Interesting that you want 25 provs dead in a KD that had no beef with you according to your KDs CF dealings with cRAZiEs. 24 hours later you joined the bandwagon. Not buying it m8. Try harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
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Interesting that you want 25 provs dead in a KD that had no beef with you according to your KDs CF dealings with cRAZiEs. 24 hours later you joined the bandwagon. Not buying it m8. Try harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Not telling the world, that we gained this or that. Merely stating while we explored and hit for 41k acres we have Crazies getting over 50k acres and sitting on a whopping 555 million gc stocked and all provs on 20-25% schools during this period of time, while bpa is not great, i assume they have saved up books that is ready to be invested. They want to portray Pandas as if we gained power by awar and they somehow in a worse spot now compared to before we joined, this is total fabricated lies. Looking at the stats and the growth curves it is nothing but a lie. If people buy the amount of BS Crazies was telling the last couple of pages that is fine by us, but we know better. The sad part here is Crazies dont even understand how valueable the pump and free growth time is, the last thing they should be doing is asking for this to end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heiney
I know, it is pretty damn funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnirpsneR
I am a core player and i have no say or ruling in my KD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
If i say i want to see all 25 in Emeriti dead it has about as much weight as Mike saying it in the other thread.
If you take it serious, then you need to have a reality check.
That's a big statement calling CJs decision making dumb. I won't say anything as we will enjoy a nice war within 6 days. Then we can put this to rest and enjoy the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
No, i took all 25 sots. Its exactly 555.7 mill gc. 1h ago. Give or take if you spent some by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
I post this because you guys are trying to tell the world how unfair it is to you, while you are by far the most pumped KD in every way on the server right now.
Reality check for what? Everyone is playing the game and interacting in the boards just as you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Reality check for what? Everyone is playing the game and interacting in the boards just as you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
No. Its exactly 555.7 mill gc. 1h ago. Give or take if you spent some by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
I post this because you guys are trying to tell the world how unfair it is to you, while you are by far the most pumped KD in every way on the server right now.
You really want to dispute this, thats fine by me. Its not like you can hide it.
It almost sounds as if you took sides with absalom?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
Yes, because there's only 1 unethical player in UtopiaQuote:
Originally Posted by SnirpsneR
Where did Snirpsner saying there is only one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
And by being neutral it has allowed you to be current size and free pumping for 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
Whats your point?
BB is the reason why we have the amount of gold we currently have. Because we would have noticed you when our CF deal finished if it wasn't for them. You have no stake in this awar and you allied yourself with your protective cloak BB. We have good ties with BB and There's a lot of mates on both sides that were HAJ members together. Because of that reason you aren't currently 70k acres max. Again, don't get it twisted. Now the date has been set so no need to QQ. Just part of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Correct. Because we have eoacf with the top KDs not you. So you are in the way buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Are you confused, previously you claimed it was made up now you agree you have that amount of gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
You might want to re evaluate your comment as it doesn't make any sense mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
He didn't. I did. It's jdorje.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Reach much? :p
I have 2m. I admit we have the amount of Gold we have bc BB has provided this nice vacation mode to stock gold in preparation for PandasQuote:
Originally Posted by Korp
And what exactly makes you think we had been 70k acres now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
This is not Divinity bank of donations you are talking about.
It will be a fun competitive war. Good luck and see you in the war forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
If you keep dispute this were going to have a problem soon. You have exactly 555.7 mill gc across the KD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
You might have 2 mill gc, this only means the rest got 553.7 mill gc across the KD.
Say again that being neutral hurt your KD compared to the ones taking part in the awar pls.
Ok thanks. Have a good night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghetto_King
We rest our case.
GL
QQ. I just did 5 panda SOTs and won't make further comment on their gold situation other than they have plenty for dragon fundings.
Its incredible how weak willed some individuals are, it was enough for abs to throw few rocks against Pandas and all hell broke loose accusing them. It boggles my mind that people can be manipulated so easily, are you all really so daft and so easily manipulated ??? If so I have Nigerian friend who has great business proposition for you !
