Expecting a wave for CF is now being called a tax if it's done by kingdoms other than you?
You're hilarious.
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Elit, you dont know the word fair, but keep thinking you are fair.
Its also funny how you think you are nice and that is has some kind of value to me.
Only need to look at this age and last couple of ages and everyone can see exactly how fair and nice you are. Tell the story about the red riding hood also plz.
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Elit if you want to compare with CR about who is most fair then go ahead. I am sure you are so much more fair. That CR came to tax us for acres when we were the KD closest in range to them without a CF is not strange. They had waited long enough to get acres from us.
[21:42] <Anri> i tought so, we are down after havocs silly demand of 20% of our acres to them
[21:43] <Anri> because it was 10% tax on letting us fight pewpew and 10% tax letting us fight pyromaniacs
[21:43] <Anri> without them interfering
Its how Havoc call it.
did you had any problems for get cf from us this age after our hostile?
[21:40] <Anri> hi
[21:41] <Elit> hi
[21:41] <Anri> Do you want to make a CF til yr10 or yr11 with us?
[21:41] <Elit> if you want we can
Say again its was hard for you to get CF from us.
The thing about this is even if we had faught back they could take that amount! So, all in all its not fun to be the ones on that end. You can landdrop by learning them back or raze back and run ops on them to slow them and so on. But we did not want to make a pewpew landdrop for free science. We took the waves and got dropped, because we would not stand a chance vs thier pumped provs. So why would they not "tax" us? I had done the same thing in their shoes, you would also if you could pull it off and get away with it. Knowing that we dont retal by learns and such also gives me pleasure, because in the end of the day they are stronger when they are going up vs AMA. CR did it with style and they let us fight who we wanted before they came to wave us. If they dont want to make a CF thats it, you have to give something if you cant keep your acres in hostile/war. If there had not been a 150 meter system we would have retal warred forever.
If you are happy from deal you made its ok anri :)
peace!
No, problems and a cease fire serves two kds, not only one. Get ur thumb out of your ass, late age is FSU and were letting you fight both Pyro and CR. Cease fire serves both KDs, but you are to arrogant and to ignorant to understand it.
Even small ghettos can ruin explore/pump before fights. Our cease fire is probably worth more to you then it is to us because we have nothing to lose to your KD. Are you so arrogant so that you beleive we made friends or something? You waved us many many times and you broke your word and lied and ****ted on my KD. lol
Are you even for real... Dont take the cease fire if you dont want it!
You seem mad. Can I cheer you up with a monkey pic?
http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/Chimpmain.gif
Havent been around to do some keyboard warring cause I've been bz rl... but my keyboard misses me...
I hereby declare that I am being neutral in all my comments below. If any party is unhappy or upset or pissed, feel free to talk to me.. because what I'll post are unbiased opinions.
Nope, this is totally untrue. 1 of the main reasons for all the hoo-haas is that if AMA-CR go to war, Pyro can just pack shop and we can just take turns to VM till end of age.. Because there is zero chance that we will win the winner of AMA-CR. In addition, doesnt matter how good AMA/pyro is, a war vs CR rigt now is basically semi suicide with the land advantage + science advantage that CR has. This is even before AMA had ghetto razing problems. Even if AMA/Pyro were to have the best 25 players in uto and CR were to have the worst 25 players, war will still be lopsided.
To be honest, I am quite surprised that Elit readily extended his CF with Pyro before Pyro-Simians war and towards the end of AMA-Rage war. I tried to think hard and long why the f*** would Elit extend our CF?
I tried to see from AMA's point of view. They would need to shoot cows and whore their bottom chained after the war vs Rage, but from what I knew, they already had their threats CF-ed except Pyro at that moment in time. In addition, AMA probably knew that they have at least 1 week to double cows+prepare vs Pyro (excluding notice period) minimally before Pyro-Simians war end. That is enough time from what I calculated. Maybe it could be that Elit/AMA was afraid that Pyro-Simians war wont happen and Pyro will be waiting to 'vulture' AMA post AMA-Rage. But at that moment of time, Pyros knows that is a huge gamble because we would be basically much smaller in size but probably slightly more pumped.. and warring Simians was by far the best plan to proceed on with age.
So unless Elit/AMA made an oversight and didnt do enough calculations to know that a CF with Pyro isnt that neccessary or that they have some hideous plans which I dont know yet, I am more obliged to think that AMA wanted to play 'fair' with Pyro. Elit says he doesnt need to 'vulture' Pyro to win in a 'fair' 1v1 war, and I respect him for his frank opinion. Once again, this is just Pyro-AMA interaction. I dont know what AMA has done to other kingdoms.
