those 4 speaking for the most part and now they are so board they started another thread about thir little KD
[22:12] <@Robin> this is not talking about who is staying
[22:13] <&Krynn> this thing with them will not follow us into the next age
[22:13] <&Krynn> there is a thread in the forums for that robin
[22:13] <@Robin> you are deluded if you think that mate
[22:13] <&Krynn> right now people want to know what we are going to do to keep us going
[22:13] <@Robin> but you wanted me to shut up so you could talk about who is staying
[22:14] <&Krynn> no excatly, I wanted unproductive conversations to be taken into privite chat
[22:14] <&Krynn> you and lost are not going to agree
[22:14] <&Krynn> and they are not going to stay no matter what
[22:15] <&Krynn> I am too old to harp on the things I can not change
[22:15] <&Krynn> and going to do the best I can to change what I can
[22:15] <Raven> amen to that krynn
[22:16] <&Krynn> obviously, we are not going to be able to run a Krynn Kingdom
[22:16] <Raven> shes leaving anyways robin, so whats done is done
[22:16] <@Robin> i know, i was just proving how much of an argumentative fecker i CAN be
[22:16] <&Krynn> so people will have a vary large degree of flux for there Race/Personality next age
[22:17] <Raven> why not, I still wanna be Krynns Knee
[22:17] <&Krynn> ;)
[22:17] <Raven> and Lil can be Krynns wang....
[22:17] <@Robin> by the way, i took it to pm...and lost any respect i still had for a certain person
[22:17] <Raven> it will be the Krynn KD
[22:18] <&Krynn> what I meant by that is I will not be demanding people play this or that or to build this and that
[22:18] <&Krynn> not next age
[22:18] <&Krynn> we need to take a breath
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[22:18] <Raven> are you giving me free range? you know what happens when you take me off my leash you know......
[22:19] <&Krynn> we will see what you can do
[22:19] <@Macho_Mib> lost practically ran the kd this age. he was working overtime yet he put effort into cutting his sleep hour to get the kingdom running so that it wont collapse. I was all but missing for the half the wars as monarch
[22:19] <@Macho_Mib> give lost a break
[22:19] <&Krynn> I suggest a turtle or major attacker
[22:19] <&lost> Sorry Robin, but I didn't make up anything. And I also asked in the Royal Command to have a cizilized discussion and tp be humble, to not see escalating like I saw
[22:20] <&Krynn> ?
[22:20] <&Krynn> you both put in a lot of work over the ages, and I have said as much many times
[22:21] <Raven> Robins like an Elevator he has his ups and downs and eventually everyone gets to ride him...... bwahahahaha love you robin ;)
[22:21] <&Krynn> BTW, yes we are recruting
[22:22] <&Krynn> so if you all know some one by all means get them in
[22:22] <&Krynn> might have to get Nico back for an age to get our numbers up
[22:23] <&Krynn> so even if it is temperary, wee need bodys to hold monarchy and naming rights
[22:23] <BlckTigress753> hey guys and gals, sorry....coudln't be here earlier...
[22:23] <@Robin> robin is a lying, argumentative old tosser and you are better off with him out of the kd
[22:23] <&Krynn> and I can work in some of the rooms I am in to get more active players
[22:24] <&Krynn> hi Tiger
[22:24] <&Krynn> you are staying for the next age?
[22:24] <BlckTigress753> emm Robin is not a liar....except perhaps in the instance where he thinks I supposedly called him a retard....and I have NEVER used that word. I give hubby a huge hard time about never using that word....but I also know that people from different areas take words differently
[22:24] <&Krynn> did not get into the forums yet to see whats there
[22:24] <BlckTigress753> so Robin, I want to make sure that you know....I did NOT mean that I thought that you were remotely "retarded"
[22:25] <&Krynn> I did herar that some things have been added
[22:25] <BlckTigress753> and if you took it that way, I sincerely apalogize
[22:25] <@Robin> but i must be i seem to have lied about everything,,,anyway it has nothing to do with me now
[22:25] <BlckTigress753> I was hoping to get everyone listening and discussing....not just quoting "this is wrong, the end"
[22:26] <@Robin> and everyone is sticking up for everyone else so i must be in the wrong
