Public Apology

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

5. GB Sparta

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You need new mantra.
We were all watching you cry entire last age how you gona be gb'ed here on forums, only to have nothing happen ... well except you dealbreak with weaksauce excuse ... just like Jesters did this age.

Now *IF* i was a betting man ...

I would say your cf with Pandas expired while Jesters were stalling
I would say you are not willing to extend Pandas cf


Pretty safe bet imo

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Haters simply can't stand a cheating ghetto

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There ... I fixed it for you

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Say ... my memory isnt what it used to be ... werent Jesters that KD that had "bart for president" banner for like half last age ?

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Originally Posted by citadela01

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Say ... my memory isnt what it used to be ... werent Jesters that KD that had "bart for president" banner for like half last age ?

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Bart - Make Utopia Great Again

Now minimal knowledge of the politics of the US would suggest something to you...

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

1. Block Spartans OOP

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You got waved by the U and had to CF them, we arent related to this.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

2. Send in multis to hit Sparta's banks

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Those guys hit us too, bb and plenty of others kds, we arent related.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

3. Send in FS to further block Sparta

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FS just waved you and you had to CF them because you werent ready to fight them.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

4. Get a farm-war for which you can blame Sparta

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Accusing us of Farm-war too now ? We dont blame anyone, we just answer questions based on your actions.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

5. GB Sparta

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Guilty conscience ?

If you're going to spew nonsense without evidence, I am allowed to as well! FYI, we warred FS and didn't whine about it. Now, let's keep this civil and leave false accusations inside your KD chat.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

If you're going to spew nonsense without evidence, I am allowed to as well! FYI

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Its good you admit to spewing nonsense, step in the right direction !

As far as my statements go ... I was simply pointing out know facts, and asking questions.

Tbh I DID make few speculations as well ... and they got confirmed by Capo ...

In fact the only speculation I made that didnt got confimed is that your cf with pandas expired while Jesters stalled them, and you are refusing to extend it.

Feel free to comment on accuracy of my speculations ... enlighten us my prince of coincidence.

Love the idea of Bart the puppet master, when clearly he's too busy jerking himself silly over Singa girls when he should be writing his thesis to pull such strings...don't worry Bart, I know how these go. Remember to hydrate!

Forcing someone to CF with 0 proof of evidence should be taken as a dealbreak from every party that tries to force this. It is a really sad example of how lost you ppl are over a game. It is embarrassing to everyone who plays this game that this is what it comes to.

i'm just happy to see a ****playing kd turned green...make no mistake bart + jesters are in it together w/o question

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Originally Posted by Osaze

Forcing someone to CF with 0 proof of evidence should be taken as a dealbreak from every party that tries to force this. It is a really sad example of how lost you ppl are over a game. It is embarrassing to everyone who plays this game that this is what it comes to.

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You dont undertand how people can think it look bad when jesters claim sparta is their allies, they db us a few days before we could possibly have noticed bart(which jesters said they thought we would), jesters told us in war they would wd when sparta was ready to take us on after the war and now that they do wd sparta dont want to extend..? Even if all what jesters is saying would be lies it still look pretty bad? I dont think anyone expect them to extend 2 weeks but it would look better on spartas part to give a kd a few days extra to recover after a situation like that, specially when its the kd that jester claims to be allied with.. but also that would make it harder for sparta ofc.

What was the size difference between you and Jesters at the start of hostile? How did hostile begin?

Jesters is wrong for saying they are allied with Bart?

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Originally Posted by vir

You dont undertand how people can think it look bad when jesters claim sparta is their allies, they db us a few days before we could possibly have noticed bart(which jesters said they thought we would), jesters told us in war they would wd when sparta was ready to take us on after the war and now that they do wd sparta dont want to extend..? Even if all what jesters is saying would be lies it still look pretty bad? I dont think anyone expect them to extend 2 weeks but it would look better on spartas part to give a kd a few days extra to recover after a situation like that, specially when its the kd that jester claims to be allied with.. but also that would make it harder for sparta ofc.

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I understand that you will say whatever you can for an advantage.

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Originally Posted by Panthira

What was the size difference between you and Jesters at the start of hostile? How did hostile begin?

Jesters is wrong for saying they are allied with Bart? I am allied with Emeriti, so if I war someone who wants to war Emeriti, and I refuse to back down, that makes Emeriti an accomplice? That seems rather unfair and burdensome.

And for the record, I would block for Emeriti, but that doesn't mean they agreed to it or approve of me doing it. Rather the opposite in fact. Lol

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The war started when we just had switched over to 50% guilds sat on 30-40% draft and were a few hours away from doing our first elitepump. It started by us getting dealbroken as you probably heard and we had to sit and take hits for 3 days losing 8-9k land before we had drafted up an army that was similar size to theirs, losing that much land during hostile ofc effected our prep and they also stole a lot of our money. At start of war i think they were 52k land and we were 50k land or so but when they dealbroke us we were 45k vs 60k or something along those lines. They just came out from a 3 day fort pump though which we also badly needed.

