Why is pew pew so mad

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Originally Posted by MrCurious

We did not say we would farm out to AMA Petrified. Stop fabricating lies. There was never a clear cut deal for 1 wave for a EoA CF. I brainstormed solutions with you, so i had something to bring to my council. Again, stop fabricating lies. I offered you to reinstate notice/cf if i guaranteed AMA would get none of our acres, to keep a status quo between #1 and #2. You turned us down. Basically you told me "welcome to utopia, rough". You chose to mass reset last age because you goofed us wanting to war Proteus, then realizing that wasn't smart. We chose not to give you acres you needed to catch up to AMA. You hit into a legit hostile, so you look like the greedy fool on a quest for acres. Some ugly faces are being shown here, and it is totally uncalled for. We in Jerks played fair all age and honored the deals we made. Ty for ****playing us in return.

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Pendel said over and over and over and over you would farmout to AMA to avoid us. He is leadership in Jerks last time I checked.

You saying "1 free wave for eoacf?" is an offer. You yourself said this to me.

You had option to mass reset or raze down and you didn't. 48h is tons of time to do these things.

Still claiming active hostile with AMA when 80% of your kingdom kept army home just to hit us? That's rich.

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Originally Posted by John Snowstorm

So when AMA hits into spewspew's conflict; it's Elit stealing Binars acres and AMA is 'winning', but when pewnoobs hit into AMA conflict it's stopping jerks from farmout?

When AMA "organise a farmout" 1 hour before non-allied spewspew notice is up; its ****play, but when PewPew go behind their allies back to break CF to organise a farmout 1 hour before AMA notice is up, it's fine but its ****play to stop the farmout changing the balance of power?

This thread is so funny, cognitive dissonance is awesome.

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One conflict is an arranged war between 171k and 177k kingdoms.

Another conflict is an admitted organized farmout between a 260k and a 158k kd.

Cognitive dissonance is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

So AMA noticed Deba, pewpew hits Deba 3 hours before end of notice - no problemo, cool stuff
Pewpew noticed Jerks, AMA hits Jerks before notice expired - dirtiest play there is :)

And before u add anything about farm out. Compare acres gained by

AMA in wave oow and wave on Jerks now.
Pewpew war with Deba and now wave on Jerks.

Then tell me who gained the most and who farmed acres.

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Let's see. Debauchery and pew pew are the same size and in war when AMA hits, with many hits on both sides.

When pew pew hits into jerks, they are well out of AMA's declare range and keeping most of their armies home. Not in war, and not holding relations because they made 5 hits.

Well that's fine. But if you start ****playing because someone else did that to you, there is no stopping :). Everybody will use that as an excuse.

P.S. To previous post. We are all talking about farming out. Give me acres. AMA got 15k from that oow wave. Pewpew got 30k? Was there any chance for deba to win the war? And they were not the same size for sure.

How many acres did AMA take from jerks? Let me help u:

Total attacks made: 17 (7,395 acres)
-- Traditional march: 17 (7,395 acres)
-- Uniques: 12
Total attacks suffered: 5 (2,958 acres)
-- Traditional march: 5 (2,958 acres)
-- Uniques: 4

A total of 20k acres gain for AMA from two conflicts. Please show me Pewpew gains and then come here playing the "all mighty and moral" card. We've been accused of farming and that we gained on the back of Pewpew. Yet from both conflicts so far they are up twice more acres. I wish i get dirty played like that everyday.

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Originally Posted by thecaracal

Let's see. Debauchery and pew pew are the same size and in war when AMA hits, with many hits on both sides.

When pew pew hits into jerks, they are well out of AMA's declare range and keeping most of their armies home. Not in war, and not holding relations because they made 5 hits.

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True, this is worse actually. Not to mention Pew and us were not retardedly OOR to begin with.

Maybe you should give them more time next time? you hit them less then a hour after we did.

Yea, I'm not gonna miss this game when it dies.

So much nonsense. AMA and Jerks had blank CF. We know about Pew Pew notice and told Jerks most like we will wave them before notice is over if they cant get cf, but if pew pew cf them we wont wave too. Pew Pew refuse to CF Jerks so we proceed wave. This was real and "mean" wave from us. We was after acres and Jerks retaled us. Pew Pew decide to double hostile. We had choice both kds to keep hit Jerks or CF them. WE choice second.

