Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

**Goodwitch** · 28-12-2015, 17:14

Originally Posted by protector

REALLY?
Then why are there no outside razes on SS during the whole month of April, YR16?
Here's the full paper for today.

The last 2 razes are these 2:
March 10 of YR16 Forever Coke (##:##) razed 1 acre of hari harimau paku (##:##).
and
March 24 of YR16 Slim Jim (##:##) razed 54 acres of EXPLODE (##:##).

neither one of those are mine. Not sure how many times I have to repeat this, my kingdom had issues with FS. Instead of working them out with us FS insisted on continously threatening me and my kingdom. My kingdom decided we will not take FS' abuse any longer.
My kingdom decided to cease razes when we were asked to as to not complicate matters between FS and SS.

The decision to raze FS came after we(my kingdom) hit them before war and they threatened with GB saying we(my kingdom) are guilty of hitting into a hostile(before it was tagged as such).

If you keep insisting that we(my kingdom) are part of some organized gb , we may just consider showing you what it would look like if we had organized a GB.

**DooWopJoel** · 28-12-2015, 17:19

Utopians unite.

**Jonmeister** · 28-12-2015, 17:23

Lolz Bishop this topic went to pure bs and ridiculous spam about 723 posts ago. Whats the diff of someone throwing crap all over the place compared to how important it is to be and feel like a Viking? This is anti-FS puke thread and Im a part of FS so why cant I raise my voice. People are throwing crap and lies about me and my fellow players for a whole week and Im not allowed to puke back?

In a week from now we all start at 400 acres. Is there a real big problem to find a way to punish us?

**protector** · 28-12-2015, 17:24

Originally Posted by lampost

I'll be brief. As has been pretty much admitted by pale and others, those events were only resolved in so far as they were a forced resolution. In fact there was zero punishment for fs in each of those events. The bad light and reputation for fs and their allies are completely of their own making. Continue enjoy your freedom to ****play and db as your power allows.

If there is no proof of ss being behind the gb then I understand why you might assume such. But you guys CLAIM there is proof yet you refuse to show it.

There was nothing "forced". It was done in good faith to repair damage done to ED. Just suck it up and deal with it, it's a thing of the past which only a few individuals like you bring up just to try and throw some fuel on the fire.

**lampost** · 28-12-2015, 17:34

Originally Posted by protector

There was nothing "forced". It was done in good faith to repair damage done to ED. Just suck it up and deal with it, it's a thing of the past which only a few individuals like you bring up just to try and throw some fuel on the fire.

Looks like there is division in the head ranks of fairplay then on what happened!!

How is it good faith to force ED into accepting something? How is it fair that FS instigate a GB and dont get punished for it? How is it fair that pyro GB and dont get punished for it? I have nothing to do with the ED conflict. I do however have to do with the threats, DB and GB on my kd earlier on this age that eventually caused my kd to disband. Thanks for telling me to 'suck it up.' I guess nobody should complain about fairplay bullying and let it continue in perpetuity. The 'fire' is what you guys shamelessly do age after age.

As an aside I am wondering if its a coincidence or not that Nesta said pyro is down to 15 players next age.

**LoRD_SaMPuaN** · 28-12-2015, 17:40

Originally Posted by lampost

Looks like there is division in the head ranks of fairplay then on what happened!!

How is it good faith to force ED into accepting something? How is it fair that FS instigate a GB and dont get punished for it? How is it fair that pyro GB and dont get punished for it? I have nothing to do with the ED conflict. I do however have to do with the threats, DB and GB on my kd earlier on this age that eventually caused my kd to disband. Thanks for telling me to 'suck it up.' I guess nobody should complain about fairplay bullying and let it continue in perpetuity. The 'fire' is what you guys shamelessly do age after age.

As an aside I am wondering if its a coincidence or not that Nesta said pyro is down to 15 players next age.

oh wait, your kd evaded its arranged war with us because they were disbanding, and tried to war someone else instead while still disbanding, but it is our fault that it really got disbanded.. yeah that makes sense too! im looking forward to claims over fs getting involved in climate change as well..

**Goodwitch** · 28-12-2015, 17:41

Originally Posted by Jonmeister

Lolz Bishop this topic went to pure bs and ridiculous spam about 723 posts ago. Whats the diff of someone throwing crap all over the place compared to how important it is to be and feel like a Viking? This is anti-FS puke thread and Im a part of FS so why cant I raise my voice. People are throwing crap and lies about me and my fellow players for a whole week and Im not allowed to puke back?

In a week from now we all start at 400 acres. Is there a real big problem to find a way to punish us?

for the record, as far as my kingdom is concerned...citadela threw mud at us twice which I ignored. But 3 strikes and you are out. So when Loiso did it again , that is when I started telling the truth. It snowballed because then other kingdoms also stepped up to tell their FS nightmare experience.
It is your leaders(not all the players) that fudged this up. They could have just said, hey sorry, won't happen again. instead of getting aggressive and insisting they are right, followed up with threats.
Francis hasn't been around long enough to know how i deal with threats. He just treated me like all the other smaller kingdoms. That doesn't make it okay for him to do it to them or us. And while he may claim you guys won...he didn't.

