FREE vs CROMULENT - WAR OOP

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Originally Posted by stoffi

I'm not a participant in this trashtalking contest, but you are clearly wrong here. When Godly agreed to war, he automatically agreed to share locs. How else are we to war if we don't know where you are? To me, it just sounds like you are trying to get out of the deal Godly made.

If I were you, I would never war FREE oop because it might ruin your age, not because you might lose, but because other top kds/provs will get a head start nearly regardless of the outcome of the war, unless you go for honor first, then whore later. Too bad Godly's ego is a bit big, because you are kinda losing face now if you don't war us, despite your pedantery.

We are full kd and ready to go, so it's all up to if you want to go back on your previous bold words to whore, and then later, I'm sure your hurt pride will make you wave down from above when you're safe and sound at the top. That's what I think will happen. :)

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But it doesnt work like that, you have to be specific in that case its all in the wording. But its like when vlahul was running his mouth earlier today that he would bet 1k credits that FREE would win honor/warring crowns, beat CR and end up at least top 5 nw/land. But when the bets was to collected he suddenly couldnt send the credits until 3 weeks oop. Weird huh?

Another thing that is funny that you make assumption that I play in CR which I dont.

Now we have 2 famous cheaters think they are all that. :)

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Originally Posted by Palem

Did you check if you have a connection to the internet?

I didn't say anywhere that CR agreed to tag up or share their loc. The only thing I said is that CR has agreed to war FREE OOP. If they do not war FREE OOP, they have broken their word.

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Are you done with dumb questions? Why post at all if you dont have anything on topic to say?

You dont know how implications work Palem?

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Korp, please see my previous post, above. That's clear as it can get.

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There is no factual evidence that supports any of your claims.

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Originally Posted by stoffi

Just read the rest of the thread now.

1. Godly and Cromulent boldly accepts challenge of war due to pride and inflated ego.
2. Godly and CR get cold feet, realising that a war oop is not smart. They break the war deal.
3. Godly and CR are mocked for their lack of character and bold words without action. Dealbreakers.
4. Godly and CR's pride is hurt. They promise GB from above.
5. Cromulent just became the most pathetic kd on the server since Chai had GodsArmy GB'ed by abs after GodsArmy beat his kd in war.


Pathetic. Really. Pathetic. I'm glad I never took the bait and joined your kd, a kd with no spine.


Btw, winning a crown these days, with 3400 players, it doesn't really count. I heard talk about land records, second largest kd ever. Again, it doesn't really count.

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You realize your kingdom is all talk so far as well? Why not wait until some of those promises has been filled before talking **** about others? :) Oh and I guess spine to you is talking **** on the forums with no relevant experince to back you up with. But I guess someone that had to cheat so extensively as you dont have a good grasp of the game to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Are you done with dumb questions? Why post at all if you dont have anything on topic to say?

You dont know how implications work Palem?

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This entire conversation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_49P1RtqU0

Korp: we have admitted our xloging cheating from 2002-2006 period. Everybody did that in top 10 and even more (such as scripting or hacking accounts, which we never did).

If you bring that past we've admitted...from 10 years ago, it only prove you as a troll and loser that keep insulting people. Our 10 years ago cheating, has nothing to do with FREE (this kingdom never cheated!) or with our present kingdom.

So, have a little bit of respect and stop throwing ****s to people. All you can do is throw insults and call us "cheaters" when the age did not even begin.

I think Bishop and the developers are the ones entitled to delete us and call us cheaters. Not you, not anybody else.

And you can be damn sure that they watch us and we are the first to be deleted if any cheated! That is a guarantee.

I will stop posting here, all this talk went in the wrong direction. We will talk ingame, by facts and let the people judge us.

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Originally Posted by vlahul82

Korp: we have admitted our xloging cheating from 2002-2006 period. Everybody did that in top 10 and even more (such as scripting or hacking accounts, which we never did).

If you bring that past we've admitted...from 10 years ago, it only prove you as a troll and loser that keep insulting people. Our 10 years ago cheating, has nothing to do with FREE (this kingdom never cheated!) or with our present kingdom.

