AMA vs sanct round 2

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This age if anything we put up with too much garbage. When I was in tics (mind you it was lead by realest and verm and they don't really compromise) if a KD behaved the way AMA has we would have nap broken and waved them weeks ago.

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And if a kingdom likes yours that would get caught with 0 thieves on a province and ****load of gold you would been laughed at continously for being so stupid :) That you even have the guts to complain about people stealing your gold this age is beyond me when you set it up yourself to be so damn easy.

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Originally Posted by goodz

Yes. Depending on formal requirements of alliance. For example people say HoH is allied with absalom. The requirement being that we have a NAP. If a NAP is the requirement then yes I would contest that Beastbloost/Simians/others are allied. I was told leaders of those kingdoms as well as some others idled in a channel. Their goal being to compete with absalom. They would work together to create favorable but still 1v1 match ups. Which as far as I am concerned is fair.

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A common channel between the KDs never excisted. The only thing we told each other was that we will not hit each other unless we want to have some fun sometime this age. You live in a dream world if you think we are something other then just that. We have entire different philosophys of how absalom and allies should be treated.

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Originally Posted by goodz

Multi post!

Csarmi! just put up a cow and lets let you win age? makes for more fun!

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Sorry, too lazy this age.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

We don't complain and its was result from some ppl drink so much and forgot to train up :)
There is one huge difference in all this story. Sanctuary had much more gold before rob us from now. Its clear they cant gain from it and this only help his alliance mates. Sanctaury started it and havoc send notice same time. Its clear 2vs1 don't matter how you define it. Havoc spend 7 weeks for pump and need this help make them (abs) look like bad losers. Sanctuary still make all what don't favor them but help havoc in long term. We will see how this will end but ABS prove again they cant compete 1vs1 and abuse deals when they meet strong opponent just to can win on any price.

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So what's your point? You're sitting on unprotected gold and no NAPs, you should get robbed. If I found you, I'd have robbed you as well.
Sanc is in direct and in undirect (alliance) comepetition with your KD, they would be fools not to take your gold, imho.

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So what's your point? You're sitting on unprotected gold and no NAPs, you should get robbed. If I found you, I'd have robbed you as well.

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So if there is no NAP how can someone give them a notice? That seems very weird. And you think its okey for two alliances mate to work toghter to take down a common enemey?

Maby its time to end all BS, and start AWAR ??
I was in hostile with KD A, stole from kd B who was in hostile with kd C. got plundered by kd D just before entering war with kd A. I demand old style awar and my share of free acres/sci from it !

So.. abs uses multiple kds to weaken MA. It's not really that unexpected...
And, after coming back to uto after a bit. What is with this noticing.. it's ****ing gay. Go wave eachother.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

We don't complain and its was result from some ppl drink so much and forgot to train up :)
There is one huge difference in all this story. Sanctuary had much more gold before rob us from now. Its clear they cant gain from it and this only help his alliance mates. Sanctaury started it and havoc send notice same time. Its clear 2vs1 don't matter how you define it. Havoc spend 7 weeks for pump and need this help make them (abs) look like bad losers. Sanctuary still make all what don't favor them but help havoc in long term. We will see how this will end but ABS prove again they cant compete 1vs1 and abuse deals when they meet strong opponent just to can win on any price.

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you should know by now when you war 1 abs kingdom u end up warring another and another until 1 of them eventually wins.

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Originally Posted by csarmi

So what's your point? You're sitting on unprotected gold and no NAPs, you should get robbed. If I found you, I'd have robbed you as well.
Sanc is in direct and in undirect (alliance) comepetition with your KD, they would be fools not to take your gold, imho.

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My point is what did Sanctuary don't favor them at all. They loss more gold and will loss more land because cant keep with his setup trade hits for long with us. All what they did favor only his alliance mates and they gave us notice right after Sanctuary start op us. You need to be blind to cant see 2vs1 team play.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

you should know by now when you war 1 abs kingdom u end up warring another and another until 1 of them eventually wins.

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Yes i know it. Was done many times and past. Its why we have standard "ghetto waring setup" :)

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

My point is what did Sanctuary don't favor them at all. They loss more gold and will loss more land because cant keep with his setup trade hits for long with us. All what they did favor only his alliance mates and they gave us notice right after Sanctuary start op us. You need to be blind to cant see 2vs1 team play.

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So they wanted to hurt you. How unexpected!

Its obvious that csarmi dont give a **** about fair play at all, but I guess thats not surprising consider how he had a habit of intentional staying in a war so he could farm the kingdom more and how he like to abuse game mechanics.

Yea right :)

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Originally Posted by Korp

Its obvious that csarmi dont give a **** about fair play at all, but I guess thats not surprising consider how he had a habit of intentional staying in a war so he could farm the kingdom more and how he like to abuse game mechanics.