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Originally Posted by John Snowstorm

So when AMA hits into spewspew's conflict; it's Elit stealing Binars acres and AMA is 'winning', but when pewnoobs hit into AMA conflict it's stopping jerks from farmout?

When AMA "organise a farmout" 1 hour before non-allied spewspew notice is up; its ****play, but when PewPew go behind their allies back to break CF to organise a farmout 1 hour before AMA notice is up, it's fine but its ****play to stop the farmout changing the balance of power?

This thread is so funny, cognitive dissonance is awesome.

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you do one and expect someone wont do it back.
applies for both kds.

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Originally Posted by MrCurious

We did not say we would farm out to AMA Petrified. Stop fabricating lies. There was never a clear cut deal for 1 wave for a EoA CF. I brainstormed solutions with you, so i had something to bring to my council. Again, stop fabricating lies. I offered you to reinstate notice/cf if i guaranteed AMA would get none of our acres, to keep a status quo between #1 and #2. You turned us down. Basically you told me "welcome to utopia, rough". You chose to mass reset last age because you goofed us wanting to war Proteus, then realizing that wasn't smart. We chose not to give you acres you needed to catch up to AMA. You hit into a legit hostile, so you look like the greedy fool on a quest for acres. Some ugly faces are being shown here, and it is totally uncalled for. We in Jerks played fair all age and honored the deals we made. Ty for ****playing us in return.

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Sorry I think played "fair" all age is a fake statement. Your leaders broke an agreement we had all agreed on, despite being on friendly terms for goodness knows what reason.

That said I'm not supporting the double hostile but saying you played "fair" all age isn't a true statement.

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Originally Posted by ofgortens

Why didn't Pew just hit AMA and be done with it? It seems like their quarrel is with each other and Jerks is just a middle man so that they can play farmout games.

AMA and Pew should just hash it out in war.

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Because PewPew cant win and AMA would get horribly owned via razes causing Beastblood to win the age. Neither kd is ready to give up so they fight proxy wars. GoGo PewPew-AMA cold war.

ARGH!
We forgott to clear this with Elit first!?!? The Utopian God and Master?
Bad Pewpew!

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Originally Posted by Palem

I think PewPew has earned the right to hit into some hostiles. They've been screwed out of just about every conflict they've tried to get into this age

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I don't think we earned anything actually.
So far we have been screwed by AMA, SWEA, and now again Jerks. I'm not saying that we have the right to take any acres at all, however let me be clear of my opinion.

I don't consider hitting into our wars is nice or fair. Secondly about backstabbing ally, nobody in our kd wanted to backstab any allies at all, but it was about choosing getting a war, or not. It was foul play by Elit, and a pure excuse to get free extra acres. We all knew that if anyone told AMA anything Strippes would have been hit out of war, and their CF would have been broken. Ayone that claims anything diffrent is just a simple liar. If you hit into war, ofc you re gonna break the cf.

Last, this is all Pendel doing, and I'm quite sure that Elit not taking any acres when this situation occurs would just simply be stupid. Why would he say no to free acres.

However I dislike the deal about the minimal hits so that you can claim "hostile", it's just a lame move in order to ruin PewPew reputation. Elit should have said no to that.
And also the blockage CFs are just crap.

It's clear that this game needs more players ! Imagine how exciting it would get with twice as many players !

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

Well that's fine. But if you start ****playing because someone else did that to you, there is no stopping :). Everybody will use that as an excuse.

P.S. To previous post. We are all talking about farming out. Give me acres. AMA got 15k from that oow wave. Pewpew got 30k? Was there any chance for deba to win the war? And they were not the same size for sure.

How many acres did AMA take from jerks? Let me help u:

Total attacks made: 17 (7,395 acres)
-- Traditional march: 17 (7,395 acres)
-- Uniques: 12
Total attacks suffered: 5 (2,958 acres)
-- Traditional march: 5 (2,958 acres)
-- Uniques: 4

A total of 20k acres gain for AMA from two conflicts. Please show me Pewpew gains and then come here playing the "all mighty and moral" card. We've been accused of farming and that we gained on the back of Pewpew. Yet from both conflicts so far they are up twice more acres. I wish i get dirty played like that everyday.