FS leadership and their actions rendered a crown their players worked hard to achieve worthless.
On paper you may appear with a crown, anyone that actually looks at charts knows though you did not deserve it.
You could have won it, honorably, but you didn't.

Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

oh wait, your kd evaded its arranged war with us because they were disbanding, and tried to war someone else instead while still disbanding, but it is our fault that it really got disbanded.. yeah that makes sense too! im looking forward to claims over fs getting involved in climate change as well..

same story, leaving out parts at your convenience. You may mention that they backed out of the war because by that time they were well out of range of your kingdom while the kingdom they warred was equal in size and nw, or close.
You may also mention that one of the reasons they ended up losing that war , was on account of your actions.
I can't say you caused them to disband since there were clearly issues before. But you definitely didn't help matters.
Anyone that has ever been monarch knows that a loss, any loss, does not help morale. Combined with the feeling that you were treated unfairly that's a death sentence.

This happened this age. it's not that long ago. Next age you may say it's in the past.
Before you tell anymore stories, remember that several people have read the logs.

**khronosschoty** · 28-12-2015, 17:42

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

for the record, as far as my kingdom is concerned...citadela threw mud at us twice which I ignored. But 3 strikes and you are out. So when Loiso did it again , that is when I started telling the truth. It snowballed because then other kingdoms also stepped up to tell their FS nightmare experience.
It is your leaders(not all the players) that fudged this up. They could have just said, hey sorry, won't happen again. instead of getting aggressive and insisting they are right, followed up with threats.
Francis hasn't been around long enough to know how i deal with threats. He just treated me like all the other smaller kingdoms. That doesn't make it okay for him to do it to them or us. And while he may claim you guys won...he didn't.

FS leadership and their actions rendered a crown their players worked hard to achieve worthless.
On paper you may appear with a crown, anyone that actually looks at charts knows though you did not deserve it.
You could have won it, honorably, but you didn't.

Agreed. I mean that is the impression I have about the situation.

**protector** · 28-12-2015, 17:47

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

neither one of those are mine. Not sure how many times I have to repeat this, my kingdom had issues with FS. Instead of working them out with us FS insisted on continously threatening me and my kingdom. My kingdom decided we will not take FS' abuse any longer.
My kingdom decided to cease razes when we were asked to as to not complicate matters between FS and SS.

The decision to raze FS came after we(my kingdom) hit them before war and they threatened with GB saying we(my kingdom) are guilty of hitting into a hostile(before it was tagged as such).

If you keep insisting that we(my kingdom) are part of some organized gb , we may just consider showing you what it would look like if we had organized a GB.

Where do I say you didn't stop razes? You claimed you stopped but we didn't. Your post is 5-6 hours ago. The paper clearly shows no razes in the past 24 hours.

**texn** · 28-12-2015, 17:50

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

for the record, as far as my kingdom is concerned...citadela threw mud at us twice which I ignored. But 3 strikes and you are out. So when Loiso did it again , that is when I started telling the truth. It snowballed because then other kingdoms also stepped up to tell their FS nightmare experience.
It is your leaders(not all the players) that fudged this up. They could have just said, hey sorry, won't happen again. instead of getting aggressive and insisting they are right, followed up with threats.
Francis hasn't been around long enough to know how i deal with threats. He just treated me like all the other smaller kingdoms. That doesn't make it okay for him to do it to them or us. And while he may claim you guys won...he didn't.

FS leadership and their actions rendered a crown their players worked hard to achieve worthless.
On paper you may appear with a crown, anyone that actually looks at charts knows though you did not deserve it.
You could have won it, honorably, but you didn't.

1, Francis is pro, turning more Viking for each day! <3
2, Can we really make ppl having nightmares? Thats a truly awesome feat!
3, The Crown will still fit my n my m8s heads. As Charlie Sheen says; Winning!

**protector** · 28-12-2015, 17:58

Originally Posted by lampost

Looks like there is division in the head ranks of fairplay then on what happened!!

How is it good faith to force ED into accepting something? How is it fair that FS instigate a GB and dont get punished for it? How is it fair that pyro GB and dont get punished for it? I have nothing to do with the ED conflict. I do however have to do with the threats, DB and GB on my kd earlier on this age that eventually caused my kd to disband. Thanks for telling me to 'suck it up.' I guess nobody should complain about fairplay bullying and let it continue in perpetuity. The 'fire' is what you guys shamelessly do age after age.

As an aside I am wondering if its a coincidence or not that Nesta said pyro is down to 15 players next age.

Eh, care to tell me were this "forcing ED to accept something" comes from? Either there are things I don't know (which both sides didn't tell me - wouldn't be a first flogger forgets to tell details) or you're wrong in every possible way.
A deal was made where ED said they wanted the honor back that Pyro took. We gave them that honor. If you want ED's leaders take on it, I think you gotta ask for Helluva rather than go by whatever Silverfox says (fwiw he said himself his opinion didn't matter earlier in this thread).