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True that

Thanks Anri :)

Maybe the Status Quo is just in upheaval because someone other than ABS is doing tricksy play and "bullying" and they dont like it.

everything's a balance. If you come oow with no thieves you can expect to get robbed. But if you rob, you might get waved.

Nasty thieves take 20m gold!!
seems like typical behavior to me.. csarmi nailed it on the head

lol at this entire thread.

I won't even bother explaining truth or reality. Conjecture and speculation is totally more fun!

*this was totally planned, it is a conspiracy, the plotting has been in-depth and very evil*
*hoh was in on it*
*we were keen to war MA again after the recent strong showing we enjoyed against them*
*we hate goodz and want to steal his targets, up yours havoc*
*we sent subliminal messages to ma to make them wave us*
*we have hired spys and assassins to infiltrate the top kingdoms, becareful what you say to your kdmates anyone could be an absalom sleeper*
*again, it was totally deep and planned, not like someone just said oh hey- look that dude has no thieves and lots of money and we all stole it, nope, planned, deep and uh strategic *nods*

Its understandable that Sanc is butthurt after getting shamed as they did so natural they want to mess with those that shamed them.

Hmmm... I thought Elit and dorje agreed to solve all problems via pm in irc and not do it in forum.

Sad.

we are not butthurt korp, anyone in sanc will tell you ma played better and deserved the win. No point in trying to create bad feelings where none exist.

<3 drug

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Originally Posted by LightNing

lol at this entire thread.

I won't even bother explaining truth or reality. Conjecture and speculation is totally more fun!

*this was totally planned, it is a conspiracy, the plotting has been in-depth and very evil*
*hoh was in on it*
*we were keen to war MA again after the recent strong showing we enjoyed against them*
*we hate goodz and want to steal his targets, up yours havoc*
*we sent subliminal messages to ma to make them wave us*
*we have hired spys and assassins to infiltrate the top kingdoms, becareful what you say to your kdmates anyone could be an absalom sleeper*
*again, it was totally deep and planned, not like someone just said oh hey- look that dude has no thieves and lots of money and we all stole it, nope, planned, deep and uh strategic *nods*

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*Chances that it was planned is beyond reasonable doubt, sanct knew havoc was gonna notice, everyone knew, hence it was obviously planned. Sanct obviously is never gonna war MA there was never any question of that but I think MA would probably be ecstatic if you were willing to war them again, give them the button and I'm sure they'll make sure to be in range by the time meter decays.
*lol your sarcasm is entertaining.
*No but sanct obviously won't mind helping an alliance mate by weakening their target, abs has done that sort of thing before.
*lol
*lol
*Regardless of whether it was planned or not it's still 2v1 which is damn faul play but I guess Abs is the master of foul tactics so no one should be surprised. You can't op the kd you know your alliance mate will notice within minutes and not call it staged.

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Originally Posted by LightNing

we are not butthurt korp, anyone in sanc will tell you ma played better and deserved the win. No point in trying to create bad feelings where none exist.

<3 drug

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If there were no hurt feelings why do such a dick move and interfere in the conflict between MA and your alliance mate Havoc/Mercy.

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Originally Posted by Drug

Hmmm... I thought Elit and dorje agreed to solve all problems via pm in irc and not do it in forum.

Sad.

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That probably went out with the garbage when sanct backstabbed MA, can't really blame them either, what sanct did was an ugly petty thing. I don't buy into the claim that there was no bad blood, if there werent them sanct would have steered clear and let MA fight havoc 1v1, not interfere like that.

what conflict...

actually.. never mind.

To keep it more informative:

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from February 3 of YR8 till February 20 of YR8 - 18 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]


** Summary **
Total attacks made: 20 (12,516 acres)
-- Traditional march: 17 (10,586 acres)
-- Ambush: 2 (1,930 acres)
-- Plunder: 1
-- Uniques: 6
Total attacks suffered: 18 (18,773 acres)
-- Traditional march: 18 (18,773 acres)
-- Uniques: 14

** The kingdom of AMA **
Total land exchanged: -6,257 (20/18)
+6,351 An unknown province (13/0)
+25 Get married I want grandkids (1 [1]/1)
-536 Youll go blind doing that (0/1)
-613 Do it right the first time (0/1)
-729 Dont Drive Too Fast (0/1)
-750 Dont forget to use a condom (0/1)
-773 You Are Doing It Wrong (0/1)
-936 Stop being lazy (1 [1]/1)
-976 Get off the couch an get a Job (0/2)
-1,333 Dont end up like your Father (1 [1]/3)
-1,710 Incest Is Best (1 [1]/2)
-2,115 Drink as much as you can (2 [1]/2)
-2,162 Use your brain (1 [1]/2)