[22:26] <BlckTigress753> hence my comment....which sadly, was mis-interpreted...so I'm really sorry about that
[22:26] <BlckTigress753> anywho.....
[22:27] <BlckTigress753> I had been contemplating leaving awhile ago....this is the longest I've kept up with a kingdom...but I hope to still stay in touch...
[22:27] <Bry> changed vote
[22:27] <Bry> you have monarch now
[22:27] <BlckTigress753> and like someone said above (not sure if it was Raven or Reaper....or maybe Macho...haha) hopefully I can come and visit again....just, not for now
[22:28] <Isaac_GUNdalf> yeah! i always come and visit once in awhile too ya know :D
[22:28] <Isaac_GUNdalf> i hope i'm still welcome to visit
[22:28] <&Krynn> thank you Bry
[22:30] <BlckTigress753> silly tick....lol trying to get my vote onto you Krynn....haha
[22:30] <&Krynn> wish ya were stayin
[22:31] <&Krynn> going to be an interesting age
[22:31] <&Krynn> new players, renewed leadership, and new owners
[22:31] <BlckTigress753> thanks...but I think it will be better if I leave....and who knows what my schedule will wind up being with the new baby haha
[22:32] <&Krynn> the next few ages will be interesting to see what changes they will bring
[22:32] <BlckTigress753> for sure...
[22:32] <BlckTigress753> lol maybe the new owners will FINALLY fix the major lagging at the beginning of the age.....hahahahahhahaah
[22:32] <BlckTigress753> yeah.......I think I'd faint if that actually happened
[22:33] <&lost> I dunno if it'll be fixed for next age. Appenrently, they already migrated the game to a new server
[22:33] <&lost> And we are still lagging
[22:33] <BlckTigress753> hehe and we still have all the funny glitches lol
[22:33] <&lost> Yeah :)
[22:33] <BlckTigress753> ahh well, like I said I'd prolly faint dead away if someone actually fixd something ;-)
[22:35] <&Krynn> if they did anything with the UI I would be happy
[22:35] <&Krynn> even simple things like windows poping up to telly you the spells do, same with ops.
[22:35] <&Krynn> and other instructiion type tips
[22:36] <BlckTigress753> ooo that'd be super nice
[22:36] <&Krynn> also a clearer SOT on your own throne page would be nice
[22:36] <@Macho_Mib> do you plan to tag up next age?
[22:38] <&Krynn> a cleaner economy page with adjusting forcast into next tic income and expences
[22:38] <&Krynn> yes
[22:38] <&Krynn> and with my name "Krynn" as Monarch
[22:39] <@Macho_Mib> :D
[22:39] <@Macho_Mib> like a boss
[22:39] <&Krynn> I think I will be able to inlist bishops help in killing this then
[22:39] <&Krynn> he has said as much in the past
[22:40] <&Krynn> almost at the point of changing KD name to Krynn's Dungeon Dwellers
[22:41] <&Krynn> just to see if I get any PMz from them
[22:41] <&Krynn> in fact
[22:41] <&Krynn> that is totlly a good idea
[22:41] <@Macho_Mib> Engage Korp in #tactics
[22:41] <@Macho_Mib> first
[22:41] <@Macho_Mib> at the start of age
[22:41] <@Macho_Mib> just to show that you are not hiding
[22:41] <&Krynn> I meant now
[22:41] <&Krynn> lol
[22:42] <&lost> Do you want Macho and I to leave right away? to help to your argument?
[22:42] <&lost> A total change of monarchy/stewardship
[22:42] <Raven> I dont think thats nessacery
[22:43] <@Macho_Mib> You are free to raze me to the ground just to send them a message
[22:43] <@Macho_Mib> i wont mind
[22:43] <&lost> I'll do whatever is needed to help the transition
[22:43] <BlckTigress753> :) me too!
[22:43] <BlckTigress753> kill the problem children! haha :P
[22:43] <@Macho_Mib> I might even hit you just to show that I made some resistance :)
[22:43] <&Krynn> TUDD is pool cue right?
[22:43] <@Macho_Mib> to make it more persuable
[22:44] <@Macho_Mib> yes
[22:44] <BlckTigress753> orange foamy pool cue....yeah, pretty sure that's TUDD
[22:45] <&lost> yeha, he is
[22:45] <&Krynn> ok then, lets see what I get
[22:49] <@Macho_Mib> i sent you the transcript with Korp so far made
[22:49] <@Macho_Mib> just so you have a better understanding of where we stand
[22:49] <@Macho_Mib> in case you need it
[22:50] <&Krynn> got it
[22:50] <&Krynn> I smell my dinner
[22:50] <&Krynn> give me 20 minutes
[22:50] <@Macho_Mib> ok
[22:50] <&Krynn> boy TUDD will be surprised
[22:53] <@Macho_Mib> I will bbl
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[23:01] <&lost> HI pillius
[23:07] <sarine> back from work, read back as far as mibbit saves
[23:07] <sarine> changed my vote to krynn