So, have a little bit of respect and stop throwing ****s to people. All you can do is throw insults and call us "cheaters" when the age did not even begin.

I think Bishop and the developers are the ones entitled to delete us and call us cheaters. Not you, not anybody else.

And you can be damn sure that they watch us and we are the first to be deleted if any cheated! That is a guarantee.

I will stop posting here, all this talk went in the wrong direction. We will talk ingame, by facts and let the people judge us.

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No not everyone did it, your lack of knowledge is disturbing and what you do is you just rant.


FREE cheated as well, pretty sure of it. :) Not maybe the heavy cheating as you and stoffi did.

Respect towards some loudmouth that just throws unsubustanial claims towards anyonet aht isnt them? Why is it that you are supposed to be allowed to throw "****" at others but nobody is to touch you? Hypocrite much?

You're not that bright if you couldnt figure out that talking **** about everyone else would put you in a bad spot.

But remember what you promised us, honor/warwin crown, 1 warwin against CR and top 5 land/nw.

Sigh. Are we done with trying to get the other one to do something they won't do? No need to post dozens of pages about it.

... WAIT

Please make this at least 50 pages. I'll post a picture in return of boobs (or was it moobs.., we'll see).

Bishop should start charging reading tickets for this thread. This **** is pure gold.

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Originally Posted by vlahul82

Korp: we have admitted our xloging cheating from 2002-2006 period. Everybody did that in top 10 and even more (such as scripting or hacking accounts, which we never did).

If you bring that past we've admitted...from 10 years ago, it only prove you as a troll and loser that keep insulting people. Our 10 years ago cheating, has nothing to do with FREE (this kingdom never cheated!) or with our present kingdom.

So, have a little bit of respect and stop throwing ****s to people. All you can do is throw insults and call us "cheaters" when the age did not even begin.

I think Bishop and the developers are the ones entitled to delete us and call us cheaters. Not you, not anybody else.

And you can be damn sure that they watch us and we are the first to be deleted if any cheated! That is a guarantee.

I will stop posting here, all this talk went in the wrong direction. We will talk ingame, by facts and let the people judge us.

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vlad,
responding to a troll/hate posts is a bit dumb - a troll never listen to arguments nor changes his mind. He just want to troll/hate. Be cool and dont get into explanatory mode. Everybody from the past cheated but recently the devs found it not practical to delete all xloggers and scripters and made sitting and KD invitations legal.
and why you are so sad that CR will not war you OOP? Just build your KD and war whoever you want. The locs always leak and 2-3 weeks into the age you will know who are CR or Pyro or BB... Then you pick your targets and war, who stops you? Grow war and win. gl.

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Originally Posted by Korp

You realize your kingdom is all talk so far as well? Why not wait until some of those promises has been filled before talking **** about others? :) Oh and I guess spine to you is talking **** on the forums with no relevant experince to back you up with. But I guess someone that had to cheat so extensively as you dont have a good grasp of the game to begin with.

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All talk? We are 25 ppl and ready to war CR if they have any integrity. I don't really care if we win or lose, to me it's just fun. :) All the talk about winning "crowns" and so on, that's all talk for now, if that's what you are referring to. We'll see how it goes. I would never claim that we will win anything, I will rather wait and see what happens.

Btw, the good part about having had multies is that you have a lot more experience than everyone else. :) Too bad it's all gone now.

Stoffnub out, have fun. :)

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Originally Posted by Vivic

vlad,
responding to a troll/hate posts is a bit dumb - a troll never listen to arguments nor changes his mind. He just want to troll/hate. Be cool and dont get into explanatory mode. Everybody from the past cheated but recently the devs found it not practical to delete all xloggers and scripters and made sitting and KD invitations legal.
and why you are so sad that CR will not war you OOP? Just build your KD and war whoever you want. The locs always leak and 2-3 weeks into the age you will know who are CR or Pyro or BB... Then you pick your targets and war, who stops you? Grow war and win. gl.