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Originally Posted by Osaze

I understand that you will say whatever you can for an advantage.

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Feel free to point out what im wrong about.

No worries, I believe Bart is not that dumb to wave/notice you right after you exit eowcf.
Otherwise, it really becomes too obvious.

I'm just surprised Bart didn't hit the race tab on the kingdom page vs FS. Besides a recent age where they ran a triad, most ages it's the manifesto of dual Viking horn strategy.

there are three primary competitors for #1 land, sparta emeriti and notpandas (BB not competing?) . Emeriti ate waves from many kds oop, sparta got fsud by a kd that blatantly abused the fort bug to get a free second fort after dropping their own oop fort after 24 ticks. Neither kd got any one swooping in to save them or special deals afterwards, no acres restored, no competition standing down. Pandas did get help with dealing with a DB, as they should have. After all this pandas is still #1, still significantly larger than sparta, and will have at absolute minimum six days to prep on that extra acreage. simmer down ppl.

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Originally Posted by beans

simmer

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You just do not mis-spell sinners with Steel there in Non-Pandas!

Lame

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Well I guess we've been building towards this all age right?

1. Block Spartans OOP
2. Send in multis to hit Sparta's banks
3. Send in FS to further block Sparta
4. Get a farm-war for which you can blame Sparta
5. GB Sparta

Classic top-play guys. Also funny because people in your KD told me that Pandas wouldn't go after us so we had nothing to worry about. Haters simply can't stand a warring-tier ghetto kicking your asses.

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Wut what? Bart, I think at this point not many in the top is gonna buy your ^^^ accusations. Nonpandas was waved right oop by a 25 man kingdom and went to war with them and won. While spartans was doing something else. Idk ... we were too busy warring. Now we are sending multis? And sending FS at you? WTF Bart enough is enough. And even tho im in nonpandas i think enough peeps know that if its one thing I wont do or respect is to cheat or multi. I would not be here if any of that **** happen. We play fair and square.

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Originally Posted by Loons

Wut what? Bart, I think at this point not many in the top is gonna buy your ^^^ accusations. Nonpandas was waved right oop by a 25 man kingdom and went to war with them and won. While spartans was doing something else. Idk ... we were too busy warring. Now we are sending multis? And sending FS at you? WTF Bart enough is enough. And even tho im in nonpandas i think enough peeps know that if its one thing I wont do or respect is to cheat or multi. I would not be here if any of that **** happen. We play fair and square.

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I already said it's BS myself :P

I have no proof but it is awfully convenient, no? If you guys are allowed to bring forth ridiculous arguments without any basis in fact or truth, so am I!

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Originally Posted by vir

jesters told us in war they would wd when sparta was ready to take us on after the war a

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Any proof anyone from the leadership said that?

People in my KD tell me to wave CFed KDs all day. They also post crazy stuff on war-forums. I am by far the most moral player in Spartan (after Beans).

Pierniczek,

We dont need proof, you guys said enough bull****s in forums/war forums, and that included to block us for the others. Didnt you say that like 100 times ? You talking here trying to protect your friend makes even more sense, keep going.

As for Bart, we dont really need any proof, people can see by their own what you are doing. You play dirty just like you did last age versus FS.

Is the game that hard for you Bart so you need 2 kds in top to interact and others to DB for you so you dont get noticed ?

-You helped Jesters last age, they had Bart for president as kd name most age.
-We got DB by Jesters 35 hours after refusing your extention.
-Our cf expired when we were at war; we approached you aslong as many others leaders. They all understood our situation and gave us extention, you were the only one to not give it and planed to jump us and vulture us oow. ( we have logs of that ) Coincidence again ?
-Quick after mintime when we contacted Jesters for a possible WD and to dip, you were directly aware of it and came to talk to us.
-Jerters confirmed us you 2 were allies, Jesters knew exactly when NonPandas & Bart CF would expire etc.
-To be honest, I always hoped you wouldnt be involved into this mess Bart, but all your actions so far since day 1 confirm the opposite.

Lets see whats coming next :))

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

Pierniczek,

We dont need proof, you guys s

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uhhhhhhhhhhh

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

Pierniczek,

We dont need proof, you guys s

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http://i.imgur.com/YtTYqVx.gif

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

they had Bart for president as kd name most age.

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Again, anyone with minimal knowledge of the US campaign will know that

Bart - Make Utopia Great Again

Is not a Bart for President, imho i'd actually consider it a pun....

Stop posting ignorant things.... If you are uncertain, don't post...

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

We dont need proof,

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

( we have logs of that )

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So you do or don't need proof?

And to inform the community, Pandas refused to offer a reasonable CF deal and were unable to give even a CF date. Looks like they want more of our land even though they already farmed us for 20k acres.

Hostile actions against us will continue even tho we lost 16 provs, withdrew and apologised.