[23:08] <sarine> confused as to how one prov with less honor has more votes
[23:08] <sarine> (SandPaper has 5 votes to cast as baroness, i have 4 votes as viscountess)
[23:09] <&Krynn> have you been hit?
[23:09] <sarine> i have not
[23:09] <sarine> at all
[23:09] <&Krynn> mmmm
[23:09] <Bry> warhero
[23:09] <sarine> oh, war hero gets bonus votes?
[23:09] <&Krynn> thats right
[23:09] <sarine> interesting
[23:09] <Bry> its like double benifit form honor
[23:10] <sarine> ahhh, and that extends to votes, got it
[23:10] <sarine> thanks
[23:10] <Bry> or something liek that
[23:10] <sarine> haha
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[23:27] <@Lilika> I hate this
[23:28] <BlckTigress753> ??
[23:28] <@Lilika> now there is this kingdom out there who thinks tht can troll and get whatever they want
[23:28] <&Krynn> I do too Love
[23:28] <@Lilika> they will not stop be it us or someone else
[23:29] <BlckTigress753> well, hopefully the new owners can do something about other kingdoms not being able to raze into other people's wars....
[23:29] <BlckTigress753> that would honestly be an awesome improvement to the game...'cause let's face it.....no matter where you go, there are always bullies and trolls :s
[23:30] <@Lilika> I hope so because this is a sad end to the entire situation
[23:30] <BlckTigress753> agreed.....though RoO is not the reason I'm leaving....it's a multiplicity of reasons....
[23:31] <BlckTigress753> one of which honestly is this incoming baby....I've already had a few complications which might = sudden disapearance if they get worse...I wouldn't want to leave DD in a position where I just go poof
[23:31] <@Lilika> that's fair but I think this entire situation brought out the worst in some of us
[23:31] <@Lilika> well, that is infinitely more important
[23:31] <@Lilika> I will miss you and wish you the best of luck
[23:32] <BlckTigress753> especially if DD were in a difficult war, or dealing with RoO or whatever the case might be....so it's better that I take off for an age....perhaps longer....I hope some day that there might be room for me to come back
[23:32] <@Lilika> I thin that can be arranged ;)
[23:32] <BlckTigress753> and I hope to see DD go back to the strong warring kingdom I originally joined up with....'cause those were the awesome days :)
[23:33] <@Lilika> they were... i hope so too
[23:33] <&Krynn> I just need people to follow us unto the next age to prvent a merger to fight out
[23:34] <&Krynn> leaving at EoA really puts the KD at a disadvantage
[23:35] <BlckTigress753> welll....there's not that many of us leaving are there??
[23:35] <&Krynn> 5
[23:35] <BlckTigress753> mibbit didn't save the whole shabang for me....
[23:35] <&Krynn> that I know of
[23:35] <BlckTigress753> ok, so 5 out of 19....
[23:35] <BlckTigress753> hmmm
[23:35] <&Krynn> and we have 15 open spots right now
[23:36] <BlckTigress753> ooooo
[23:36] <BlckTigress753> maybe people just haven't hit the "stay" button yet???
[23:36] <&Krynn> so people have to checked the box
[23:36] <&Krynn> hope that is all it is
[23:36] <BlckTigress753> there still have 4 days.....
[23:36] <BlckTigress753> maybe post a reminder.....
[23:36] <BlckTigress753> I usually forget until the last minute honestly lol
[23:37] <&lost> Maybe it,d be better to change to ROyal commands for a reminder
[23:37] <@Lilika> that's a goos idea lost
[23:37] <sarine> mmmm
[23:37] <sarine> goose
[23:38] <sarine> (hi lil and kara and lost =) )
[23:38] <BlckTigress753> Krynn has monarchy now.....so he can do anything he wants ;-)
[23:38] <sarine> kara, i hope you'll pop in to let us know the good news when the baby arrives
[23:38] <@Lilika> hey sarine
[23:38] <@Lilika> yes, kara please do
[23:40] <sarine> and, for the record, i'm planning on sticking around
[23:41] <sarine> one reason being just to stick it to the bullies
[23:41] <sarine> i hate trolls... so much...
[23:43] <BlckTigress753> will do sarine :)
[23:43] <BlckTigress753> I'll probably pop in every once inwhile just to check up on y'all haha
03[23:45] * Krynn changes topic to '4Change Votes To Krynn (Lime Jelly Bowtie) 7Please check the stay with Kingdom box in preferences.'
[23:45] <&Krynn> thank you Sarine
[23:46] <&Krynn> I hope not to disapoint
[23:46] <&Krynn> even though we will niot be playing my game, I think we can make it fun

