whoa texn agreed with Feint...go to bed and get better :P
again, I have much respect for the Players in FS. They definitely have skill.
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whoa texn agreed with Feint...go to bed and get better :P
again, I have much respect for the Players in FS. They definitely have skill.
unreasonable demands?
the offer was standing right there long before mintime was reached - wd, apologize for gb, wd from crown races..
i laughed at 'shamelessly honor farm' part.. they took this to war with other kds behind them, they refused to resolve it via diplo, they refused to wd - and its our fault for farming them.. you never cease to make perfect sense!
you forgot the no more wars this age part..a few minor details..but hey whats little details among friends you trust
Personally in a perfect World I wish they would withdraw. Your honor would look really good on Ascension or WSK
Food! Food! Fooood! Wtf vikings needs beer and no childish things like food. Or hmmm maybe texn wants to take a chew on a small little elfwoman in disguise ? ������
Get on topic and stop spamming.
REALLY?
Then why are there no outside razes on SS during the whole month of April, YR16?
Here's the full paper for today.
The last 2 razes are these 2:
March 10 of YR16 Forever Coke (##:##) razed 1 acre of hari harimau paku (##:##).
and
March 24 of YR16 Slim Jim (##:##) razed 54 acres of EXPLODE (##:##).
neither one of those are mine. Not sure how many times I have to repeat this, my kingdom had issues with FS. Instead of working them out with us FS insisted on continously threatening me and my kingdom. My kingdom decided we will not take FS' abuse any longer.
My kingdom decided to cease razes when we were asked to as to not complicate matters between FS and SS.
The decision to raze FS came after we(my kingdom) hit them before war and they threatened with GB saying we(my kingdom) are guilty of hitting into a hostile(before it was tagged as such).
If you keep insisting that we(my kingdom) are part of some organized gb , we may just consider showing you what it would look like if we had organized a GB.
Utopians unite.
Lolz Bishop this topic went to pure bs and ridiculous spam about 723 posts ago. Whats the diff of someone throwing crap all over the place compared to how important it is to be and feel like a Viking? This is anti-FS puke thread and Im a part of FS so why cant I raise my voice. People are throwing crap and lies about me and my fellow players for a whole week and Im not allowed to puke back?
In a week from now we all start at 400 acres. Is there a real big problem to find a way to punish us?
Looks like there is division in the head ranks of fairplay then on what happened!!
How is it good faith to force ED into accepting something? How is it fair that FS instigate a GB and dont get punished for it? How is it fair that pyro GB and dont get punished for it? I have nothing to do with the ED conflict. I do however have to do with the threats, DB and GB on my kd earlier on this age that eventually caused my kd to disband. Thanks for telling me to 'suck it up.' I guess nobody should complain about fairplay bullying and let it continue in perpetuity. The 'fire' is what you guys shamelessly do age after age.
As an aside I am wondering if its a coincidence or not that Nesta said pyro is down to 15 players next age.
oh wait, your kd evaded its arranged war with us because they were disbanding, and tried to war someone else instead while still disbanding, but it is our fault that it really got disbanded.. yeah that makes sense too! im looking forward to claims over fs getting involved in climate change as well..
for the record, as far as my kingdom is concerned...citadela threw mud at us twice which I ignored. But 3 strikes and you are out. So when Loiso did it again , that is when I started telling the truth. It snowballed because then other kingdoms also stepped up to tell their FS nightmare experience.
It is your leaders(not all the players) that fudged this up. They could have just said, hey sorry, won't happen again. instead of getting aggressive and insisting they are right, followed up with threats.
Francis hasn't been around long enough to know how i deal with threats. He just treated me like all the other smaller kingdoms. That doesn't make it okay for him to do it to them or us. And while he may claim you guys won...he didn't.
FS leadership and their actions rendered a crown their players worked hard to achieve worthless.
On paper you may appear with a crown, anyone that actually looks at charts knows though you did not deserve it.
You could have won it, honorably, but you didn't.
same story, leaving out parts at your convenience. You may mention that they backed out of the war because by that time they were well out of range of your kingdom while the kingdom they warred was equal in size and nw, or close.
You may also mention that one of the reasons they ended up losing that war , was on account of your actions.
I can't say you caused them to disband since there were clearly issues before. But you definitely didn't help matters.
Anyone that has ever been monarch knows that a loss, any loss, does not help morale. Combined with the feeling that you were treated unfairly that's a death sentence.
This happened this age. it's not that long ago. Next age you may say it's in the past.
Before you tell anymore stories, remember that several people have read the logs.
Eh, care to tell me were this "forcing ED to accept something" comes from? Either there are things I don't know (which both sides didn't tell me - wouldn't be a first flogger forgets to tell details) or you're wrong in every possible way.