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That 20k acres you claim to have got from both conflicts sure would've put pew closer to the #1 spot, and that threatened AMA so they done what they needed t do.. Bravo

more..players?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=l1dnqKGuezo

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Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost

I don't think we earned anything actually.
So far we have been screwed by AMA, SWEA, and now again Jerks. I'm not saying that we have the right to take any acres at all, however let me be clear of my opinion.

I don't consider hitting into our wars is nice or fair. Secondly about backstabbing ally, nobody in our kd wanted to backstab any allies at all, but it was about choosing getting a war, or not. It was foul play by Elit, and a pure excuse to get free extra acres. We all knew that if anyone told AMA anything Strippes would have been hit out of war, and their CF would have been broken. Ayone that claims anything diffrent is just a simple liar. If you hit into war, ofc you re gonna break the cf.

Last, this is all Pendel doing, and I'm quite sure that Elit not taking any acres when this situation occurs would just simply be stupid. Why would he say no to free acres.

However I dislike the deal about the minimal hits so that you can claim "hostile", it's just a lame move in order to ruin PewPew reputation. Elit should have said no to that.
And also the blockage CFs are just crap.

It's clear that this game needs more players ! Imagine how exciting it would get with twice as many players !

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or pewpew could just have not hit jerks? not elites or jerks foult that pewpew decided to be dirty aswell.

The only reason AMA knew about the notice is because Jerks went and told them. The only possible reason to tell AMA about it is to farmout to AMA instead of farming out to us. This is all fine, but you can't possibly cry about hostiles when everything is this clear.

None of this is AMA's fault that's ridiculous and nobody is saying that. Jerks wanted to be farmed and they are being farmed, that's all.

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Originally Posted by Aos

or pewpew could just have not hit jerks? not elites or jerks foult that pewpew decided to be dirty aswell.

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This is as clean as it can be, fake hostile=no hostile= you can get hit.

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Originally Posted by Petrified

The only reason AMA knew about the notice is because Jerks went and told them. The only possible reason to tell AMA about it is to farmout to AMA instead of farming out to us. This is all fine, but you can't possibly cry about hostiles when everything is this clear.

None of this is AMA's fault that's ridiculous and nobody is saying that. Jerks wanted to be farmed and they are being farmed, that's all.

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The same could be said about Debauchery running to you.

Based on the totality of the round, I'm numb to these double hostiles. The thing that is really bothering me is the waving into active war. That is crossing a line that a player of Elit's supposed integrity should never do.

Petrified, Jerks are in range of multiple kds they could actually war, tossing a few hits into AMA and eating a few back could have bought them 24-48 hours of minimal hits while "hostile." they could then have started a double hostile with say Rage and had AMA CF leading to a real war with rage. Surely eating only a few hits from ama and geting to hit ama is preferable to fully feeding your kd acres. With that said you dont know exactly how it would of played out, sure their goal was probubly to dodge you guys, and sure u guys got screwed alot this age but im not sure i'd say they arranged a full farmout.

.... thats all i have to say, to all of this

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Originally Posted by Persain

Petrified, Jerks are in range of multiple kds they could actually war, tossing a few hits into AMA and eating a few back could have bought them 24-48 hours of minimal hits while "hostile." they could then have started a double hostile with say Rage and had AMA CF leading to a real war with rage. Surely eating only a few hits from ama and geting to hit ama is preferable to fully feeding your kd acres. With that said you dont know exactly how it would of played out, sure their goal was probubly to dodge you guys, and sure u guys got screwed alot this age but im not sure i'd say they arranged a full farmout.

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Pendel made this thread within a minute of our wave..... Not arranged at all! I think we made 2 or 3 hits before this thread was up

Rage is in a hostile leading to war with Legacy. Jerks had nobody else to hit in top10. They tried to hit HoH but it didn't work out.

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Originally Posted by Godly

The same could be said about Debauchery running to you.

Based on the totality of the round, I'm numb to these double hostiles. The thing that is really bothering me is the waving into active war. That is crossing a line that a player of Elit's supposed integrity should never do.

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I can`t even fathom the activity on this forum if someone else in the top was actually GBd in war. Q Q Q Q Q Q Q q

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Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost

It was foul play by Elit, and a pure excuse to get free extra acres. We all knew that if anyone told AMA anything Strippes would have been hit out of war, and their CF would have been broken. Ayone that claims anything diffrent is just a simple liar. If you hit into war, ofc you re gonna break the cf.

