Originally Posted by
silverfox
Thread has just descended into stupidity, if anyone has any legitimate questions regarding the war then they can ask and I'll try to give an objective view point from what I know/remember.
I don't know why people keep going on about who won or lost the war, ED WD and we lost honour lead I'd say it's quite conclusive of the outcome, however if we'd have been up 20k land and #1 honour then WD to repump people would still have claimed ED lost due to not having the war win on page. A win is objective and depends on conditions, ED lost, there's no discussion here.
Towards my point I made in my last post, ED did lose the war rather than Debauchery win it, if you'd like to argue that point is wrong then feel free to cover what Debauchery did strategically to win the war. Their attackers got turned into defenseless provs first few days of war while their T/Ms did nothing besides magic def out of their asses, they tried 2 NM/prop chains the second of which failed on a huge scale and they didn't bother to do anymore.
Prop and MS was the only things which lost ED this war (our hybrids large growth didn't help much either). So yeah, we were naive on the ability to deep chain provs and remove them from fight (something a KD had already offered to war us over so they could see what is more effective), we screwed up tactically in not hitting their elves while we could and blocking their halfers ease of access (not knowing props strength) and having a week long war followed by another week long one was probably a very bad idea.
My opinion hasn't changed, ED is still the better KD. If you're trying to tell me it was Debaucherys "plan" to lose 25% of their land and drop outside the T25 in honour then fair enough, I'll say that's a terrible plan. We failed to follow up our initial few days and paid the price, a lesson which won't be forgotten.