A deal was made where ED said they wanted the honor back that Pyro took. We gave them that honor. If you want ED's leaders take on it, I think you gotta ask for Helluva rather than go by whatever Silverfox says (fwiw he said himself his opinion didn't matter earlier in this thread).
Gotta realize there's 2 sides to a story. Obviously there is more to your conflict with FS than you're saying yourself since one side says you disband because of them and the other says that you denied a war agreement because you would disband. I can't be arsed to investigate which of the 2 has more truth. However, benefit of the doubt has it that I'm not inclined to believe you more simply because the first time it got brought up was during this chaos rather than when it happened (why keep silent if you know you're right?).
Sampuan, fortunately logs are clear on this and I wont hold them back like you are doing.
Nearly a week after we asked to withdraw from the war.
Our King:
I know that I am not your favorite person as we had backed out from war with you.
We had numerous intra kd issues pop up and seems we have them about fixed.. my original plan was to try and offer you the fight again in the next few days but x:x has waved us and doesn't seem to have any intent to leave us alone..
FS King:
"Heh, your issues with x:x started like 7hrs ago, you didnt offer them CF and u do retal them quite actively. Why would someone want to go away in such case? :P
Anyway, we aint exactly happy when ppl break the deal made. Still we are not going to double hostile you for sure, do not worry about it. Besides you are already 1m nw smaller..."
Our King:
"Hello. I just got waved by x:x. not really what I wanted to do but doesn't look like they have any interest in backing off..seems like I will have to fight them."
Meteor:
"sure you can fight them, but why them and not us? i could have waved you and not back off as well and just decided to keep away out of respect instead."
You dont have a leg to stand on, aside for 'fairplays.'
Yes you were the final straw that caused us to disband after your GB and wave into our hostile.
And if you are involved in climate change can you please give Europe some damn snow!
1 crown 2 crowns 7 crowns who really cares? FS has the leaders we want it to have. They are there and we play here because its fun to be here. Utopia is a wargame and it has never ever been fair. It has never been nice. It has never been anything else than a constant killing raping slaughtering thieving crushing devastating game. Its a wargame where people are supposed to win something. Winning wars maybe? Winning respect maybe?
For me this game is a game. Its not real life. I dont run around here in my city killing people but in here I can do it. I dont have to be nice and polite to other players in here. I choose to be friendly and nice with certain people who are at the same wavelenght as myself.
Utopia is not real life. I dont hate people in here. I dont love people in here. Why? Because I dont have to.
Its a game. A game. Nothing else than a game. I played since 1999 and its still a game. And it never been fair and nice.
The day its fair and nice its the day I leave and never come back.
Please don't locations, or quote locations without removing them.
Yes, i agree you don't have to.
But what if you did ?
What if you saw beyond dismissing it as merely just only being a game and nothing more ?
What if it could be fairer and nicer and that itself bears fruit ?
What if that day came, and you liked it so much you didn't feel the need to leave and never come back ?
What if you didn't feel torn between feeling absolutes ?
What if everything is real life anyway, even if you didn't want it to necessarily reflect so ?
What if you joined SS next age and we work together to make this a better place ?
If you don't like it here, feel free to return to FS, no hard feelings.
We would mutually hate to disappoint you as well.
Hit anyone of us up. You probably already know who we are in forums.
Logic seems to suggest they did not have much of a say Prot, the minimum they should have got is the honour from FS and perhaps pyro also. FS initiated the GB and pyro were the ones to hit. They paid nothing (aside for a taunt banner). But refer to post 768. Silvefox also claimed that ED did not have much of a say. Zauper also stated ED wanted another fight against pyro.
Yeah I get the 'assume my friends in fs are innocent mentality. If you want the logs you can get them from Goodwhich, Meteor, myself and others. I like the way you say there must be ' 2 sides to a story' and then 'i cant be arsed investigating.'
Gangbang? I think everyone knows what I mean. We were hostile with another kd and you hit into that. Sorry if my definitions are innacurate/did not fit the ones your alliance made for the game.
You know how many hits you made on us. More than enough.
Apologies, think its the first time I'v done that. Hope its the last ;)
when I asked looooooooong time ago what FS definition of a gb is I got no answer. Same with when I asked for a statement about allegations.
You have to understand that if you aren't forthcoming with answers nor will anyone else.
Your intimidation practices may sometimes work in the game because you have backup and everyone knows it. Here in forum you hold no such power. You know how many times you hit them. I know you have the logs.
He used a "wrong" term. But you knew what he meant as did everyone else that cares to read it. You double hostiled after specifically telling them you wouldn't.