really? 11 with new bloodlust and fan will be 12.7 and in place of 10% stables u will have 10% tg's that make them even strongerQuote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
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really? 11 with new bloodlust and fan will be 12.7 and in place of 10% stables u will have 10% tg's that make them even strongerQuote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
Actually no, i'm fully aware of that. It was a direct response to the suggestion of "Has anyone seen how OP 9/0 undead specs will be out of protection", in which my response was that avians will be better oop because of leet credits (not to mention bloodlust 10% extra OME).Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
meh, even if they are better than most races oop they will fall behind once everyone catches up also don't under estimate how effective -gains are with their nerfed attack time. UD's are better than any attacking race at any point of the age.Quote:
Originally Posted by klaabu
Good luck having any decent amount of horses oop. After 16h to bring them in, and 8h of filling they will be about 1/5 filled by oop. Now if we are talking about 12-16h AFTER oop, that is a different story, But yea, i stand by my case that avians will have by far the most oop offense if they run pure leets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayerviper
If they want to cast BL and fanatics by all mean go pure glass cannon receive extra army deaths and be quad tapped with your lower defence by all means go ahead :) UD has no weakness oop avian does (balance is great). I guess you never speed built buildings in protection before.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
tell me if i'm wrong but when undeads will have most of their army as elites they will have -15% attack gains ... so u really think that -5% on avian will be a problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayerviper
BL will give u actually 3.5% bigger losses .. and fan reduce u defense only 3% ...
wtf you talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by klaabu
-75% Offensive losses on attacks you make
Spreads and is Immune to The Plague
No Food Required
Attacks convert Offensive Specialists into Elites
Defensive losses automatically convert to soldiers(Permanent Animate Dead)
+3 Offensive Specialist strength
Penalties
Basic Thievery (Intel Operations Only)
No Elite Training
-35% Science Effectiveness
Where is this reduced attack time? UD's will never have full leet army, but they will gain offence forever until chained into oblivion (its easy to counter NS).
how many attackers there are that UD or orc can't quadtap with armies out?
it's called anonymity ... ppl cant ambush u but u have 15% lower gains
if you bushing oop then we should stop talking about UTO tacticsQuote:
Originally Posted by klaabu
depends on the set up; however I rather hit a t/m and spares on an attackers for better leet conversionQuote:
Originally Posted by klaabu
if u will have mostly elite army oop then we can talk againQuote:
Originally Posted by Slayerviper
but yes uf y are going to attack me oop with ud elites then i will bush u for sure and make u cry ...
umm okay UD won't have leets oop till the 2nd hit unless they go WH in which case they still will have a 80% spec army which your better off hitting for land because a bush would cost more >_<Quote:
Originally Posted by klaabu
i will bush undeads not for land but to kill their elites ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayerviper
thats fine I'll enjoy the extra land and help bring up the explore pool quicker and I'll have more O by the 2nd wave anyways (-75% losses hitting, leet conversion, BL wiping out your offence with each hit, you don't get credits either). If I were playing next age I sure hope to meet you OOP, you can have your bush :)Quote:
Originally Posted by klaabu