** The kingdom of Sanctuary **
Total land exchanged: +6,257 (18/20)
+3,029 Rattata (2 [2]/1)
+1,149 Jynx (2 [1]/0)
+1,133 Magikarp (2 [2]/3)
+1,051 Zapdos (1 [1]/0)
+976 An unknown province (2/0)
+810 Jolteon (1 [1]/0)
+652 Snorlax (1 [1]/0)
+282 Moltres (1 [1]/1)
+275 Kadabra (1 [1]/2)
+170 Rapidash (1 [1]/1)
+47 Weedle (1 [1]/2)
-68 Golem (1 [1]/1)
-195 Dragonite (2 [1]/3)
-462 Caterpie (0/1)
-532 Vulpix (0/1)
-598 Poliwrath (0/1)
-627 Seel (0/2)
-835 Muk (0/1)

Dragons sent to Sanctuary
On February 9 of YR8

Dragons received by Sanctuary
Sapphire on February 8 of YR8

Just out of curiosity, but is AMA's province name "Get off the couch an get a Job" referencing Proteus' imaginary job?

We in top 20.should all gangbang absalom if they powerplay MA. Ffs it is us people who decide what is fair and what is not. Did braveheart whine and cry and let the brittish people take over his land? No! Did Gladiator just give up when his family died? Did optimus prime give up when decepticons attacked earth??? Ffs if havoc abuse this situation we should **** them.over

gladiator deserves better than to be grouped in with transformers...

What if Rage noticed Sanc ...and Sanc is trying to get some GC to war Rage.

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Originally Posted by Anri

Stupid statement and made up from tak3shis mind.

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Which? That you're barely tolerable? I remember you and your members crying in my public when Tivoli waved you and you sending pm's we should be fighting abs instead of fighting each other. I supposed that happened in my mind too. lol.

Plus I receive repeated messages asking us to grow in range of abs so that we can block abs kds and stall them. Not that I would have minded blocking but the kd had other agendas so we went along with that.

That said there is nothing wrong with an aabs alliance just don't go saying there is no pact, what's the point of hiding it. So you can blame abs of being the only alliance around?

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Originally Posted by Darkz Azn

What if Rage noticed Sanc ...and Sanc is trying to get some GC to war Rage.

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that would be odd

And what bad blood? Like target sharing all abs kd's before war? If you target share them, them stealing gc back is only fair to gain what they have lost. Well an apple for an apple would be to get someone to steal all your gc and not Sanc directly, so maybe thats what they should have done. Target shared you as well instead of stealing directly but you started the dirty moves, so case in point don't play dirty then it would be really unfair if abs does anything to you.

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Originally Posted by Darkz Azn

What if Rage noticed Sanc ...and Sanc is trying to get some GC to war Rage.

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Its going to be double hostile!

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Originally Posted by tak3shi

And what bad blood? Like target sharing all abs kd's before war? If you target share them, them stealing gc back is only fair to gain what they have lost. Well an apple for an apple would be to get someone to steal all your gc and not Sanc directly, so maybe thats what they should have done. Target shared you as well instead of stealing directly but you started the dirty moves, so case in point don't play dirty then it would be really unfair if abs does anything to you.

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Its not first time when i deal with ABs. When Dorje start pm me in irc about undead/king rob them or when we ask other ppl to greed sanc for (less duration) when we keep them with greed 24/7 its clear he is turned in "smart" mod and can make any lame move. He did it in past many times. Its why suspect intra alliance farming was normal from us. None asked havoc to drop in game CF from us and after they droped it Sanctuary DID INTRA ALLIANCE FARMING GOLD.

About rund 2, there is noting bad sanctuary to rob from us and noting bad to wave them for it. If havoc had any sense for honor they will reset his notice. Its was basicaly our terms :not give notice in active relation. ATM both kds trade hits/dragons/ops. Clear active relation.

isn't some GC to pump for war all anyone really wants with this game

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Proteus is under my control too :P

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Thats why I farmed you for 30k+ acres OOW in age 51 and you disbanded EOA? I still have the papers of you losing those acres if you want to be reminded.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

None asked havoc to drop in game CF from us and after they droped it Sanctuary DID INTRA ALLIANCE FARMING GOLD.

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errr .... yes ... yes ...100 mill gc for cf!! no gc no cf ... odd must have been a thread about cf ...odd

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Thats why I farmed you for 30k+ acres OOW in age 51 and you disbanded EOA? I still have the papers of you losing those acres if you want to be reminded.

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You have zero sense of humor. My reply is to clear joke post....
Lets don't talk for farming when you was farmed this age.

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Originally Posted by Darkz Azn

errr .... yes ... yes ...100 mill gc for cf!! no gc no cf ... odd must have been a thread about cf ...odd

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So expensive :P

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

You have zero sense of humor. My reply is to clear joke post....
Lets don't talk for farming when you was farmed this age.




