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Originally Posted by Petrified
it's still hitting in to a active 1v1 , and you claiming "farm arrangement" is'nt anymore legit then when Elit claimed you hade a farm arrangement.
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Originally Posted by Petrified
it's still hitting in to a active 1v1 , and you claiming "farm arrangement" is'nt anymore legit then when Elit claimed you hade a farm arrangement.
you seem to be forgetting the same size part? and it was an active war.. keyword here is war..Quote:
Originally Posted by Aos
Elldallan, your opinion is biased due to your former play with Elit. The rest of utopia disagrees with you. Waving into an active war is unacceptable and should be met with action. What I would have liked to see here is BB and Pewpew doing a joint wave on AMA after they waved Jerks.
I don't like AMA. I don't like Pewpew. And I certainly don't like BB. I probably dislike BB the most out of those 3 due to the hacking and dealbreak threat. But all of that doesn't matter when there was a serious penalty that happened this round in hitting into a war. That immediately rises to the top of the stack, so to speak.
"backstab" or not they did not break any deal. You decided to wave into a war because of it and then do the same "backstab".Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
so you win by waving into a war, and expect to win again doing the same "backstab".
You cant have it both ways.
Ya but Elit is smarter then that. Crown > Suitable revenge. He didn't want to get caught up between both of us (we all know what happened last time we 1v1d), so he chose the path with least resistance, as we have already been thrown around like a dirty stripper on half price day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
Crown 4 bin bin?
So we don't respect hostile but we should respect war? , and size got nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GorM
hitting in to any 1v1 kd activity hostile/war is lame , don't matter how you try to twist it.
The real joke here is that AMA and SWEA already did this to Pew, and they did nothing..twice. Why not go for the triple crown?Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
slippery slope is slippy
We did not say we would farm out to AMA Petrified. Stop fabricating lies. There was never a clear cut deal for 1 wave for a EoA CF. I brainstormed solutions with you, so i had something to bring to my council. Again, stop fabricating lies. I offered you to reinstate notice/cf if i guaranteed AMA would get none of our acres, to keep a status quo between #1 and #2. You turned us down. Basically you told me "welcome to utopia, rough". You chose to mass reset last age because you goofed us wanting to war Proteus, then realizing that wasn't smart. We chose not to give you acres you needed to catch up to AMA. You hit into a legit hostile, so you look like the greedy fool on a quest for acres. Some ugly faces are being shown here, and it is totally uncalled for. We in Jerks played fair all age and honored the deals we made. Ty for ****playing us in return.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
We know all about it..Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCurious
lol at your arguement.. saying "hitting in to any 1v1 kd activity hostile/war is lame , don't matter how you try to twist it." so who did that 1st? and lol! sizes are part of war.. or are your eyes blinded by the huge acre advantage you currently have? ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Aos
They broke the spirit of of cooperation that's the whole point behind an alliance, I'd say thats the same thing as breaking the deal the alliance is based on because that deal is worthless unless you can trust your supposed allies and you obviously can't trust pewpew after that move, so I'd say pewpew's move made any alliance and thus the agreements of that allaince null and void as far as pewpew was concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
I didn't win anything, as I have said on multiple occasions I don't play with AMA(tho I admit having played with Elit quite a few ages so I can't claim to be unbiased).
But to answer your question. In short yes, there is no problem with this "move" the only problem was that pewpew were supposed to be allied with AMA, that trust was betrayed the first time so personally I would consider any alliance with pewpew null and void and thus I would have no more problem doing something like that to pew than I would have doing it to Rage or any other kingdom.
I did not have sexual relations with Monica. I swear.Quote:
Originally Posted by sydex
I hope you enjoy your dirty acres. Nubwegians on a rampage for glory - just a shame it had to happen this way. Binar already PMed me "**** you" so i doubt anything you can say can make my day worse - unless ofc i discover my car has a flat tire when i leave work.
You choose not to let them have acres for cf only to hostile AMA and farmout to AMA?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCurious
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I don't see how us been bigger them them give you any reason to hit THEM.Quote:
Originally Posted by GorM
Really what have jerks done to you? dumb to even try to make it look like your not just hitting in to a active hostile , but atleast it's nice to see that pewpew is just as dirty as the kd's they been talking **** about this age.
If i choose to mass reset, intra raze or mass delete it is my right to do so. If i choose to retal hits from AMA and Pew Pew, again its my right to do so. But dude, you try fighting 2 kds 80-100k bigger then you, at the same time. We worked hard to get here, and we offered good deals to the kds below us, that we wanted to fight. This includes Rage, HoH & Legacy. The difference is, we are looking for war, not #1, so we dont need to do crazy stuff to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
Just use Elit's sole defense Pew: it's fake war, therefore you are allowed to hit in. (If you were unaware, Elit will be promoted to Bishop's position next age)
Problem solved, I have now helped you acquire free acres 3x this age, you are welcome.