Gotta realize there's 2 sides to a story. Obviously there is more to your conflict with FS than you're saying yourself since one side says you disband because of them and the other says that you denied a war agreement because you would disband. I can't be arsed to investigate which of the 2 has more truth. However, benefit of the doubt has it that I'm not inclined to believe you more simply because the first time it got brought up was during this chaos rather than when it happened (why keep silent if you know you're right?).

**lampost** · 28-12-2015, 18:01

Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

oh wait, your kd evaded its arranged war with us because they were disbanding, and tried to war someone else instead while still disbanding, but it is our fault that it really got disbanded.. yeah that makes sense too! im looking forward to claims over fs getting involved in climate change as well..

Sampuan, fortunately logs are clear on this and I wont hold them back like you are doing.
Nearly a week after we asked to withdraw from the war.

Our King:

I know that I am not your favorite person as we had backed out from war with you.
We had numerous intra kd issues pop up and seems we have them about fixed.. my original plan was to try and offer you the fight again in the next few days but x:x has waved us and doesn't seem to have any intent to leave us alone..

FS King:

"Heh, your issues with x:x started like 7hrs ago, you didnt offer them CF and u do retal them quite actively. Why would someone want to go away in such case? :P
Anyway, we aint exactly happy when ppl break the deal made. Still we are not going to double hostile you for sure, do not worry about it. Besides you are already 1m nw smaller..."

Our King:

"Hello. I just got waved by x:x. not really what I wanted to do but doesn't look like they have any interest in backing off..seems like I will have to fight them."

Meteor:

"sure you can fight them, but why them and not us? i could have waved you and not back off as well and just decided to keep away out of respect instead."

You dont have a leg to stand on, aside for 'fairplays.'

Yes you were the final straw that caused us to disband after your GB and wave into our hostile.

And if you are involved in climate change can you please give Europe some damn snow!

**Jonmeister** · 28-12-2015, 18:01

1 crown 2 crowns 7 crowns who really cares? FS has the leaders we want it to have. They are there and we play here because its fun to be here. Utopia is a wargame and it has never ever been fair. It has never been nice. It has never been anything else than a constant killing raping slaughtering thieving crushing devastating game. Its a wargame where people are supposed to win something. Winning wars maybe? Winning respect maybe?
For me this game is a game. Its not real life. I dont run around here in my city killing people but in here I can do it. I dont have to be nice and polite to other players in here. I choose to be friendly and nice with certain people who are at the same wavelenght as myself.
Utopia is not real life. I dont hate people in here. I dont love people in here. Why? Because I dont have to.
Its a game. A game. Nothing else than a game. I played since 1999 and its still a game. And it never been fair and nice.
The day its fair and nice its the day I leave and never come back.

**LoRD_SaMPuaN** · 28-12-2015, 18:06

Originally Posted by lampost

Sampuan, fortunately logs are clear on this and I wont hold them back like you are doing.
Nearly a week after we asked to withdraw from the war.

Our King:

I know that I am not your favorite person as we had backed out from war with you.
We had numerous intra kd issues pop up and seems we have them about fixed.. my original plan was to try and offer you the fight again in the next few days but x:x has waved us and doesn't seem to have any intent to leave us alone..

FS King:

"Heh, your issues with x:x started like 7hrs ago, you didnt offer them CF and u do retal them quite actively. Why would someone want to go away in such case? :P
Anyway, we aint exactly happy when ppl break the deal made. Still we are not going to double hostile you for sure, do not worry about it. Besides you are already 1m nw smaller..."

Our King:

"Hello. I just got waved by x:x.. not really what I wanted to do but doesn't look like they have any interest in backing off..seems like I will have to fight them."

Meteor:

"sure you can fight them, but why them and not us? i could have waved you and not back off as well and just decided to keep away out of respect instead."

You dont have a leg to stand on, aside for 'fairplays.'

Yes you were the final straw that caused us to disband after your GB and wave into our hostile.

And if you are involved in climate change can you please give Europe some damn snow!

do you know what gb means? can you also name the amount of hits we made on you?

**khronosschoty** · 28-12-2015, 18:07

Originally Posted by jonmeister

1 crown 2 crowns 7 crowns who really cares? Fs has the leaders we want it to have. They are there and we play here because its fun to be here. Utopia is a wargame and it has never ever been fair. It has never been nice. It has never been anything else than a constant killing raping slaughtering thieving crushing devastating game. Its a wargame where people are supposed to win something. Winning wars maybe? Winning respect maybe?
For me this game is a game. Its not real life. I dont run around here in my city killing people but in here i can do it. I dont have to be nice and polite to other players in here. I choose to be friendly and nice with certain people who are at the same wavelenght as myself.
Utopia is not real life. I dont hate people in here. I dont love people in here. Why? Because i dont have to.
Its a game. A game. Nothing else than a game. I played since 1999 and its still a game. And it never been fair and nice.
The day its fair and nice its the day i leave and never come back.

zzzzz

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