So expensive :P

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Simple math excercise:

Which number is greater: 30,000 or 12,000. (Scroll below for answer)


Answer: 30,000.

Proteus has to brag about things that happend years ago which is quite sad, dont you have anything up to date to brag about instead?

I so wish they'd let me post something in this thread, I'm trying not to laugh but it's just too funny.

On a lighter note:

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Simple math excercise:

Which number is greater: 30,000 or 12,000. (Scroll below for answer)


Answer: 30,000.

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!calc 20/30

Most sad part about Proteus is he brag for "beat" Season age 43 and Dreams age 51.

Age 42 was last real age for season. KD was supposed to disband but jolt promote new short age from 4 weeks. We decide to make last play for fun and when week 4 end Season was n1 land/nw/cow. But we all know how good was Jolt and they simple messed it. Age continue for so long and all kd gone inactive. What "beat" Proteus did was get 1 free cow hit for EOA nap. This gave Sanctuary n1 spot. Noting impressive for brag. Only his video orders left from this age.

Dreams was supposed to be 1 age kd. ABS GB us age 50 but we still won land/nw/cow. So we decide to make one another age for honor. 1/2 from all age Dreams was x2-x3 smaller from all top land kds. You know very well how sci points work and there is no way to compensate it when you grow and meet kd pumped most from time. So after middle age we start grow and become factor and only treat for ABS/HoH for n1 spot.

If you are so good make solo kd and achieve something like it. You used your alliance for get CF this age because you are farm.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Most sad part about Proteus is he brag for "beat" Season age 43 and Dreams age 51.

Age 42 was last real age for season. KD was supposed to disband but jolt promote new short age from 4 weeks. We decide to make last play for fun and when week 4 end Season was n1 land/nw/cow. But we all know how good was Jolt and they simple messed it. Age continue for so long and all kd gone inactive. What "beat" Proteus did was get 1 free cow hit for EOA nap. This gave Sanctuary n1 spot. Noting impressive for brag. Only his video orders left from this age.

Dreams was supposed to be 1 age kd. ABS GB us age 50 but we still won land/nw/cow. So we decide to make one another age for honor. 1/2 from all age Dreams was x2-x3 smaller from all top land kds. You know very well how sci points work and there is no way to compensate it when you grow and meet kd pumped most from time. So after middle age we start grow and become factor and only treat for ABS/HoH for n1 spot.

If you are so good make solo kd and achieve something like it. You used your alliance for get CF this age because you are farm.

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Fact #1 in age 43 - sanc took acres from Seasons OOW as seasons could not war and gained free cow land from seasons cow played by elit (sanc cow also finished #1 that age)
Fact #2 in age 51 - Dreams tried to go for tripple crown and failed miserably as you thought gaining honor would offset the sci people have been accumulating all age. YOU gave us notice thinking you had a chance and made a thread about it but got owned badly.

You cant deny the above as it can be verified from chart archive, papers, and threads on forums that have papers posted.

This age you had to vulture oow as it was your ONLY chance to not get farmed by our superior HU sage setup this age. If you are so good why dont we fight for #1 right now. I know, because you are going to lose badly (as cello already admitted) hence you need an eoa deal. If you are better than someone you do not make an eoa deal with them but duration cf so you have chance to fight them again later in age and take acres. Thats what you do to farms. You were the one who asked for that not I. I am way up on acres from fighting you. Also you were the one who gave notice in age 51 and then make a thread in forums to brag about it. But after you saw you would get farmed you arranged double team. Bottom line is elit, I am better than you, if you wanna prove otherwise come and fight me, otherwise STFU and live with being down 30k+ acres in our fights overall.

I do not respect you and think you are one of the biggest liars/cheaters/whiners in this game. All along this age you were afraid of getting owned by Rage but it seems as you should have been worried about other kingdoms who are owning you right now. If you were any good at all you would not exit fort with 0 thieves and low def on your big provs, untrained halfers, and put in a bad spot like this when you can expect to receive notice. Great planning on your part. Have fun not crowning.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

More like you had to vulture oow as it was your ONLY chance to not get farmed by our superior HU sage setup this age. If you are so good why dont we fight for #1 right now.

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So funny, Right now. When we waved you Dorje propose ~~ same "because you are alone". Bu he did it when we spend 1 week for prepare for you and Sanctuary double 2 cows. Now when we let you pump for free during we war you become brave... Come next age pm me oop and we will war.
If you have so much time to post nonsense go get part time job and pay your debs.


Fact n1. Age 43 you was peon in Sanctuary
Fact n2 Age 51 i personally smacked you eoa
Fact n3 Age 57 you was farmed again
Fact n4 you don't pay your debs