Have a good day. :)

We came to a deal that you refused (concerning your top provs). It didnt include giving us any land. As for the date, I told you we would get back to you.

As for your kd that got farmed, you asked for that.

Damn... Cappo that is cold. Shouldn't you let them go? 16 dead provs.

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Originally Posted by Panthira

Damn... Cappo that is cold. Shouldn't you let them go? 16 dead provs.

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You do realize we are trying to get a deal? Also that they promised to raze us into wars all age and a lot of other bs and now we are expected to give them a eoa and forget about it? Lets hope that they keep the cf this time! Because they didnt last time.. Would you want a kd like that sitting on 6k 4k provs? Just waiting to be taken by your competition.. ?

All this about razing into our wars was written over and over in the warforum which went missing right as they wd.

Also that they "gave" us 20k land? They fcking dealbroke us and made us lose all gc and a lot of time to get our provs in solid shape.. Sorry that we took some land from you when you dealbroke us..

We are trying to get a cf done which is a lot more then what other would have done with a kd we know dont respect cfs.. Thats already a lot more trusting then what some people would do.

Could you give a recent example where a kingdom got more than. 16 prova killed as a punishment? :P

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Originally Posted by Korp

Could you give a recent example where a kingdom got more than. 16 prova killed as a punishment? :P

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No but can you give a recent example where a kd would dealbroke and then refuse to leave the war for 7 days just to try to block someone until other people could take care of them? This is absalom+ lvl bs. Not even they first db to enable another kd to vulture.. (Which was jesters intention)

Edit: also to clearify we told them we would just start razing them down(with help) if they didnt wd, until they would.. they were well aware this would come and its not like its done as some punishment after they already gave up right.. ? It happen as a takedown while the db was in action to make it stop.

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

We came to a deal that you refused (concerning your top provs). It didnt include giving us any land. As for the date, I told you we would get back to you.

As for your kd that got farmed, you asked for that.

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So lets look at events.

1) You got deal broke and they took 10k land in hostile
2) VIR comes and posts in forums that they will take 10k and then other people can chip in to punish them in GBing them
3) Simians find that they cannot win war against Jesters cos of their tm wall and immediately called in help so once their core is decimated, they can concentrate taking land from top (which is kinda understood)
4) after war is over you still make demands from jesters about future acres?

Didnt you already get much more than 10k acres + all the pool that didnt deteriorate away? (above 10k pool fades away and I dont seem to remember the term)

And then people in your kd come up with conspiracy theories to blame Emeriti saying that they are the ones who actually gained from this?

Pool doesn't decay in war.

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Originally Posted by home.alone

So lets look at events.

1) You got deal broke and they took 10k land in hostile
2) VIR comes and posts in forums that they will take 10k and then other people can chip in to punish them in GBing them
3) Simians find that they cannot win war against Jesters cos of their tm wall and immediately called in help so once their core is decimated, they can concentrate taking land from top (which is kinda understood)
4) after war is over you still make demands from jesters about future acres?

Didnt you already get much more than 10k acres + all the pool that didnt deteriorate away? (above 10k pool fades away and I dont seem to remember the term)

And then people in your kd come up with conspiracy theories to blame Emeriti saying that they are the ones who actually gained from this?

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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte.../whoa-dude.gif

It's just stalling so they can farm out TMs after the EoWCF.

That wont happen tho, those who notice why will know.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Pool doesn't decay in war.

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Yes thank you. So pool doesnt decay in war. ALready you are at a benefit of 10-12k acres + 16k pool saved (approximate) and you still demand acres from them?

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Originally Posted by Loons

Palem, don't you think that posting that ^^^ response is a bit out of line? JanK spent time and effort on posting that, and your response is lame?

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Not really.

You really think Jesters is sorry for what they chose to do? They're probably sorry about the outcome and they might actually be a little sorry about the trash talk that was spewed in the forums. Likewise do you really think the people that were razing them have "forgiven" them? They're still going to consider them dealbreakers and for the next 30+ ages this incident will be brought up every single time that one of those kingdoms wants to pull some **** against Jesters and needs a half assed excuse to do it.


This thread is essentially a "bend over and tell the forums who your daddy is if you want us to stop" post

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Originally Posted by Palem

Not really.

You really think Jesters is sorry for what they chose to do? They're probably sorry about the outcome and they might actually be a little sorry about the trash talk that was spewed in the forums. Likewise do you really think the people that were razing them have "forgiven" them? They're still going to consider them dealbreakers and for the next 30+ ages this incident will be brought up every single time that one of those kingdoms wants to pull some **** against Jesters and needs a half assed excuse to do it.


This thread is essentially a "bend over and tell the forums who your daddy is if you want us to stop" post

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I dont think Proteus, Flogger, Elit or ASF will play for 30+ ages more!

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Originally Posted by Palem

This thread is essentially a "bend over and tell the forums who your daddy is if you want us to stop" post

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Palem would know, since experience and all. It sure seems that way. But they want then to bend over more...