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Might I suggest you read his posts as well, hes a troll himself. So that he gets the same treatment back isnt surprising. That is the sole reason he get bashed so hard by people.

thanks Vivic, that's the spirit. I don't know in what kingdom you are but I wish you the best.

@ Korp, i thrashtalked Godly and nobody else. Don't make it sound "general". All this "war oop" thing started when I stated my personal opinion in his "221 BE topic" that is nothing impressive. He mocked me and we got into this. I've insulted nobody else... and i did not even insulted Cromulent, just argued that their archievement is nothing impressive - as many people did.

One last statement: We only want to bring a new blood in Utopia. We love this game, we like what it become, we are sad that only 3k players. We are even more sad to see lack of competition and other lame tactics "to win no matter what". We will be gangbanged, razed OOW and most likely even OOP - I am perfectly aware of that. But we will carry our cross, we will keep fighting and we will see how and what we will win.

For us, this is fun: to keep fighting and do our best in the only legit way. Let other do the ****s on us, that's another win for us in my eyes. So, my only mistake is: having too much faith in our kingdom of which I am PROUD and I consider it at maximum capacity - just like any other top kingdom there.

Time will prove this, but I am pretty damn sure that Cromulent and others will bring GB and OOW interfear on us so they can do "their own way". I might be wrong (hope so!).

Good luck to everybody and let's war more :) that will improve the Utopia experience for everybody.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Might I suggest you read his posts as well, hes a troll himself. So that he gets the same treatment back isnt surprising. That is the sole reason he get bashed so hard by people.

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I suggest you stop now while some people still might have some respect left for you.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Might I suggest you read his posts as well, hes a troll himself. So that he gets the same treatment back isnt surprising. That is the sole reason he get bashed so hard by people.

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yes maybe he is troll, im not sure if he is even the real vlad or just a troll-kid, but you are trolling too and its funny to read a troll trolling a troll thread :)

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Originally Posted by stoffi

1. Godly and Cromulent boldly accepts challenge of war due to pride and inflated ego.
2. Godly and CR get cold feet, realising that a war oop is not smart. They break the war deal.
3. Godly and CR are mocked for their lack of character and bold words without action. Dealbreakers.
4. Godly and CR's pride is hurt. They promise GB from above.
5. Cromulent just became the most pathetic kd on the server since Chai had GodsArmy GB'ed by abs after GodsArmy beat his kd in war.

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Where did I say we will gangbang him? He claimed we will gangbang him out of the blue..?

I have no problem with an OOP war at all. The problems are these:

1) Giving out our location is a bad tactic from the perspective of a kingdom with crown goals. It immediately puts a huge target on our backs. For them, I know you can consider it brave, but they have no targets. No one knows who they are.
2) There is no guarantee that they will give us the button or use the allies that he has claimed to have to GB us. If you look at some of the pms that he has sent us, he has a very "terroristic" nature to his language.
3) He has also stated that if there is a war, they won't WD until there is a NW difference to force them out. That's not very beneficial for us. We'd like to win in a short amount of time and move on. In reality, his goal is to lock us up into a never ending conflict at the start of the round giving our competition plenty of time to explore up and bottom feed us later. He doesn't care about his kingdom or has any goals other than to become famous for the kingdom that tied CR up for 2 weeks. This is why the news article in your throne page says Godly not falling for the trap. To you guys, it may be fun to have these "challenges" and see good stories and fun wars, but to me this game is cut and dry: you win or you lose.

My statement to him and to every other player in any kingdom is what I said:

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Originally Posted by Godly

If you wave us, we will declare. Don't need to doubt that.

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That is basically all.

There is no argument, threat, compromise or ridicule that can be made that will make us volunteer our kd location at the start of the round. I'm in the business of winning, and that's just bad business.

Godly, what you are saying is perfectly fine if you replaced "If you wave us, we will declare. Don't need to doubt that." with "Sorry my mouth was faster than my brain when I promised the war."
Now it's just a contradiction where you state you are fine with declaring but you don't want to war? LoL

I have never claimed we have allies. We DONT. We are alone, 25 players and that's it. Don't twist my affirmations in which I clearly said that "we are ready for GB and allies interfear". Yours! we have none. You are full of allies, full of friends full of CF... you are the almighty.

