Quote Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter View Post
Goodz, you say we are allys with a bunch of kds. I ask, did you see any action fro AMA, or did anyone from AMA told you we are allys with those kds? Cause from what i see you tell us X number of kds told you they help us, X number of random noobs try to mess with Abs and you assume we have something to do with it despite the lack of any actions from us supporting those kds? It will not be the first nor the last age some attention seekers will try to ruin Absalom and i think Uto doesnt require AMA to exist to have it. So i suppose it is quite safe to assume we have nothing to do with them nor we are target sharing.

Second of all it is a bit too late to cf sanc as they took couple of hundred millions+some land. How would you go away from the "alliance powerplay" accusations if we simply let them do that and then war you? For everyone is better if we finish our quarrel with them first.

As for the old school saying "you had millions with 0 thieves". I already said any other situation it would be ok. I mean, i agree it is not right in general, but knowing your ally will notice asap makes the act pretty immoral. Not to mention Havoc have billions atm and I don't see them complain an "ally" kd of AMA is robbing them heavily...

So I'd say double hostile will be a pretty ****ty thing to do so let us resolve our differences with Sanctuary and there is enough time this age to war you.
Yes. Depending on formal requirements of alliance. For example people say HoH is allied with absalom. The requirement being that we have a NAP. If a NAP is the requirement then yes I would contest that Beastbloost/Simians/others are allied. I was told leaders of those kingdoms as well as some others idled in a channel. Their goal being to compete with absalom. They would work together to create favorable but still 1v1 match ups. Which as far as I am concerned is fair.

Denying the existance of a revial group of kingdoms to me seems silly. I played for a long time in "anti absalom" alliances. Be it Brute/Playboys/Heretics/ED or later with Covenent. The formality of tagging doesn't really matter. It is like if absalom didn't tag this wouldn't seem obvious to the casual viewer. You think I don't get robbed all the time. I think I can find 200m gc lost in the last 2 week without issue going through our paper. The game is what it is. The dirtiest age I ever played of utopia was in Cov competing against abs. This age if anything we put up with too much garbage. When I was in tics (mind you it was lead by realest and verm and they don't really compromise) if a KD behaved the way AMA has we would have nap broken and waved them weeks ago. But instead I just gave them like 4 weeks of notice letting them know I am breaking my CF with them as soon as possible as they are s****s.

Then the moment comes that I can finally break it and they wave my allies right after I notice them and claim I can't. I just don't really care. People can argue one side or the other until the end of times. I will go out and drink and our Kd will continue to float. But we will not float indefinitally will you wave a KD way smaller then you and explore up more big provs. :)

Also I am quite easily the worst leader in the top 10 so just leave me alone!