Proposal to end he Awar

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Originally Posted by TheOne

there are some claims that flogger wanted to GB emeriti for a long time (prior to this age), but those are untrue.

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The claims I've made are that flogger wanted to awar "Abs" for a long time prior to this age. This is very true and he's never made a secret of it. He has openly said this from the time he left Abs and his primary reason was that he likes fighting the best and strongest and that Abs has never been beaten in an alliance war and he wanted to be the first to beat them in one. When Abs disbanded, he again messaged me saying that he was disappointed that he wouldn't get his chance to beat them in an awar. He also didn't like dorje too much due to Sanc winning an age with dark elves after saying they were bad as flogger mentioned before.

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Originally Posted by flogger

the second prot discovered it was bourreau and i said the line "that's a holy **** abs can get ganged moment"

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The first thing that popped into floggers mind as soon as he found out that the #1 prov who was trying to get a cf with them was a former Abs player was that he can gb "abs". Yes, "abs", not Emeriti. It seems he was quite excited about this and it explains why BB wouldn't consider any reasonable resolution to this. Of course he had to pretend like he was considering resolutions both to trick Emeriti and also to maintain support from his allies so he would state he wanted something and if it was said that it wouldn't be possible then he'd show it to his allies and if Emeriti agreed to it, then he'd change it and say that's only one of the conditions he wants and add a bunch more that were unreasonable to ensure nothing could be worked out.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

It was more beneficial for Emeriti to have Bour raze BB into eowcf than a fair fight, that's what jdorje says in the log. All considerations of fair play stopped there.

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That log was before BB was givien alot of acres and time to train on them. Afterwards BB were in better shape to fight than before since they had absorbed and trained on a significant amount of acres.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Also Rens = filthy abs scummies :D

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Die!

We did ask you something. U declined.

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Originally Posted by Mithras

That log was before BB was givien alot of acres and time to train on them. Afterwards BB were in better shape to fight than before since they had absorbed and trained on a significant amount of acres.

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You either get what I already said, or you don't. I'm not going to argue over who did what once the rulebook went down the drain.

And vir, don't make me go get logs (and yes, they are in swedish)

First off, when our first cf was made I made Anri aware of that we would not be able to fight you at that time. Anri was willing to let us have the time we asked for but you and Hesus voted him down. That was the first time I told you guys we wouldn't fight you
Second, I tried to extend our cf multiplle times but was ignored
Third, you came along and wanted me to agree on a war. I declined and once again offered to extend our cf. You then threatened to force acres for cf. I declined that offer too. I made very clear that we would not notice you, we would not fight you and we would not give you acres. This procedure was also repeated with Anri. That you think that you need to draft for us under those circumstanses is down to one thing and one thing only. You don't listen.

And lastly, we were prepping for you. We would not have noticed pyro if it it wasn't for you. And yes I said you didn't have to draft for nothing. That means it was your own choise to draft for nothing. I did my part telling you that we wouldn't notice you and that we wouldn't fight you if you noticed.

Man, if we all met in person and talked about this I bet it would be resolved so fast.

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Originally Posted by SnirpsneR

We did ask you something. U declined.

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And we have explained multiple times by now that the offers made by flogger and protector was offered to set up a dealbreak, not to agree to a sulotion.

Doubt that. I'm sure everyone would be drunk and nothing would be resolved.

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Originally Posted by tetley

Man, if we all met in person and talked about this I bet it would be resolved so fast.

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With a gangbang?

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Originally Posted by tetley

Man, if we all met in person and talked about this I bet it would be resolved so fast.

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You are probably right. Someone would say "I just wanted to GB your a**. Screw the reasons" in the first 4 minutes and the truth would be out there

Had you given up on age there would be no gb.

Well in my experience as soon as I hug it out with a person all my dislike towards them is gone.

Or yes, a massive orgy.

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Originally Posted by Mithras

Step 1: done
Step 2: done
Step 3: we have already told involved parties that we are ok with that but they demand more
Step 4: done

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You have been disingenuous in every "apology" you've given. Please review the link.

Examples of bad apologies:
We're sorry we did a bad thing but BB did a bad thing a few ages ago!
We're sorry you overreacted.
We're sorry but..... [anything]

Example of a good apology:
We're really sorry about what we've done. It was extremely wrong and it has understandably scarred our reputation in the community. We hope that with removing ourselves from the race and focusing on good moral play you will in time forgive us for what we've done. We promise it will not happen again. We will police ourselves to the standards set by the community and the play that we wish to see in it. We understand winning at all costs is costly for all and we will stand along side the community in setting a higher standard for competitive play. We throw ourselves on the community's mercy and hope to see a brighter tomorrow in Utopia.

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Originally Posted by Mithras

And vir, don't make me go get logs (and yes, they are in swedish)

First off, when our first cf was made I made Anri aware of that we would not be able to fight you at that time. Anri was willing to let us have the time we asked for but you and Hesus voted him down. That was the first time I told you guys we wouldn't fight you
Second, I tried to extend our cf multiplle times but was ignored
Third, you came along and wanted me to agree on a war. I declined and once again offered to extend our cf. You then threatened to force acres for cf. I declined that offer too. I made very clear that we would not notice you, we would not fight you and we would not give you acres. This procedure was also repeated with Anri. That you think that you need to draft for us under those circumstanses is down to one thing and one thing only. You don't listen.

And lastly, we were prepping for you. We would not have noticed pyro if it it wasn't for you. And yes I said you didn't have to draft for nothing. That means it was your own choise to draft for nothing. I did my part telling you that we wouldn't notice you and that we wouldn't fight you if you noticed.

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LOL @ the parallels between this situation and the one with Emeriti & Koalas(?) that ASF first accused Flogger of doing a bad thing first!