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This is one from reasons to become so mad on both Stripers and Pew Pew. I have so many argues with ABS in past bu i never deal broke them. How you can say im going to deal break Stripers just because you will tell there is set war. Sure im going to be hell mad and argue with Petrified but i wont wave Stripers oow if you had told me in advance and solved it proper. What did both kds is ignore all my pm till war started. You think its going to work and made wrong bet.

Petrified made most stupid choice in his utopia carrier too. Pew Pew never pass in past top 10 land. You are big this age only because you are part from alliance with AMA and BB. You trade your hell important relation with us for one war with Stripers. You cant make more bad choice.

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Originally Posted by Petrified

The only reason AMA knew about the notice is because Jerks went and told them.

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Im play game from long and have many friends and enemy who trust me too. I know you notice rage, i know you drop your notice with rage. There is no way for you send notice other kd and I wont find it.

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Originally Posted by alan03

Again. If pewpew did not wave into 'hostile' AMA would have won on both occasions.
Won hitting into an active war.
Won by organising a farmout under pewpew's nose.

so you want pewpew to sit back and get **** played in both occasions?

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Again, if pewpew had not backstabbed their ally the first situation could have been avoided, either by AMA withdrawing notice or pewpew not arranging for war.
The whole situation is due to pewpew's decision to go behind the backs of their ally knowing full well the plans of that ally.

And if the first situation had never happened then most likely neither would this one.
So no, I don't want pewpew to sit back and get ****played twice, I would have wished that pewpew had not decided to betray their allies in the first place and they wouldn't have been ****played even once.

I am starting to miss Absalom and good old days when they dominated charts. So much drama nowadays ;)

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Petrified made most stupid choice in his utopia carrier too. Pew Pew never pass in past top 10 land. You are big this age only because you are part from alliance with AMA and BB. You trade your hell important relation with us for one war with Stripers. You cant make more bad choice.
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This is the funniest thing I've seen on this thread.. Come down off your high horse, elit. You've done nothing for pew other than become a problem.. Nothing good worth talking about it I can assure you.

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Originally Posted by Elit

Petrified made most stupid choice in his utopia carrier too. Pew Pew never pass in past top 10 land. You are big this age only because you are part from alliance with AMA and BB. You trade your hell important relation with us for one war with Stripers. You cant make more bad choice.

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We are t10 every age for a bulk of it. Half the players are from inso. We've never not been t10. We might finish ages in wars or something like that but that's just for fun.

And the second part is quite the opposite. You would never beat ABS without us and swea. We spent more than a week early age to beat Sanc and completely screwed up our own early growth just to help the alliance. We chose an early age setup just to do this for the alliance. You showed age after age you can't beat ABS without help. This age you finally get enough help to beat ABS completely and then you do all this. Maybe we will help ABS next age and see how it works out for you :P

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Originally Posted by Elit

Im play game from long and have many friends and enemy who trust me too. I know you notice rage, i know you drop your notice with rage. There is no way for you send notice other kd and I wont find it.

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Nobody from my kingdom would tell you anything. That's laughable.

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Originally Posted by Petrified

This age you finally get enough help to beat ABS completely and then you do all this.

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thread win, gg no re


1 pet
0 elit

Cmon Binar where is the love :( :(

Honestly like Pew perhaps has a right to be mad at AMA and perhaps AMA mad at Pew but I don't know why you guys can't settle **** between each other by going at it instead of getting back at each other indirectly by hitting into each others' conflicts. Jerks has had a highly clean age and I see no reason why anyone should hit into our hostile...

if you guys were mad about AMA hitting strippers then you should have hit AMA. It's unsavory of you to hit us when your quarrel is not with us; it's just a huge screw you to people who don't deserve it and now we are enemies on sad terms. I ruv you Binbin but this is mean </3

In closing I leave you all with this excellent quote from George R. R. Martin:

"...why is it always the innocent who suffer most when you high lords play your game of thrones?"

Crown4BinBin!

As the late Al Davis said, "Just win baby!".

