Evil Dragons...

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Originally Posted by Sig

The delusional troll keeps trollin'

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You want to paint ED as unsportsmanlike has-beens. I think you'll find neither of those to be true. This thread is full of players, current and retired, who have nice or hilarious things to say about ED. We won the first war of the age. We've consistently been at the top of the charts, and we don't even want the land or nw. We've only warred kingdoms with 25 players, and we even did one of those down a prov. Can you say the same thing about your kingdom? We're not talking about last age; we're talking about right now. Meanwhile, where are you? We've called you out, and you've responded with trashtalk. Will you respond with a loc instead? If not, anything you have to say here is worthless, just words.

And the razekill was quite honorable! Probably 1k honor's worth to the prov. That's what happens to kingdoms that landdrop and renege on war deals with us.

We wanted to see if we could get another war win, only way to do that was to try and find someone who would war us, to try and help get a win we went with very specific terms of whoever was up on land after 72 hours would win with nothing else being considered.

Your monarch then decided to send this while war was ongoing: "I don't think we need to wait until the 72 hour mark to total the acres. This war is over <etc.>"

Demanding that we surrender before the time agreed plus offering tips is a joke, as for getting "rolled", this was around 12 hours before end of war (from ED pov):

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 157 (18,400 acres)
Traditional march: 148 (17,323 acres)
Ambush: 6 (1,077 acres)
Failed: 3 (1.9% failure)
Uniques: 54

Total attacks suffered: 130 (18,917 acres)
Traditional march: 113 (17,984 acres)
Ambush: 11 (933 acres)
Massacre: 2 (12,203 population)
Failed: 4 (3.1% failure)

You got out hit while having 4 more provs...

at least it is better than our current war...
its sad to miss strippers

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Originally Posted by BruceLee

we play the game for fun and don't feel the need to be recognized as a top kd so we change names every age.

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I bet ghetto bashing is very fun isn't it?

Wondering how long it's going to take the Family to surrender.

Don't know when/if they'll surrender so we'll just keep on ticking over, one of them died through inactivity though so who knows...

** The kingdom of ED **
Total land exchanged: +5,084 (977/812)

What I do know is this is far more entertaining than sitting about pumping sci!

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Originally Posted by silverfox

Don't know when/if they'll surrender so we'll just keep on ticking over, one of them died through inactivity though so who knows...

** The kingdom of ED **
Total land exchanged: +5,084 (977/812)

What I do know is this is far more entertaining than sitting about pumping sci!

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But how?

Not too long. =D

Win

I dont get this. ED warred strippers last age, or was it this age? Someone fill me damnit ! :P

They warred strippers last age. That is all i know

You can bend a fork in your mind but not with your mind

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Originally Posted by divine

You can bend a fork in your mind but not with your mind

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did you just watch matrix? lol

Stripper won or ED won last age?

Hi, Im Parth. Strippers won last age. We wanted a last war and had troubles finding one around kingdoms that looked to be standing on even ground so in desperation we took on strippers who had 5-6 provs more (?) and were a great deal bigger and better pumped (we just STARTED forming the kd mid way through last age so we pretty much had **** wpa & science despite being last week of the age). Around min time, they were up a few acres and we withdraw. Thats all good, apart from the fact we lost. But we got a little disgruntled with them being a tad bit arrogant with messages saying "you better withdraw and we can give you some pointers about how to war" and so forth. This age is almost a month old now, and they have still to come forward to a standing challange from us, now being a full kd. From the limited experience we have of this kd, Im sure they are out there somewhere landdropping, bashing ghettos thinking they are up there next to Brute Force and Pansies. Sooner or later we will find them, and I will hopefully be able to give a more interesting description of what has transpired.

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Originally Posted by NoseBlood

did you just watch matrix? lol

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What makes you say that?
I dont think they bend any forks in their mind in the Matrix.

Sometimes knowing how to not do something is just as important as knowing how to do it

There is no spoon!