Its completely normal for Pandas to run builds that are beneficial to them, why would they run full war builds at this point if they dont need to. Its normal they pump and grow with upcoming conflict looming, just as its normal for Crazies to do the same. Pandas get to put some acres where they couldnt otherwise, Crazies get to pump more efectivly and grow more unhindered ... both positions are advantageous in diferent way. Overall if Cj doesnt seem to mind their growth and development I dont see why others are taking holier than thou attitude toward this.
@jdorje @asf
I cant make you cut your victim bull**** and spreading lies for propaganda purposes, but I will say its big part of why people dislike you and why BB managed to muster more suport for this war than you guys.
You did not get jumped by 5 kd's out of the blue, you were FAR from winning before Pandas joined and BB did NOT gangbang kd for us (FS) last age like you claim, I'll just leave it at that.
@Palem
We are not farming honor, we gained honor cause first Outsiders refused to wd in order to stall us which lead to prolonged farm situation (we also picked land bonus over our typical choice of honor to prep for more conflicts), and now Emeriti are doing almost nothing ... they lost and cant be arsed anymore to give even a resemblance of trying.
For our part we are not taking free land and honor, we war just like we would if they did their best, we are taking down faeries and landdroped banks atm, there is no maxgaining, honor whoring, mas learns and whatnot to profit from situation.
One important thing to note. "We war like we would if they did their best" means you're honor whoring.Quote:
@Palem
We are not farming honor, we gained honor cause first Outsiders refused to wd in order to stall us which lead to prolonged farm situation (we also picked land bonus over our typical choice of honor to prep for more conflicts), and now Emeriti are doing almost nothing ... they lost and cant be arsed anymore to give even a resemblance of trying.
For our part we are not taking free land and honor, we war just like we would if they did their best, we are taking down faeries and landdroped banks atm, there is no maxgaining, honor whoring, mas learns and whatnot to profit from situation.
But yea, just saying that you haven't gotten a **** ton of free land and a **** ton of free honor doesn't mean you actually haven't gotten a **** ton of free land and honor.
Nothing we got was free, we pryed it off thier cold dead hands and paid for it with LOT of reset provinces.
And there is a big difference between honor whoring and going for dmg, I just flushed all my stealth ns'ing guy with 4.5 rtpa, 100% crime science and 15% wts ... if I was whoring I'd be raping their reset mercs and not waste my ops on that guy. If we were whoring we would not be macing thier faes, we would trad them down. We would not be tackling sages with insane ratios and 150k def hiting with our uds against rnw, we would be 5x taping merchants with 30k def.
We did not join when this was all over to vulture remains, we joined early and took bulk of dmg from their side together with Pyro. I resent implication we hiding behind anything and leeching honor and land.
Why are you saying so much in the forum than? Ur opinion will be threatend as the opinion of pandas and it pissed a lot of us off. Good job, cj has a hard time controlling our core because of you. As far as i know no new deal has made with pandas yet!! See you soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
if you think fs 'whores honor' as a war strat, you have no idea how we do war perhaps you will learn more next time we war..Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
citadela already mentioned, but we paid a huge price to get into this position to farm them - including many provs killed.. we were in this fight before anybody else, and have been fighting with all tools available since the beginning.. i dont see how this qualifies as getting something free..
lol thank you. I needed something to cheer me up on this terribly muggy day.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
You just admitted Emeriti isn't even fighting back at this point, and it's certainly not be FS so totally pwned them into submission.
Gangbanging your way into the top of the 3 classic charts isn't "earning" it.