I've printed your "if you wave us, we will declare". Guess what, you won't!? Do you know why? you will never declare if you don't feel 100% secure to win (which will never happen since we are always in war shape). When we will wave you, AND WE WILL, i'll bring you this print screen also. See what you will say that time.

My guess is you will run again finding "another twist and interpretation". But time will prove.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Not really, you claimed that Godly made certain promises, you fail to show anywhere or any kind of logs that he actually did what you claim. Then you moved on to the "but the implications are clear" Then when I commented about vlahuls threatning CR you suddenly failed to see the implications even though they are pretty clear cause it didnt suit your own agenda.




How can you know this? Do you have any proof? Its amazing information you sit when you only been back few months.

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Lawyer up , Palem

If anyone can find anywhere that I agreed to tag our kd location OOP, I will permanent quit utopia.

You might think that my statement was an implication of it, but in reality what I meant was what I later said: "If you wave us, we will declare."

This entire thread, topic and trolling is getting ridiculous.

It's the equivalent of a random guy calling out Floyd Mayweather for a prize fight. It's a publicity stunt. If it happens, the guy gets knocked out. But at the same time, why would Floyd waste his time? What do *I*, someone with so many accomplishments, have to prove to this guy or any of you guys? Do any of you guys trolling in this thread or calling me a chicken actually think that this guy has any legitimate chance of winning a war vs us? Do you honestly think that I'm afraid of him?

I have bigger goals for this round that "beating vlahul in a war." If it happens, it happens.

i really dislike people that makes me side with Godly.

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Originally Posted by Godly

If anyone can find anywhere that I agreed to tag our kd location OOP, I will permanent quit utopia.

You might think that my statement was an implication of it, but in reality what I meant was what I later said: "If you wave us, we will declare."

This entire thread, topic and trolling is getting ridiculous.

It's the equivalent of a random guy calling out Floyd Mayweather for a prize fight. It's a publicity stunt. If it happens, the guy gets knocked out. But at the same time, why would Floyd waste his time? What do *I*, someone with so many accomplishments, have to prove to this guy or any of you guys? Do any of you guys trolling in this thread or calling me a chicken actually think that this guy has any legitimate chance of winning a war vs us? Do you honestly think that I'm afraid of him?

I have bigger goals for this round that "beating vlahul in a war." If it happens, it happens.

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Floyd Mayweather never promised the guy a fight then later backed out on his word and you are right - this thread and the entire situation are ridiculous, like you said some of us play this GAME for FUN.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Floyd Mayweather never promised the guy a fight then later backed out on his word and you are right - this thread and the entire situation are ridiculous, like you said some of us play this GAME for FUN.

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Try going up to Floyd right now and punching him in the face and see what happens. That's the equivalent of our exchange. Some guy talking **** and he says "bring it." Well.. if he brings it, he gets knocked out.

And yes, that is the disconnect that I am referring to. You play the game for fun.. CR is on the cusp of achieving something so great that very few kingdoms have done or even come close to. I will only take actions that ensure those goals to be met. I will not be baited by anyone into compromising my goals.

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Originally Posted by Godly

It's the equivalent of a random guy calling out Floyd Mayweather for a prize fight: if it happens, the guy gets knocked out. But at the same time, why would Floyd waste his time? What do *I*, someone with so many accomplishments, have to prove to this guy or any of you guys? Do any of you guys trolling in this thread or calling me a chicken actually think that this guy has any legitimate chance of winning a war vs us? Do you honestly think that I'm afraid of him?

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Utopian Floyd is THEMANGO! You are not even close to his crown count! Utopian Klitschko is Elit, Utopian Pacqiao is Proteus... vlad is Holyfield, an old dinosaur from the past. You are still young to compare :)

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Originally Posted by Vivic

Utopian Floyd is THEMANGO! You are not even close to his crown count! Utopian Klitschko is Elit, Utopian Pacqiao is Proteus... vlad is Holyfield, an old dinosaur from the past. You are still young to compare :)

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I realize you're trolling, but I've been around utopia longer than any of the people you just mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Godly

Try going up to Floyd right now and punching him in the face and see what happens. That's the equivalent of our exchange.