If I am Simians, would I accept the deal that CR proposed? Letting me grow peacefully and so that I can potentially take out my arch enemies Pew Pew and Pyro. And at the end of the day, if I were to 'win' both wars, I will just have to agree on a forced war with CR where I will probably just max gains and WD mintime.
If I am CR, would I do such a deal? Pew Pew + Pyro are our threats when our CF expire towards the late age.. Why not make a deal with Simians to let them slow both of them down why I will just happily pump science and prepare to tax Simians(if they didnt win both wars) or War Simians (if they 'win' both wars, and this is easy war with my advantage). This is like win-win for me.
It is interesting to be in either Simians or CR position, and I guess I understand why both parties did such a deal.
Well, maybe both kingdoms think it's fine and fair for both parties. I can understand what both sides were thinking. But after I realised this that CR+Simiains had a deal together (i.e working together..) (I actually thought AMA-Simians were in an alliance in midage to kill meeee), from Pyro's point of view, I'm like wtf. I am not sure how Pew Pew feels. In fact, I have some inclination to feel that CR felt that Simians will beat Pyro and hence secure their age win from then on.
1 of the absurb conversations that I had with 1 of the CR guys recently (identity wont be revealed) was that he mentioned that Pyro should let AMA-CR war peacefully and Pyro shouldnt come and crash the 'party' (though once again, ama-pyro, ama-cr cf ends same timing). And his rationale was that CR allowed Pyro to war Simians and were nice to Pyro to let us war Simians.. Why so? Because CR didnt wave Simians and cause them to be out of range before Pyro-Simians. And that we should be thankful to CR for the cow acres + nett ww land bonus from Simians war.
I was like wtf? Your plan was to cooperate with Simians to stall Pyro and possibly for Simians to win Pyro. And CR themselves also got 20k acres from Simians post Pyro-Simians, and these were free acres unlike Pyro needing to get them in war (and we only nett 15k acres). I mean, yes I understand why CR+Simians were doing what they did.. but at least be upfront about it instead of using the excuse that CR let Simians to war Pyro, and hnce Pyro should be nice enough to let CR war AMA.
-cJ
Anyone in CR who wanted simians to war you guys would have had to be a complete idiot. Many were very scared of an event where simians loses badly(particularly to your cows). As it was that war led to the current situation where you could convince ama to war you instead of us warring ama.
To simians credit they warred from a size disadvantage and bank disadvantage and did not lose poorly at all. Nonetheles, the reason we extended cf until after they warred you was because Anri really wanted to war you/pew2 and he's been very straightforward with us ever since the leadership took over here 2 ages ago.
Thank you for opening up so freely TheOne. With topsy's perspective it offers clarity, with respect to bias. Makes the diplomacy worth following, thanks.
In addition I've had a moment to hit the nw tab on each of Pyro, AMA-PB, CR kingdom pages. AMA-PB running a beautiful delta pattern; kidding aside, I like the placement of the sturdy defense and ops position. I recognize this.
Pyro looks well positioned to hold their top and it's tough to op so many orc without wobbling from reflect.
CR is daunting in that 3/4 of the nw tier is bristling with the sturdy defense of elves with heavy attacker support. The top has belts of op and sabotage challenges that make killer objectives difficult to secure. I can certainly see why AMA-PB perceive a nw clamp on their center.
If everything is played out fairly, CR has the age in the bag at this point. But I still have faith in a late age farm out.
How much resources is this Remote issue costing AMA to deal with?
Seems like a ton of time and money and troops lost to ultimately gain a few thousand acres on core but lose thousands on cows.
Pyro can war the looser of ama-cr:) problem solved
Just war already
my b, not sure what i was reading to say that.
edit: yeah sry bout that prot, just rechecked whole thread and I have literally no idea where I got that from. Might have been #81 since it was right after you and only one deleted
This thread died completely after Topsys screw up, nothing to kill a thread like a ****ing apology. Keep them in PM next time, thank you for calling.
Parth just wants more nudies
these threesome is a stalemate. whoever wins on this 1st war will be the crown winner.
whats the status of CF between pyro v CR?
Well done , after 12 pages of whining, now a full wave even before cf expired.
Haha
How manny hours since the notice?
Our CF with AMA was til Jan 1 yr 9 with 72 hr notice. They just waved us June 4, YR8. Clear dealbreak.