I think i'm starting to see a relationship between the decreasing amount of players in the game and the fluffyness all over. And i'm the nice one :p

It's lookin like a regular candyland outthere!


now where are those stupid strippers cuz I unfortunately missed that war due to holidays! where aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Also I wave hello to all old friends and friends to be. Thanks for welcoming us back to warmly (or hatefully, but both work out fine to have some in the game again)


Hey i missed making nonsensical utopia posts. I LOVE THIS

also i post in favour of the zapz, because he is definitely the mightiest of snugglers out there. it's true because it's been said on irc. And irc is always right.

just like google.



ok so where is abs these days cuz i need us to apply!! how can we survive this cruel world without being in the strongest alliance of them all...

I dunno that cheese would want us to join (this post is also in favour of Zauper).

well cheese gave in at some point too right.
and maybe with getting older and wiser, he'll realise that the best place to be is actually inside absalom.
TOP OF TEH WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORrrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllld

this post is in favour of zauper as well. Just because I can. And there is no reason to not do it.


Also, Snoepie stop smoking its bad for you.

Waves to Snoepie

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Originally Posted by Arka

this post is in favour of zauper as well.

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Cause Zauper's freaking awesome! ;)

Sorry, but...

THIS POST IS NOT IN FAVOR OF ZAUPER

oh.....that is what evil dragons is............. ok.

Hope we will meet soon.

if the timing works out, we likely will.

They lie in wait like wolves. The smell of blood in their nostrils. Waiting. Interminably waiting. And then...

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Originally Posted by BruceLee

wow u guys actually summoned the dinosaurs? either way good to see a competitive kd come back

maybe get a few more practice rounds in before u come to the stripclub =P

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Seems like the Stripclub is closed :(

Need more time to learn how to strip properly? 5 ghetto lessons not enough? ;)

Allow me to provide an update on the situation from our end of things:

First of all, for 3 ages our kd has been called Strippers. Our first age was in age 53 we ended up winning the war crown. We don't consider ourselves a top or super kingdom, we are basically a glorified ghetto that plays well together and has fun along the way. This kd was named Strippers by a player who no longer plays with us, so we decided we wanted to permanently change our kd name to Debauchery. We have been tagged as such all age and you can find us in #debauchery on UtoNet.

Last age right near the end we were tagged MSG for WAR and the kd of ED and friends offered us a war which we quickly agreed. We were 25 players at the time and ED was either 20/21. We were surprised to have an offer from a kd with a player disadvantage like that, but on the flip side they had some pretty large provinces in their kd. We accepted the war under their monarchs terms of "the kd who is up in acres at 72 hours will win". A strange set of terms seeing as we never measure the winner of a war by acre exchange alone (instead we compare starting/current NW, and the status of provs in each kd ie. UBs). After 48 hours we were certain we had won, and instead of waiting for the 72 hour mark we sent the king of ED a (overly cocky) message that we should wrap things up and we can exchange tips/suggestions in war forums. In no way did we mean to be condescending or rude, although in hindsight we now realize what we may have sounded like. In our defense, almost every war we exchange some tips with the enemy kd to improve their overall game and increase the number of challenging kds out there. We also appreciate hearing from the opposing kd where we could improve. When ED surrendered, one of their players began posting sarcastic "suggestions" for us, and a flame war began. ED made claims to discredit our victory, while we poked fun at the fact that we had never heard of ED or their accomplishments in the past. As far as I am concerned, both kds acted childish towards one another, but both are equally at fault.

Fast forward to this age, and this very thread. ED makes it public that they are looking for us. We are not hiding. Anybody with irc can see there is only 1 user who has ~ on both strippers and debauchery channel, the connection is pretty easy to make. We entertain ourselves in the war forums, both kds go back and forth (see pages 1 to 5). ED makes it clear their intentions to rematch us, and we like the idea. We both have our eyes on each other, but while we are seeking war ED is still in one, and vise verse. Finally, after our 5th war win, we grow large enough to have a war with ED. They have been pumping comfortably at 39k acres, we just barely made 38k from the win. During our 4th day of CF ED makes 15 plunders into our kd and steals lots of gold. We do not complain about hitting into our war.