Of course, I don't claim to be unbiased but then neither are you. I can however honestly say that I would feel the same if it had been an abs kd backstabbing another abs kingdom and then getting punished for it. Possibly I'd be a little smug at Abs tearing themselves apart but still, I'd support such an action and the reasoning behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Pewpew noticed you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCurious
You run into hostile with AMA who are even bigger. So obvious farmout.
It is your "right" to farm out to whoever you want?
Im not saying you're doing anything wrong, but AMA hit into a war because they noticed and wanted acres they couldnt get.
I'm pritty sure jerks would choose to fight none of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
no no no.. i meant us.. US.. when SWEA waved into our war they were bigger than us.. when AMA hit into our war they were bigger than us.. if they weren't, would they have? i have nothing against jerks.. i just follow orders.. ^_^ oh and my opinion is mine alone.. PEW PEW has petrified.. read his post.. ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Aos
jerks got waved by AMA how is that there foult lolQuote:
Originally Posted by alan03
Nice move jerks. You earned that "double" hostile. Enjoy it.
an hour before notice was up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aos
Obviously not planned at all.
Obviously. They tried to jump us, who were not nearly as big as AMA or Pew compared to them currently, WHILE we were all on extreme sci with 30% draft and still lost. I know they are crazy, but I don't think they are that crazy. Trying to get in Elit's good books for next age is a smart move, after all, all the other "aabs" alliance are just rotating on his piece and have 0 balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
Not like we can wait more if we want there acers , only sad thing here is that you hade to hit in to our 1v1 and prove that your just as bad as swea/ama that you been **** talking so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
Alan is not in Pewpew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aos
Again. If pewpew did not wave into 'hostile' AMA would have won on both occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elldallan
Won hitting into an active war.
Won by organising a farmout under pewpew's nose.
so you want pewpew to sit back and get **** played in both occasions?
it's not a organised farmout , we hade a none deal CF with jerks.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
i think the whole point of aabs was based around abs... hence the name? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sig
so without abs there is no alliance? hahaha
this !Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
So let's get this straight. In your "active hostile" with AMA you made 5 hits for 3k acres. You just happened to leave the rest of your armies home so you could retal pew pew when their notice was up the next hour with 15 hits for 9.6k acres. Make your hits into AMA if you want to claim double hostile. From the news it looks like you made enough hits on AMA that you could cry in the forums about double hostile, and not any more.
Edit: My bad, 17 hits for 9.9k acres.
And all this is why ABS up top isnt a bad thing. Our age up top we had one "deal break" Rage took 5 more acres than they promised for a cf....thats some horrible play by ABS if you as me. Only other real annoyance that age was PewPew hiting into our war when we dodged them for a silly war, But i used rage to block pewpew so we could even do that war and petrified apologized for the hits later so whatever. Still, compare that to the whole top this age has had this age from the majority of wars being outside declare range (<80%) to constant yuck actions and it looks like happy fun times. I feel for you MrCurious but at least now you get to chose if u want to give pewpew/ama a crown. Its not hard to go to 200 points by 100 taping the smallest prov in either kd. I'd think about it for a while first, would try not to think that pewpew ****played you more like they're just trying to recoup from the they've gotten all age, just sux that it has to occur on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCurious
That's exactly what it is, Pendel came to you whining about our notice and you organized with him to wave one hour before. That's the definition of organization.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aos
I might add Jerks kept at least 8 attacker armies home, for 1-2 hours after AMA hit them. Definitely an active hostile, nothing planned here to give AMA land and hit PewPew. Right?
Why didn't Pew just hit AMA and be done with it? It seems like their quarrel is with each other and Jerks is just a middle man so that they can play farmout games.
AMA and Pew should just hash it out in war.
So when AMA hits into spewspew's conflict; it's Elit stealing Binars acres and AMA is 'winning', but when pewnoobs hit into AMA conflict it's stopping jerks from farmout?Quote:
Originally Posted by alan03
When AMA "organise a farmout" 1 hour before non-allied spewspew notice is up; its ****play, but when PewPew go behind their allies back to break CF to organise a farmout 1 hour before AMA notice is up, it's fine but its ****play to stop the farmout changing the balance of power?
This thread is so funny, cognitive dissonance is awesome.
I have touched on this already, multiple times: 0 balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofgortens
So AMA noticed Deba, pewpew hits Deba 3 hours before end of notice - no problemo, cool stuff
Pewpew noticed Jerks, AMA hits Jerks before notice expired - dirtiest play there is :)
And before u add anything about farm out. Compare acres gained by
AMA in wave oow and wave on Jerks now.
Pewpew war with Deba and now wave on Jerks.
Then tell me who gained the most and who farmed acres.
You do realize that they just did what you did because you did it to them first, right? I don't think the semantics behind the actions mean a whole lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
I think PewPew has earned the right to hit into some hostiles. They've been screwed out of just about every conflict they've tried to get into this age