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Well, it does depend on how long ago it has expired. Eventually it can become dust really... Change is like that. Just as a banana left on a compost pile eventually becomes soil. So Faegan will one day be less tuna, although he may have to pass through a stinky phase to get there.
I wear BoH as a Badge Of Honor.
Are we just ignoring Flogger when he says his KD was th biggest start to end?
lol poor lestat noones bit so far on your rabble rousing
I was thinking how funny it was how Godly just disregarded Floggers comment totally. He knows he cant argue againist flogger cause the truth is on floggers side.
I always wondered what happened to my old kingdom mate Alexander. Now I know. Those were indeed some fun and exciting times. I really miss Brim and GE.
There are still alliances; Just more couch potato than stateroom.
Shadowlight would have decimated you round 5. You were protected by being allied to them more than them to you. You had me pk'd that age because prov nw was what everyone cared about back then and I was #1 with a 1M NW lead over you with a few days left in the round. You and flip lost your prov ranks the same day without without me even asking for retribution.
As for Absalom, the only age you won back then when Absalom was around was age 6. That was the age I finished over 40k acres with Darksky having also broke the mark before being hit after you claimed that it was impossible when DarkSky told you we'd do it. Your kingdom victory there was only held due to RTP deciding against taking your kd down on compassionate grounds after it was revealed that Chai was somewhat friends with your kingdom mate that he helped pk. All the other ages that you were successful, Absalom wasn't around to compete with you.
As for "start to finish" #1's, I'm not sure that you were #1 oop age 6 although I don't remember conclusively and you did take #1 soon after. I believe pb's were #1 from oop to eoa with their pure exploring and dicing dark elves the age when they NAP'd all competition pre-age as Absalom members.
"All the other ages we were successful?" We were #1 virtually every age we played. As far as I know, no absalom kingdom even reached #1 once until I retired.
Our kd victory in age 6 came from my superior intel of actually getting copies of your absalom chat to do the PK and exposing you and Chai and you both wanting to save face. Both of you pretty much stayed out of the limelight shortly thereafter when darklove disbanded you the next age, but it seems you got the courage to show up again once I retired a few years later and had a nice little run.
Given that I took on a 25 kingdom alliance (ES) in age 13 for nothing more than them feeding someone and randoming me once and destroyed them, its pretty clear your like 5-10 kingdom group had no chance vs me had you had the courage to keep at it. But mehul let you have a good little run at success once we got deleted the second time;p
To provide a little backstory, I had had alliance wars vs the most powerful group (barduvia/corma) the 3 ages prior to I PK'd ASF. After I PK'd ASF, he seems to think it was impressive he got them to bounce me shortly therafter. Barduvia disbanded the age we won in age 6, and your attempts at taking us off #1 you couldn't get support for once you could no longer be covert since I posted your chat.
True power is just being able to do whatever you want for whatever reason. Absalom had power but could never really use it. This is what running the game was like
"As I am sure most people know, the alliance war of ES/EOS/AA (and several small affiliates) against OS/HaLL/VLaOS and 2 KLA kingdoms, has began. As you will notice over the next several days, the rankings of top kingdoms will fluxuate a lot because of these wars.
To read more, click the comments link below, where you will see my interview with Xaroth of the ES council, and Stinger of the Kla coucil.
I will hopefully get additional interviews with flogger and AA's coucil."
"Flip
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(09-Sep-2001 11:32 pm)
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FLIP9/9/2001 ##:## PM how did all this start?
Stinger 9/9/2001 ##:## PM I really don't know, apparently ES pissed off
some OS And HaLL kingdoms, probably due to alot of randoms or wars from ES.
FLIP 9/9/2001 ##:## PM ok what types of things were done? have their been diplomatic tries and peace?do we really think there will be war
Stinger 9/9/2001 ##:## PM I am not sure at all bro. I assume ES tried to
get this stopped once they heard about OS and HaLL coming after them. Only 2 KLA kds are in this, and they have personal reasons for it.The rest of KLA has no involvement right now.But if anybody touches those two KLA kingdoms,
then I will call the rest of KLA into this."
"Flip
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(09-Sep-2001 11:41 pm)
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Xaroth es 9/9/2001 ##:## PM the war has started, believe me we're all trading blows now if you check the standings ES/OS/HaLL KD's are all dropping ranks like mad from the back and forth it started with a player from ##:## (I believe it was Yields great results) hitting into floggers Kingdom
Flogger and his "united front" (OS/HaLL/VLaOS) believe that ##:## is fed, and that the ##:## player was fed into a size capable of hitting into the KD."
"Flip
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(09-Sep-2001 11:45 pm)
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Also from my interview since i was unaware you can only post 750 character i will give you guys a summary of what we talked about.
Terms and conditions are Flogger wants badlands out of es and he wanst a personal message from ##:##'s regent asking him how many fed zerks he to release
Approx start of war was January 15th Yr.6
are no terms of victory, only concession"
http://www.utopiatemple.com/news.php?id=225&fpage=all
Real power isn't Chai having to hide where he played for 2 years until I quit and you never winning an age nor never getting #1 until I quit.