I've only said the truth while your side has been caught and exposed in numerous lies. It's true that people dislike the truth when it doesn't suit their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
http://bigthink.com/think-tank/the-b...-win-arguments
As for support, BB planned this deal break and gb from the second they found out it was Bour who hit them in YR0 according to flogger. They were allied with Pyro since at least the start of last age so they already had one top alliance mate. They helped FS beat down a kingdom for FS last age so FS owed them. Right off the bat, they already had 2 of the top 3 nw kingdoms this age and one of the most successful war kingdoms of recent previous ages. They then had close to 4 weeks to continue to gather support and plan for their secret deal break and gb into war.
Is it really any surprise that Emeriti, a solo kingdom with no top allies, who was surprise deal broke and jumped into their war vs the #2 nw kingdom was at a big disadvantage? As for numbers who joined to help, Emeriti actually got as many kingdoms volunteering to help them as BB got despite all their planning. But when the #3 nw kingdom deal breaks and gbs the #1 kingdom into war vs the #2 kingdom, then the #3 kingdom is going to massively profit and quickly become too strong to deal with by numbers alone. Once Emeriti was taken out, there was no way left to do much to BB. Once it's clear you have a huge top advantage, then it's not hard to get the profiteers to join your side both for the free acres, and for the promises of help post alliance war. You've won the gb on Emeriti, but don't delude yourself to think that it's because more people believed you were right. You won because you started with 2 of the top 3 kingdoms in a surprise gb and Emeriti's biggest ally (that only became an ally after the gb) was much smaller.
Nearly all of the independent kingdoms speaking here are unanimous in stating that BB and friends have gone way too far here. Deal breaking and gang banging into war and refusing to end it despite Emeriti accepting all terms flogger proposed is completely uncalled for. Flogger and protected have been exposed in numerous lies where they are directly claiming untrue things in their propaganda. If they were in the right, why do they need to lie about most of what they say and continue to deny even when their lies have been proven with logs and screen shots? Say what you like about me personally, but I've been posting the truth here from the beginning and continue to do so be it good or bad.
Although you've won your deal break gang bang into war (congrats), you've proven yourself to care nothing about honorable play.
Where is the LIKE button on here?
Palem look into this please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Guilty Conscience, who are you exactly, Cheetzy?
He is with crazies. Comparing him with cheetzy is a little embarrasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Ex Garden, Ex Spankers, Ex Haj, Ex Debauchery, Current cRAZiEs Troll
I refer to is as propaganda and lies cause lot of it is. Namely the fact BB gb'ed a KD for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
BB bouncewaved ~one province~ for us and straight up after their wave the said KD jumped in war with another KD and was left alone. There was no gangbang.
But ofc you spin the story, obfuscate the facts and mix false statements with lack of context to present the story as it fits you, completely misspresenting the situation in the process.
You dont mention that said province's entire KD hit into our hostile with ED 30+ times, and after we nw droped, declared and destroyed them in war and (generously) allowed them to explore their big provs back they bacstabed us on our very next hostile and kept hitting for days into our hostile with Stoners refusing any and all diplo efectivly making it 2v1 situation for almost a week before we asked BB to help us so we can continue our fight with Stoners and race for honor crown.
So yes, there are lot of lies and propaganda in your posts. And I resent it.
Did bb help that time...maybe asf is referring to that instance? If they help thaty'd mean they helped you twice last age. Not saying thats y you joined but it shows u were on very good terms with bbQuote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
We won, its inevitable we profit in the process, its part of game mechanics. And yes we did "earn" it. This whole affair was not one sided and for a while things looked pretty bad for us actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
If you dont have character/game knowledge to admit/recognize the diference between what we are doing/have done and oportunistc whoring thats your problem.
As far as Emeriti not fighting its their decision to give up. I have very limited inside knowledge into diplomacy involved and cant rly pass judgement on the topic. Emeriti were scheduled to be dismantled and we proceed with it until diplo solution is reached, thats all I know and can confirm.
Bouncing that one prov is all BB did for us, and yes we are friendly with them. We never denied that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
good lord, go away for a day thinking a war is coming to an end, then you go ahead and read some dorje posts. He sure does know how to muck that up, doesn't he.