[00:15] <sarine> so theme is "Krynn's <something>"?
[00:16] <&Krynn> I have not thought of that
[00:16] <&Krynn> lol
[00:16] <sarine> raven was saying something to that end
[00:16] <sarine> =p
[00:16] <&Macho> hello
[00:16] <sarine> hi macho =)
[00:16] <&Macho> hi sarine~
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[00:52] <&lost> Suggestion of macho on hitting us two wasn't bad imho. To make them understand there's a change in here
[00:53] <&lost> If you need it, just ask me, I'll send leet somewhere to open up my def
[00:56] <&lost> But ask me in PM, I don't think I'm welcomed here anymore :(
[00:56] <&lost> I'll follow orders fif you ask me
[00:56] <&lost> good luck everyone
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[01:00] <&Macho> =/
[01:00] <&Macho> I'll be here until krynn bans me
[01:01] <&Krynn> they will know
[01:01] <&Krynn> we need no intra attacks
[01:02] <&Macho> ok
[01:03] <Raven> what did i miss? why does lost feel unwelcomed?
[01:05] <&Krynn> idk
[01:05] <&Krynn> I told him we were ok
[01:06] <&Krynn> no hard feelings
[01:06] <Raven> ehhh people are just tired i suspect
[01:06] <&Krynn> I just would have liked those wanting to move on would either have done it weeks ago or a week into the next age
[01:07] <&Krynn> so as to establish our KD before we have holes to fill
[01:07] <&Macho> what diff does it make?
[01:07] <Raven> yeah but they need to do whats best for them.
[01:07] <&Macho> we'd only have filled up spots in the beginning of age
[01:07] <&Macho> only waste of time
[01:07] <&Krynn> votes to establish a KD with and not to get merged and have a civil war to deal with
[01:07] <Raven> we will be ok, its 5 people and im sure if we dont find someone 5 will be randomly placed.... its ok we will deal

And here is the method by which we actually located DD, taken from a PM I sent on these forums:

DD loc

We intend to raze 2:8 until we confirm it's them. We've got a list of every kd with a female monarch based on the assumption Abi wouldn't relinquish monarchy and must let everyone know she's a woman.

We will raze every kd on the list starting with 2:8 until we definitely have them.

2:8 seems likely right setup... Hiding, trying to outgrow us, and female monarch largest in kd.

Also one prov name includes the word lost uncapitalized which is the name of one of their players. I am hoping that is the slip up

Note: doesn't seem to have been a slip up, actually.

[Avenger]

They crumble fast under pressure it seems.
Arka-senpai successfully deduced their location by yr2.

[Band of Horses]

Those logs are pretty damn funny when you compare them to these forums. I feel for macho having to deal with them.