And yes, that is the disconnect that I am referring to. You play the game for fun.. CR is on the cusp of achieving something so great that very few kingdoms have done or even come close to. I will only take actions that ensure those goals to be met. I will not be baited by anyone into compromising my goals.

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You have already been baited, you responded to him. After that all you can do is apologize to make it better but all you do is insist that you are perfect, let me tell you something, this one might come as a shocker, nobody is.

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Originally Posted by Godly

Where did I say we will gangbang him? He claimed we will gangbang him out of the blue..?

I have no problem with an OOP war at all. The problems are these:

1) Giving out our location is a bad tactic from the perspective of a kingdom with crown goals. It immediately puts a huge target on our backs. For them, I know you can consider it brave, but they have no targets. No one knows who they are.

There is no argument, threat, compromise or ridicule that can be made that will make us volunteer our kd location at the start of the round. I'm in the business of winning, and that's just bad business.

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Warring oop is extremely bad for the whoring business, so I don't know why you went along and accepted the challenge, and then pretend it never happened. Integrity, Godly. You took Vlad's bait and swallowed it whole, and now you're trying to pretend it never happened. Just say you did a mistake and was caught in the moment, everyone understands warring oop is bad for whoring. :)

I saw a log of Zauper saying you would take your revenge from above once you were safe?


Anyway, good luck, and don't be douchebags.

Godly, you do realized that you have just sealed your faith now, right?

With FREE on your back..ALWAYS, we will die trying! or win over you.

Your only advantage over FREE died in this topic: your allies. If you will bring any GB and allied interfear in our 1v1 hunting, CR will be worse than Suicide Squad last age.

Therefore, you are forced to a 1v1 fight with us. We won't give up, we will keep waving and waring CR until you are out of top 10 (as I promised) or until FREE dies.

So, you lost your own advantage over us: allies and GB.

Now it is a 1v1 fight with two super active kingdoms - every kingdom has its own tactic and beliefs. One of these two kingdoms will be a BIG LOSER this round.

We have nothing inferior to Cromulent, we have our own brains and 25 active players. I am aware of the fact that you try to Whore out of our NW range and pump as much as you can.

Truth is: you've just won a very huge pain in the ass with us. you will NOT win this round - worse case scenario: some other whoring kingdom will win it... or FREE :).

Take a number, buddy. There's about 50 other kingdoms with the same goal as you. Just as there were last round and the round before that. They're just not as vocal.

That's precisely the reason that we cannot tag.

"I will stop posting here now and let my actions speak" "Keeps postings ****" Not even that promise could he live up to.

Seriously, wtf is with the headlines, how does a known xlogging, trash talking, borderline abusive, braggart end up being referred to as leading the server in morality by example... Someone is serious taking the piss...

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Originally Posted by Avalon

Seriously, wtf is with the headlines, how does a known xlogging, trash talking, borderline abusive, braggart end up being referred to as leading the server in morality by example... Someone is serious taking the piss...

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This is a successful troll if I have ever seen one. Laughed so hard.

Meh i feel bad for the guy. He got caught up thinking the top was honest. Just a bunch of Whiney cry babies... examples?? See pages 1-8. Ruining the game one tantrum at a time

Plot twist:
A kingdom going for war wins and with a proper setup fake tags "CR ready to kick FREE" and gets free war oop.

10-15 pages more and this troll-dramma will beat the "Proteus doesn't pay his debts" show :)

Godly never said CR would war immediately OOP, just that he would war OOP, which would really mean, any point in the age after protection ends.

If we want to be really clever about it, Godly could say that his post meant when he personally is OOP, and then just not join CR until a week into the age, or just have someone else hold his place in the KD, while he doesn't have a prov at all for a few weeks, then make a prov in a ghetto and agree to war FREE once his personal prov is OOP.

