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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    You seem to think 11/4 elites without horses is great. Offense is a lot worse compared to human/undead/orc.
    really? 11 with new bloodlust and fan will be 12.7 and in place of 10% stables u will have 10% tg's that make them even stronger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    You seem to think 11/4 elites without horses is great. Offense is a lot worse compared to human/undead/orc.
    Actually no, i'm fully aware of that. It was a direct response to the suggestion of "Has anyone seen how OP 9/0 undead specs will be out of protection", in which my response was that avians will be better oop because of leet credits (not to mention bloodlust 10% extra OME).

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaabu View Post
    really? 11 with new bloodlust and fan will be 12.7 and in place of 10% stables u will have 10% tg's that make them even stronger
    meh, even if they are better than most races oop they will fall behind once everyone catches up also don't under estimate how effective -gains are with their nerfed attack time. UD's are better than any attacking race at any point of the age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerviper View Post
    as mentioned throw in horses and once a UD hits once it will have 15/1 leets with horses so yah... Avian can only train so much leets oop... and they have - gains so yah.... :)
    Good luck having any decent amount of horses oop. After 16h to bring them in, and 8h of filling they will be about 1/5 filled by oop. Now if we are talking about 12-16h AFTER oop, that is a different story, But yea, i stand by my case that avians will have by far the most oop offense if they run pure leets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiedema View Post
    Good luck having any decent amount of horses oop. After 16h to bring them in, and 8h of filling they will be about 1/5 filled by oop. Now if we are talking about 12-16h AFTER oop, that is a different story, But yea, i stand by my case that avians will have by far the most oop offense if they run pure leets.
    If they want to cast BL and fanatics by all mean go pure glass cannon receive extra army deaths and be quad tapped with your lower defence by all means go ahead :) UD has no weakness oop avian does (balance is great). I guess you never speed built buildings in protection before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerviper View Post
    meh, even if they are better than most races oop they will fall behind once everyone catches up also don't under estimate how effective -gains are with their nerfed attack time. UD's are better than any attacking race at any point of the age.
    tell me if i'm wrong but when undeads will have most of their army as elites they will have -15% attack gains ... so u really think that -5% on avian will be a problem?

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    BL will give u actually 3.5% bigger losses .. and fan reduce u defense only 3% ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaabu View Post
    tell me if i'm wrong but when undeads will have most of their army as elites they will have -15% attack gains ... so u really think that -5% on avian will be a problem?
    wtf you talking about

    -75% Offensive losses on attacks you make
    Spreads and is Immune to The Plague
    No Food Required
    Attacks convert Offensive Specialists into Elites
    Defensive losses automatically convert to soldiers(Permanent Animate Dead)
    +3 Offensive Specialist strength

    Penalties
    Basic Thievery (Intel Operations Only)
    No Elite Training
    -35% Science Effectiveness

    Where is this reduced attack time? UD's will never have full leet army, but they will gain offence forever until chained into oblivion (its easy to counter NS).

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    how many attackers there are that UD or orc can't quadtap with armies out?

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    it's called anonymity ... ppl cant ambush u but u have 15% lower gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaabu View Post
    it's called anonymity ... ppl cant ambush u but u have 15% lower gains
    if you bushing oop then we should stop talking about UTO tactics

    Quote Originally Posted by klaabu View Post
    how many attackers there are that UD or orc can't quadtap with armies out?
    depends on the set up; however I rather hit a t/m and spares on an attackers for better leet conversion
    Last edited by Slayerviper; 02-03-2017 at 18:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerviper View Post
    if you bushing oop then we should stop talking about UTO tactics
    if u will have mostly elite army oop then we can talk again
    but yes uf y are going to attack me oop with ud elites then i will bush u for sure and make u cry ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaabu View Post
    if u will have mostly elite army oop then we can talk again
    but yes uf y are going to attack me oop with ud elites then i will bush u for sure and make u cry ...
    umm okay UD won't have leets oop till the 2nd hit unless they go WH in which case they still will have a 80% spec army which your better off hitting for land because a bush would cost more >_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerviper View Post
    umm okay UD won't have leets oop till the 2nd hit unless they go WH in which case they still will have a 80% spec army which your better off hitting for land because a bush would cost more >_<
    i will bush undeads not for land but to kill their elites ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaabu View Post
    i will bush undeads not for land but to kill their elites ...
    thats fine I'll enjoy the extra land and help bring up the explore pool quicker and I'll have more O by the 2nd wave anyways (-75% losses hitting, leet conversion, BL wiping out your offence with each hit, you don't get credits either). If I were playing next age I sure hope to meet you OOP, you can have your bush :)

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