Did Sanct and Mother Advice notice?

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Originally Posted by jdorje

You still think we were farming gc through an in-game ceasefire? Is that why our gc stocks constantly dropped?

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If you dont follow the conversation and understand what its about please refrain from posting. Thou if you are actually interested you can easily follow the conversation me and goodz had in the previous page and you will be up to date and hopefully understand what my comment was about. Hell let me make it easy for you! goodz explaination why their "cows" had 0 theives was to fix TB while he told us/ my kingdom a different story when we were taking advantage of that fact.

Our big provs all run thieves, there were obviously situations in past ages where we had to transfer money from larger provs to smaller ones. I don't see how this is anyone's business as there is nothing wrong with large provs, feeding up your kd, pumping books, or whatever.

Specifically encouraging other kingdoms to rob someone just because they chose to play a certain way is wrong. If you don't like it then don't make cfs but you yourself want to pump while inciting other people to rob Abs kds so they have a worse pump than you do.

The only time I have actually seen an unfair way of transferring gold was when its done in between kingdoms. The most recent instance of such was when flogger (pulse) farmed gc to Bio in age 55 so they could double us. The gc transfer did not help much as we still farmed Psyhward and BIO in spite of the gc transfer and doubleteam but it was nonetheless lame.

Kuhan yes I am in. If you want we can both transfer our money to ASF and he will pay the proceeds to winner.

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Originally Posted by goodz

We do not appreciate elit target sharing us or accusing us of random BS.

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And yet you accuse us of all sorts of bull****? Like checking your paper for targets to hit? You think we are completely incapable of finding the few targets that were left for us at the time, goodz?

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Specifically encouraging other kingdoms to rob someone just because they chose to play a certain way is wrong. If you don't like it then don't make cfs but you yourself want to pump while inciting other people to rob Abs kds so they have a worse pump than you do.

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At the time Elit mentioned it in this thread it was already common knowledge amongst players that it was happening. The fact that Elit broke his own code of ethics is probably because he was getting more and more pissed off at dorje accusing us of abusing a game mechanic, when we weren't. Not a good reason, I guess, but people do strange things when they get pissed off at being falsely accused.

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Originally Posted by Cello

At the time Elit mentioned it in this thread it was already common knowledge amongst players that it was happening. The fact that Elit broke his own code of ethics is probably because he was getting more and more pissed off at dorje accusing us of abusing a game mechanic, when we weren't. Not a good reason, I guess, but people do strange things when they get pissed off at being falsely accused.

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Proteus know very well i didut ask any kd to rob abs kd so dont know for what broke ethic you talk :P
all my crime is to rob from sanc in our pre hostile :D

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Originally Posted by Cello

dorje accusing us of abusing a game mechanic

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Originally Posted by jdorje

I didn't say you abused a bug

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The only kingdom who used the term "abuse" was you.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Typical abs vs. non abs thread with lots of smack talk. I've seen a lot of X vs insert-Abs-kd-name-here and typically has the same result, Abs kd wins and thread goes quiet. I don't expect this to be any different.

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You went pretty quit a couple ages back. You forgot already? ;)
Purely speaking for myself; I've kept talking all the time, regardless if I won or lost. Right now I'm just talking/posting less than usual as I hardly play.

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Originally Posted by Persain

hard to throw stones when your not doing anything w/your kd. you have multiple hitters that could raze ABS banks...wanna have fun, pump your top 3 orcs to 90 opa and raze 1000's of acres from any of the top kds trying to pump, its not that simply Anri and u know it.

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Beleive me, it crossed our minds more then once. It would been fun.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

I find it emberrasing to see taunt banners twice this age directed at Absalom having 0 thiefs on multiple killers since I play at HoH. Even if there is no gold farming going on, the game is in bad shape when killers can run no thiefs without a worry in the world. Like was mentioned earlier last age same thing a couple of Absalom killers with no thiefs. Maybe it's just the way they have always done killers?? Maybe Proteus can clarify if it's a constant theme or just a rare occurance.

The game is broken the competition is lame.

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Cows/killers or however you wish to name them, frequently release their thieves to let others fix their TBs as they generally have a surplus of resources. As of recent, it seems to have become a habit (by Abs kingdoms) to play without thieves for weeks rather than just a day or 2.

Don't give Proteus too much credit; it's an old strategy that's been used for many ages, probably just not the same way they do it now.

I'm also guessing they intra kingdom steal surplus to fund sciences, as with the income a human cow has it should generate enough cash and have spares even after buying extreme ;p

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Specifically encouraging other kingdoms to rob someone just because they chose to play a certain way is wrong. If you don't like it then don't make cfs but you yourself want to pump while inciting other people to rob Abs kds so they have a worse pump than you do.

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Sanc was already taunted this age with a 0thiefe infil, you think people aren't aware yet? :|

Situation in paste ages was similar to what Sanc/Havoc did, but perhaps you learned from being mass-robbed 1-2 ages back when you sat on 0 thieves for a longer period of time.

These taunts are actually pretty hilarious. Wonder how often they'll be used ;p

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Originally Posted by jdorje

The only kingdom who used the term "abuse" was you.

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Saying we knew about a bug, and built and trained accordingly is implying just that. The fact that you didn't use the word doesn't take away from the fact that you meant just that.

"active hostile" started 1h ago. Both kds use scary ops and look each other :)
Dragons was traded again.

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Originally Posted by prot

Cows/killers or however you wish to name them, frequently release their thieves to let others fix their TBs as they generally have a surplus of resources. As of recent, it seems to have become a habit (by Abs kingdoms) to play without thieves for weeks rather than just a day or 2.

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One reason it's more effective now is that cows have silly income. Typically you will have +1m hourly income (with tog) on extreme science...what are you going to do with that money? Running 50k thieves lowers your hourly income by like 300k (7m a day). Even if some ghetto does rob all your cash, you're still going to have 200m spare after pumping come wartime. But better to let your own kingdom take it.

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Originally Posted by Korp

So we have a conflict of stories here, you telling one side here and another explaination previously you must understand how i find it very confusing :)

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It costs me like 20m to retrain to 2TPA say. It also reduces daily income by say 5m. So I presume you can understand why i felt it was worth risk of leaving tpa at 0. I had planned to leave it there for a few more days even after I released to let a guy rob. In end I lost about 25m gc on my prov. But I have released a few others times during the age when we needed the TB to put up a bank easily. It is what it is like I said.

I just wish a KD would not leak me doing it to the entire world without any provocation from my kd.

They were given an advantage in that fortified didn't work as intended by devs and they were able to steal a couple hundred million gc in it. I don't think anyone was saying they abused mechanics...

anyway meh this whole thing is stupid I just want my monies back!

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Originally Posted by goodz

They were given an advantage in that fortified didn't work as intended by devs and they were able to steal a couple hundred million gc in it. I don't think anyone was saying they abused mechanics...

anyway meh this whole thing is stupid I just want my monies back!

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if what you claim is true (that fortified isn't working as it should), then technically you are accusing them of abusing a game mechanic, especially when jdorje claims they knew about it.