Its quite clear looking at the game today your lame ass strat of having your kingdom farm out to you with no trade balance and tax was bad for the game. That's why they implemented a trade balance and a tax. Me and flip were #1/#2 all age, you couldn't beat us, you basically cheated to pass us, then you told me the night before you got killed you'd rather be enemies and win than not be lame, so you died. Good thing Toffe already hated me, and bad thing Toffe quit an age later and you had to disband, only to surface again once I was gone.
When someone who clearly hates you admits you ran the game for a few years, you know it's true
"JRRTolkien
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(10-Sep-2001 09:04 am)
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Cmon guys, it doesnt mean that if one KD feeds.. everybody who belongs to that alliance feeds also. We all know that one or more KD in ES, EoS, AA, VLaOS, KLA, BLADES, HaLL, OS etc feeds.
*flogger is feeded*
And about this Alliance war.. this is adding spice to Round 13
ES/Eos/AA is winning on some war and losing in some. the same is also happening with VLaoS/HaLL/OS/BLADES/KLA.
We can never tell w/c alliance is honorable or not becoz in every alliance there can be a player or more who plays dirty.
Lets just wait and see who wins this war.
As for Flogger starting this whole Alliance War.. for me, he has the intention on reigning over Utopia again and ES stands on his way. and we all know his gay. =P"
Basically everyone with ICQ back then was invited to that chat in age 6 since it was spread to entire lists. It was the biggest ICQ chat I have ever been in (in competition with the chat for when you and Flip was taken down in age 5). Both Tom/Crazy Dwarf who played Southern Armies (the province Chai PKed) and you were intivited to it. Getting a copy of it hardly required any "superior intelligence" did it? :)
There would had been no problem to remove RA from no 1 either. You won nw with less then a million down to no 2 and 3 and it would had been enough with just the Absalom kingdoms back then to remove enough nw and land from RA to make Quellar del UK crown instead. Several House kingdoms and other independants would also had joined had we all asked our friends. The only reason you got to keep no 1 was because RTP stopped the campaign after it was revealed Chai had used inside information to PK Southern Armies and was friend with Tom/Crazy Dwarf who played it. Ironically, Ravenant flaying you alive with his multi horde actually saved your crown, because if he hadnt, you would had been PKed instead as was the original plan, and then there wouldnt had been any stop to taking down RA from no1 either.
That said RA was the best kingdom that age and probably one of the first to make coordinated waves with the whole kingdom online. The win was deserved in terms of skills.
Chai hardly hid for 2 years did he? You found his location already in protection the following round (age 7) and made what? 200 or so? avian multis that you and friends threw at Holy Reign for a week after OOP, before we finally managed to take them all out? I remember you killed poor Smurf twice in that time thinking his prov was Chais.
Dont believe anyone has actually pulled off #1 every tick. Pbs dark elf age, heretics were ahead until roughly yr 2 when they warred us and pbs got significantly ahead of us both. Heretics got ahead by farming bf who was mid disband and their ally.
Age 23 pbs would have pulled it off, but a bunch of the bottom t50 kds gangbanged them for being randomed - though pbs still crowned, they briefly dropped under lineara who would later get deletions. At the time, I recall them bragging about how it would be the first ever.
Please continue. This stuff is fascinating.
was going to say we were ahead randoming as orcs for awhile. Probably could have done decently against PB's but the other abs kingdoms super pumped humans to like +100% pop and even with like a 20% land advantage was farmsville. Realest was a nub for picking orc. But at least we were active...
We got most our acres from warring some kingdom and taking like 30% their land. (we were #1/#2 at the time) during the war PB's caught up, and with the mechanics back then would have farmed us in back 2 back war so forced a CF for several weeks.
The server was already significantly less competitive at that point, and ABS was extremely over represented in the top Rage/EQ/Edge/PB/DoA, plus eoa naps with Nexus\seasons pre age. There was a total of about 10 whoring kingdoms and 6 were allied\friendly. PB's made smart move taking fastest dicing race! It wasn't really rocket science, other kingdoms won ages without doing anything impressive by napping all and having fastest dicing races. Just not an option for non abs who were forced to war repeatedly and often in succession.
Hitting #1 briefly for a couple ticks oop doesn't mean much. When Absalom was around early ages, you finished #1 once. Don't even try and take any credit for getting invited to Paradox Gauntlet at the end of the age.
Shai already covered most of this. I was barely even involved in the takedown beyond knowing about it in advance. You should know this with your 'superior intel'. The action was called off after Chai pk'd Tom due to RTP feeling it was morally wrong due to Chai knowing Tom and thus stopping by his own decision. Had RTP wanted to finish the job, your kingdom would have been easily removed from the top.