Gotta love pewnubs. Last age they ended resetting their provs, coz their leader was dumb enuf to think they can take on Rage :) While we still managed to end in top5 while dealing with whole Absalom alliance pretty much alone.

This age Absalom underperforms and now suddenly pewnubs r so brave. Most likely next age we won't see pewnubs in top10 again ;)

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Originally Posted by Tox

That's exactly what it is, Pendel came to you whining about our notice and you organized with him to wave one hour before. That's the definition of organization.

I might add Jerks kept at least 8 attacker armies home, for 1-2 hours after AMA hit them. Definitely an active hostile, nothing planned here to give AMA land and hit PewPew. Right?

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Or, we texted ppl to get online to hit, but they had work so couldnt drop everything to come hit? See, im the monarch, so odds are i would know whats right, and you wouldnt.

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Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost

I don't consider hitting into our wars is nice or fair. Secondly about backstabbing ally, nobody in our kd wanted to backstab any allies at all, but it was about choosing getting a war, or not.

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Agreed, it's neither nice nor fair but neither is backstabbing an ally, in fact I consider that worse, if you wanted to war Debauch you should have been upfront about it, tho of course Debauch wouldn't have warred you if it hadn't been their only way out of getting waved by AMA.'

Your choice unfortunately is obvious, you chose to backstab an ally for some temporary satisfaction(acres) and you have the nerve to complain that they punished you for it?

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Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost

It was foul play by Elit, and a pure excuse to get free extra acres. We all knew that if anyone told AMA anything Strippes would have been hit out of war, and their CF would have been broken. Ayone that claims anything diffrent is just a simple liar. If you hit into war, ofc you re gonna break the cf.

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I have yet to see Elit break any deals so your "we all knew AMA would dealbreak" is just bull**** until you can offer some actual evidence. Of course if you get backstabbed and ****played by an ally you are going to react, I know I would have, I however would have hit pewpew instead seeiing how you betrayed their trust and the spirit of your supposed alliance. Personally I think dealbreaking is much worse than hitting into war so no I don't think hitting into war is evidence that anyone would dealbreak, on the other hand it's evidence that AMA refused to be ****played.

Still waiting anti-abs to figure out why AMA got dealt with poorly last age?

Perhaps they actually did hit into hostiles / out of hostiles / refuse to do any diplo

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Soon petrified can figure out :)

I wouldn't go that far to say that pewpew backstabbed ama although it's a douche move. They are after all still competitors for the crown despite being allies. They are not in an 'actual' alliance either and can't claim "abs win the age no matter if rage, sanc or havoc wins". With abs out of the race so early, the rest will just have to fight it out for the limited acres and thus the conflict of interest (similar to rage and hoh last age). It can't be helped, only that both sides showed less restraint than abs. Funny thing is, many people have always called for abs kds to fight among each other when they are dominating the charts but now when it's aabs' turn they choose not to fight each other either.

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Petrified made most stupid choice in his utopia carrier too. Pew Pew never pass in past top 10 land. You are big this age only because you are part from alliance with AMA and BB. You trade your hell important relation with us for one war with Stripers. You cant make more bad choice.

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This is the funniest thing I've seen on this thread.. Come down off your high horse, elit. You've done nothing for pew other than become a problem.. Nothing good worth talking about it I can assure you.

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Besides being their ally, otherwise Pewpew would probably make a replay of last age, "OMG WE GONNA GET PWNED QUICK RESET" stunt.

Butt is hurting, Goodz is hating ;)

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Originally Posted by goodz

Still waiting anti-abs to figure out why AMA got dealt with poorly last age?

Perhaps they actually did hit into hostiles / out of hostiles / refuse to do any diplo

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Soon petrified can figure out :)

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Just be a man and admit you lacked the skills to take him on fair so you had to ****play him.

[QUOTE=Korp;15249830][QUOTE=sydex;15249819]

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Originally Posted by Elit

Petrified made most stupid choice in his utopia carrier too. Pew Pew never pass in past top 10 land. You are big this age only because you are part from alliance with AMA and BB. You trade your hell important relation with us for one war with Stripers. You cant make more bad choice.


Besides being their ally, otherwise Pewpew would probably make a replay of last age, "OMG WE GONNA GET PWNED QUICK RESET" stunt.

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lmao, yes it's because AMA was our allies that kept us from resetting. Good thing we have them.. haha