Maybe his agreement to war FREE doesn't even apply to CR at all, and it's just going to be godly asking for a shell from Bishop and warring Free 25v1?

Also, vlahul are you ready to stop being a ***** and transfer our wager money to Bishop now so you can't be a proteus and welch on the bet at EOA?

For some background, Vlahul claims he is going to:

1). Win the Honor crown
2). Win the WW crown
3). Beat CR in a war
4). Finish top 5 KD Land
5). Finish top 5 KD NW

And has claimed repeatedly to accept a 1000 credit wager against me that he will accomplish this.

Then when I say lets get a middleman to either paypal money to or buy credits and transfer credits to, he suddenly gets cold feet and backs out on the idea.

Would be so funny if every single kingdom tagged themselves "Cromulent - War" straight OOP.. I'm cromulent.. no I'm cromulent.. we're ALL cromulent lol

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Originally Posted by Godly

1) Giving out our location is a bad tactic from the perspective of a kingdom with crown goals. It immediately puts a huge target on our backs. For them, I know you can consider it brave, but they have no targets. No one knows who they are.
2) There is no guarantee that they will give us the button or use the allies that he has claimed to have to GB us. If you look at some of the pms that he has sent us, he has a very "terroristic" nature to his language.
3) He has also stated that if there is a war, they won't WD until there is a NW difference to force them out. That's not very beneficial for us. We'd like to win in a short amount of time and move on. In reality, his goal is to lock us up into a never ending conflict at the start of the round giving our competition plenty of time to explore up and bottom feed us later. He doesn't care about his kingdom or has any goals other than to become famous for the kingdom that tied CR up for 2 weeks. This is why the news article in your throne page says Godly not falling for the trap. To you guys, it may be fun to have these "challenges" and see good stories and fun wars, but to me this game is cut and dry: you win or you lose.

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My oh my what a different tune ya'll singing...

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Originally Posted by Godly

Yes, I agree to war you OOP. Thanks for the three-peat ahead of time.

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Originally Posted by SnirpsneR

Just declare CR next age winners and move on to age 68?

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Originally Posted by Meep

who does vlahul82 play for, and how much are you paying him to donate the 3peat to you?

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Originally Posted by jwuzi

pssst go wave them next age and show em whos boss!

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Originally Posted by Korp

I think the only person that we all hope is to keep their promises is you vlahul, consider you are all talk with nothing to back you up. But in the end we know how this will end, we wont see you wave CR at all. Which is a bit sad :(

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Originally Posted by Godly

If you wave us, we will declare. Don't need to doubt that.

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Originally Posted by Korp

You talk big, but I am quite sure you wont deliver next age. Cause talking is what you are good at. Lets just look at respective kingdoms, CR consist of a lot of utopians best players bunched toghter while FREE who was rebuilding this age has what? mediocre results.

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Originally Posted by jwuzi

Hey now, lets be nice.

Vlahul please make sure to be in range in order to fight. We don't want to get gb'd you see.

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Originally Posted by Meep

A free OOP war from FREE is probably the single greatest gift any ghetto could ever give a whoring KD.

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One side has delivered everything he said he was going to do thus far, and the other side chickens out. sAD.

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Originally Posted by Palem

My oh my what a different tune ya'll singing...




















One side has delivered everything he said he was going to do thus far, and the other side chickens out. sAD.

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Not seeing where anybody has broken their promise?

Other than Vlahul welching on his 1000 credit wager that he's going to have a successful age.

221% BE thread was full of comments about how vlad could never beat CR.
This thread is full of excuses why CR isn't going to war vlad (despite promising an OOP war)

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Originally Posted by Kestrel038

Would be so funny if every single kingdom tagged themselves "Cromulent - War" straight OOP.. I'm cromulent.. no I'm cromulent.. we're ALL cromulent lol

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Palem what has he delivered so far that he promised? Has Free waved CR? Have Free beaten CR? As I can see he hasn't delivered a single thing. Even with your obvious bias towards CR you should know that those two kingdoms are in total different leagues.