Neither I or Chai stayed out of the limelight any more than normal after that. I finished as the #1 province and largest eoa province ever. The next age Chai ran Reign of Absalom which you and 666 used 200 avian multies to gb. I ran what could be called the first modern war kingdom. The first half of the age we gained a huge lead in the new "kd honor" chart through warring while also in position to potentially triple crown. This was despite dealing with the 666 multies gbing Reign. Then HaLL 2 or 3 vs 1'd an Abs kingdom. Absalom then smashed HaLL until they had nothing left to smash despite Darklove's repeated attempts to unconditionally surrender including agreeing to photograph himself wearing a pink tutu. No one planned to play utopia for 16 years back then and I, along with RTP and others, quit after the age. My main reason for quitting was mainly because I was moving to Canada at the time. I never really planned to play past age 6 back then.
As for your statement, "it seems you got the courage to show up again once I retired a few years later and had a nice little run." When I came back and was leading Beauty, you also came back not long after in Desire. Desire had taken a cheap shot on us the last day of the previous age when we had half our provinces in vacation mode as was normal eoa back then. When we found Desire, we flattened them in war with half of Desire's provinces being killed off and some of them more than once and all the others tiny. You quit again not long after.
Had RTP not decided to call off the attack due to feeling it was the right thing to do morally after Chai lead the pk on Tom, RA would not have finished #1. It is as simple as that.
Yes, you had losing alliance wars with Barduvia. That indeed was your claim to fame before you became known for pk'ing me when we were allied and I had a 1M nw lead on you with a few days left in the round. I didn't get anyone to bounce on you after. I was at work without internet when it was all decided and planned. I didn't even know that you had posted in the forum taking credit for it until you were alraedy being taken down. When I got home, I was invited into the ICQ chat with it already happening. You pk'd me, and your prov and flip's provs were both taken down within a day without me even saying a word. I'm not sure what you prove by quoting
You've proven you can often get away with doing whatever you want for whatever reason you want. Your gb on Emeriti a couple ages ago was another great proof of that. However, you are wrong about Abslaom. The reason Absalom didn't use their power to do whatever they wanted whenever they wanted like you did was not because they couldn't, but because they chose not to due to their own moral code.
FYI, Chai never hid from you (he just found better things to do than play) and I was #1 prov again the very next age after you pk'd me (with the highest land ever that you stated would be impossible to achieve that same age.) This was the same age you had your first #1 kd finish. My kingdom was #2 right behind yours most of the age. I never pushed for taking your kingdom down even though it could have meant #1 for mine. Certainly if Chai was playing in hiding for 2 years, you could have found him with your superior intel, but I guess you were just having delusions.
I only played 4 full ages before you quit. My first age, I finished top 10 kd and top 10 prov with a fully untraded kingdom. My second age, I was #1 prov with a 1M nw lead over you with a few days left and we've already discussed what happened then. My kingdom was in position to finish either #3 or possibly #2 which would have been ahead of yours before the pk. The next age my kd was #2 most of the age with yours #1. DarkSky and I broke the 40k acre barrier when no one had ever even got close to 30k before with my prov finishing #1. The next age we dominated in war so badly that we had a 25% lead in kd honor by mid age and had all of the top 50 kingdoms besides a couple of our friends with full hostile/war blocks up so we couldn't war anyone anymore. I'm not ashamed of my record for those 4 ages before I quit even if yours is arguably better for those 4 due to your one #1 finish.
My kingdom didn't "farm out" to me. I released all my specs well in advance of eoa to boost my econ and then aided out with high peasants. Then I gave my kingdom numerous high gc thief targets when I started elite pumping which they robbed and gave me half of their bounty. Perhaps it was one of the first modern elite/nw pumps and obviously you cried and whined hard about it when you saw that you couldn't beat me in nw which is what everyone cared about that age. You were also fortunate that your kingdom mate flip was running 20+ multies to help you pull off the pk along with your other ICQ contacts.
Is that supposed to be from toffe? It doesn't sound much like him, but I didn't play that age so I can't be sure.
Zauper, thanks for the clarification. It was the Playboy Elf age I was thinking of.
lol so much crap, people being full of them self, and ofc asf and his abs lab dog shai (even tho i love shai) but come on you where just mediorcer players and always was, asf was nothing without his lil abs alliance to come and bail him out none stop, none of the gaind so called crowns is worth **** when you had to GB and powerplay to get them. Infact i dont think asf of fagsalom got 1 single crown up to age 50 without dirty play.
And LOL for abs having a moral code, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
****ing joke you old retard. (hence the player retard dont BAN ME).
They weren't #1 out the gate here, either. I recall ED being ahead of them with dubais reverse bank. I remember them discussing whether to pull a bf and challange pbs before pbs dice past them and out of range or not.Quote:
It was the playboy elf age I was thinking of
“Live your life like you're 80 looking back on your teenager years. You know if your dad calls you at eight in the morning and asks if you want to go out for breakfast. As a teenager you're like no, I want to sleep. But as an eighty year old looking back you have that breakfast with your dad. It just little things like that, that helped me when I was a teenager in terms of making choices you won't regret.” ~TS
^This is why we are BFFs
impressive recall in this thread
Only a robot could recall things in such detail. Y'know I saw Star Trek the Motion Picture.
Commander Spock: V'Ger must evolve. Its knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve. What it requires of its god, doctor, is the answer to its question, "Is there nothing more"?
The Answer: yeah, I haven't competed yet. There's more.