A few hours before we come OOW, we send a message to ED king explaining that we are interested in rematching them, but that they should give us 96 hours to get ready. If ED truly thinks they are the better kd, we expected them to offer us a fair war. We beat them last age, and were confident we could do it again. I tell ED that if they want a war, give us some time. But if they just wave us out the gate, there is no chance that our kd will be as strong as them. On the hour we came OOW, ED switches aggressive stance and begins waving. We are in forty and tagged NO WAR. A few messages have been exchanged with various players in either kds. Most of us are saying "let us fight on even strength", most of them are saying "you don't get to have the moral high ground after your actions last age. You also mistake our intent in trying to play for a "fair" war we have nothing to prove in waring you this is the simple self gratifying act of vengeance."

We were looking forward to rematching ED as they are finally 25 players. Right now we are basically 23 players, although we would not have mentioned that as an excuse if we had lost. As of right now, the points on the meter are 124-0 and ED has an open CF from us. We are not doing any ops or attacks back on their kd to show that we genuinely will not war while weakened in this state. We are all still interested in warring with ED, but if these are the tactics they need to use to win wars, I find it quite sad really.

ED: you guys truly are the better kd. As you have said previous, we are simply ghetto-bashers. It is sad that you need to have so many advantages over a kd as casual as ours. We are looking forward to the day that you offer us a fair war.

If anyone would be nice enough to summarise the above, please kindly do so while I ask my English teacher to mark the essay above.

Nothing in your post hasn't been said already.

There is no diplomacy to be done on public forums and it is irrelevant if people feel sorry for you or not.

You're well aware of why we are acting as we are, we gave you notice weeks ago and you yourself posted how "bad our tactics are", you've had enough time to plan and be ready for us. We didn't chose to jump you after a war to be "unfair" but rather this is the first time we've been OOW knowing location.

Saying you've been growing into our range flies in the face of the fact you've been razed by outside KDs on multiple occasions to land drop.

Sorry, we can't really hear you over the sound of you not pushing the button.

yeah, forgot to mention last age, after we agreed to war (while ED was still in post war CF after a brutal war) i had half my gold stolen (around 3.5mil) BY strippers/debauchery

we just assumed that was the way you played


EDIT: add 2mil from another prov
8 million from one other!!!!
on top of other smaller amounts from others
so lets say you took 15million off us during our EOWCF, then you waved us a few minutes after we came oow

why is that unfair this time?

lol, Brutal, you were bashing ghettos last age Forensick. :> (With that i mean "brutal" is a overstatment)

i didnt really say who it was brutal before.
and i think we were truly ghetto last age, it took me 20 mins in the mystic section trying to find CB every time

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A few hours before we come OOW, we send a message to ED king explaining that we are interested in rematching them, but that they should give us 96 hours to get ready.

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So you want 8 days to prepare? Honestly, if you couldnt get prepared in the 4 days eowcf, 4 more days wouldnt have helped much.

Seriously, asking for 4 days to pump after a 4 day of end of war CF at the tail end of a short war? Whether or not that's "fair" it's just plain stupid. A day, maybe two max, to convert build may be reasonable, but in my mind that is what the 4 days after the war are for. I was able to grow 130% in a war over a week long, then afterwards rebuild twice and train up from ~25% draft to 70% in under 5 days.

As for the grudge, Utopia has always been a game where if you piss somebody off one age, you risk getting payback in future ages. So my tip for the war you had with ED last age, as I wasn't playing at that point, if you expect being treated by your definition of fairness then don't piss off kingdoms you aren't sure you will have the upper hand on age after age.

verm - Its hard to not piss off people thats looking for trouble :P