Why is pew pew so mad

[Maximo]

Crown 4 bin bin?

[Aos]

you seem to be forgetting the same size part? and it was an active war.. keyword here is war..

So we don't respect hostile but we should respect war? , and size got nothing to do with it.

hitting in to any 1v1 kd activity hostile/war is lame , don't matter how you try to twist it.

[Sig]

Elldallan, your opinion is biased due to your former play with Elit. The rest of utopia disagrees with you. Waving into an active war is unacceptable and should be met with action. What I would have liked to see here is BB and Pewpew doing a joint wave on AMA after they waved Jerks.

The real joke here is that AMA and SWEA already did this to Pew, and they did nothing..twice. Why not go for the triple crown?

slippery slope is slippy

[MrCurious]

Noticed jerks.
Jerks offered 1 free wave for eoacf.
Jerks went back on their offer and said they will farm out to AMA instead.
Jerks went to AMA and arranged said farmout.
AMA waved 1h before notice was up.
Jerks made a few hits back on AMA only to claim hostile, keeping most of their armies home and not hitting AMA on purpose.
We waved Jerks.
All the people holding armies in Jerks hit us back.
Jerks being farmed just like they wanted.
Stuff to do before eoa. Orcs LLing thousands of acres which is hilarious.
The end.

Edit: and lol @ comparing hitting into a legit war between same size opponents to hitting into an admitted farm arrangement.

We did not say we would farm out to AMA Petrified. Stop fabricating lies. There was never a clear cut deal for 1 wave for a EoA CF. I brainstormed solutions with you, so i had something to bring to my council. Again, stop fabricating lies. I offered you to reinstate notice/cf if i guaranteed AMA would get none of our acres, to keep a status quo between #1 and #2. You turned us down. Basically you told me "welcome to utopia, rough". You chose to mass reset last age because you goofed us wanting to war Proteus, then realizing that wasn't smart. We chose not to give you acres you needed to catch up to AMA. You hit into a legit hostile, so you look like the greedy fool on a quest for acres. Some ugly faces are being shown here, and it is totally uncalled for. We in Jerks played fair all age and honored the deals we made. Ty for ****playing us in return.

[sydex]

We in Jerks played fair all age and honored the deals we made. Ty for ****playing us in return.

We know all about it..

[GorM]

So we don't respect hostile but we should respect war? , and size got nothing to do with it.

hitting in to any 1v1 kd activity hostile/war is lame , don't matter how you try to twist it.

lol at your arguement.. saying "hitting in to any 1v1 kd activity hostile/war is lame , don't matter how you try to twist it." so who did that 1st? and lol! sizes are part of war.. or are your eyes blinded by the huge acre advantage you currently have? ^_^

[Elldallan]

"backstab" or not they did not break any deal. You decided to wave into a war because of it and then do the same "backstab".

so you win by waving into a war, and expect to win again doing the same "backstab".
You cant have it both ways.

They broke the spirit of of cooperation that's the whole point behind an alliance, I'd say thats the same thing as breaking the deal the alliance is based on because that deal is worthless unless you can trust your supposed allies and you obviously can't trust pewpew after that move, so I'd say pewpew's move made any alliance and thus the agreements of that allaince null and void as far as pewpew was concerned.

I didn't win anything, as I have said on multiple occasions I don't play with AMA(tho I admit having played with Elit quite a few ages so I can't claim to be unbiased).
But to answer your question. In short yes, there is no problem with this "move" the only problem was that pewpew were supposed to be allied with AMA, that trust was betrayed the first time so personally I would consider any alliance with pewpew null and void and thus I would have no more problem doing something like that to pew than I would have doing it to Rage or any other kingdom.

[MrCurious]

We know all about it..

I did not have sexual relations with Monica. I swear.
I hope you enjoy your dirty acres. Nubwegians on a rampage for glory - just a shame it had to happen this way. Binar already PMed me "**** you" so i doubt anything you can say can make my day worse - unless ofc i discover my car has a flat tire when i leave work.

[alan03]

We did not say we would farm out to AMA Petrified. Stop fabricating lies. There was never a clear cut deal for 1 wave for a EoA CF. I brainstormed solutions with you, so i had something to bring to my council. Again, stop fabricating lies. I offered you to reinstate notice/cf if i guaranteed AMA would get none of our acres, to keep a status quo between #1 and #2. You turned us down. Basically you told me "welcome to utopia, rough". You chose to mass reset last age because you goofed us wanting to war Proteus, then realizing that wasn't smart. We chose not to give you acres you needed to catch up to AMA. You hit into a legit hostile, so you look like the greedy fool on a quest for acres. Some ugly faces are being shown here, and it is totally uncalled for. We in Jerks played fair all age and honored the deals we made. Ty for ****playing us in return.

You choose not to let them have acres for cf only to hostile AMA and farmout to AMA?
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[Aos]

lol at your arguement.. saying "hitting in to any 1v1 kd activity hostile/war is lame , don't matter how you try to twist it." so who did that 1st? and lol! sizes are part of war.. or are your eyes blinded by the huge acre advantage you currently have? ^_^

I don't see how us been bigger them them give you any reason to hit THEM.

Really what have jerks done to you? dumb to even try to make it look like your not just hitting in to a active hostile , but atleast it's nice to see that pewpew is just as dirty as the kd's they been talking **** about this age.

[MrCurious]

You choose not to let them have acres for cf only to hostile AMA and farmout to AMA?
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If i choose to mass reset, intra raze or mass delete it is my right to do so. If i choose to retal hits from AMA and Pew Pew, again its my right to do so. But dude, you try fighting 2 kds 80-100k bigger then you, at the same time. We worked hard to get here, and we offered good deals to the kds below us, that we wanted to fight. This includes Rage, HoH & Legacy. The difference is, we are looking for war, not #1, so we dont need to do crazy stuff to get it.

[Sig]

Just use Elit's sole defense Pew: it's fake war, therefore you are allowed to hit in. (If you were unaware, Elit will be promoted to Bishop's position next age)

Problem solved, I have now helped you acquire free acres 3x this age, you are welcome.

[Elldallan]

Elldallan, your opinion is biased due to your former play with Elit. The rest of utopia disagrees with you. Waving into an active war is unacceptable and should be met with action. What I would have liked to see here is BB and Pewpew doing a joint wave on AMA after they waved Jerks.

Of course, I don't claim to be unbiased but then neither are you. I can however honestly say that I would feel the same if it had been an abs kd backstabbing another abs kingdom and then getting punished for it. Possibly I'd be a little smug at Abs tearing themselves apart but still, I'd support such an action and the reasoning behind it.

[alan03]

If i choose to mass reset, intra raze or mass delete it is my right to do so. If i choose to retal hits from AMA and Pew Pew, again its my right to do so. But dude, you try fighting 2 kds 80-100k bigger then you, at the same time. We worked hard to get here, and we offered good deals to the kds below us, that we wanted to fight. This includes Rage, HoH & Legacy. The difference is, we are looking for war, not #1, so we dont need to do crazy stuff to get it.

Pewpew noticed you.
You run into hostile with AMA who are even bigger. So obvious farmout.
It is your "right" to farm out to whoever you want?

Im not saying you're doing anything wrong, but AMA hit into a war because they noticed and wanted acres they couldnt get.

[Aos]

You choose not to let them have acres for cf only to hostile AMA and farmout to AMA?
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I'm pritty sure jerks would choose to fight none of us.