You can be right or you can be wrong, but you cant edit it late :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
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You can be right or you can be wrong, but you cant edit it late :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Its cute how goodz suddenly ignored me :-)
I find it emberrasing to see taunt banners twice this age directed at Absalom having 0 thiefs on multiple killers since I play at HoH. Even if there is no gold farming going on, the game is in bad shape when killers can run no thiefs without a worry in the world. Like was mentioned earlier last age same thing a couple of Absalom killers with no thiefs. Maybe it's just the way they have always done killers?? Maybe Proteus can clarify if it's a constant theme or just a rare occurance.
The game is broken the competition is lame.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete
Maybe you should challenge absalom instead of holding thier hands age after age after age after age...
What is broken is that you are in range to steal them or to war them and you instead CF them for full ages. Dont blame them for being able to run 0 thiefs when all other competition CF them. The only **** they have to wry about is first wars of the age after that if they win they got the age all ready. HoH is one deciding factor and extra strength they need on thier side. If you want to realize this or not is another question.
War absalom, see if you can win.
We didunt send taunt banners, but i found its shame how some ppl explain how correct play for cows is to keep 0 thives. Its complete broken and when there is few ally kds and 1 from them need gold and second have 2 cows with zero thives its not hard to guess they can use "extra help".Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Pete
Only abs kds and maybe hoh have stock gold. There is no kd what we can rob and there is no need. Few days back Sanc had 500 mill gold. When we are going hostile/war will be retard to rob from any other kd ever if they offer real money for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
hard to throw stones when your not doing anything w/your kd. you have multiple hitters that could raze ABS banks...wanna have fun, pump your top 3 orcs to 90 opa and raze 1000's of acres from any of the top kds trying to pump, its not that simply Anri and u know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
we were fixing TB. If you want logs I can provide. I am not ignoring you I just don't really need to validate everything :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I certainly respond to basically anything in forums. Trying to catch trollking in posts <3
he is good tho.
Just to be clear, you cannot rob gc through in-game cf. A "cow", is short for "cash cow" by definition, so it should not be that surprising that some kingdoms want to use them for transferring gc intra kingdom to their smaller provinces. If this is deemed to be broken, it'd be very simple to remove intra kingdom robbing from the game functionality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elitbg
For a long, long time now cows have played without thieves for a substantial chunk of the game. It was often used (for 'TB evening'), or just to easily feed through TB 20-30 ages ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elitbg
Is Zauper trying to teach Elit about cowing? :P
So we have a conflict of stories here, you telling one side here and another explaination previously you must understand how i find it very confusing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by goodz
Paypal $100. I bet Elit's kd wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
U in? How do i know u will pay if u lose?
Except we have in-game ceasefires with them, and absalom (unlike our opponents) has no history whatsoever of farming gold, ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elitbg
Oh except we have no in-game ceasefire with havoc now. Lol.
You still think we were farming gc through an in-game ceasefire? Is that why our gc stocks constantly dropped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Now that havoc inexplicably broke cf with us .. can we borrow 100mill plz =D ... odd
Intra kd feed is ok, just not one kd feed another. sure you cant if both kds have in game cf. its what i asked to be sure its clever fight and not 2-3 kd resources vs 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
If you dont follow the conversation and understand what its about please refrain from posting. Thou if you are actually interested you can easily follow the conversation me and goodz had in the previous page and you will be up to date and hopefully understand what my comment was about. Hell let me make it easy for you! goodz explaination why their "cows" had 0 theives was to fix TB while he told us/ my kingdom a different story when we were taking advantage of that fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
Our big provs all run thieves, there were obviously situations in past ages where we had to transfer money from larger provs to smaller ones. I don't see how this is anyone's business as there is nothing wrong with large provs, feeding up your kd, pumping books, or whatever.
Specifically encouraging other kingdoms to rob someone just because they chose to play a certain way is wrong. If you don't like it then don't make cfs but you yourself want to pump while inciting other people to rob Abs kds so they have a worse pump than you do.
The only time I have actually seen an unfair way of transferring gold was when its done in between kingdoms. The most recent instance of such was when flogger (pulse) farmed gc to Bio in age 55 so they could double us. The gc transfer did not help much as we still farmed Psyhward and BIO in spite of the gc transfer and doubleteam but it was nonetheless lame.
Kuhan yes I am in. If you want we can both transfer our money to ASF and he will pay the proceeds to winner.
And yet you accuse us of all sorts of bull****? Like checking your paper for targets to hit? You think we are completely incapable of finding the few targets that were left for us at the time, goodz?Quote:
Originally Posted by goodz
At the time Elit mentioned it in this thread it was already common knowledge amongst players that it was happening. The fact that Elit broke his own code of ethics is probably because he was getting more and more pissed off at dorje accusing us of abusing a game mechanic, when we weren't. Not a good reason, I guess, but people do strange things when they get pissed off at being falsely accused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Proteus know very well i didut ask any kd to rob abs kd so dont know for what broke ethic you talk :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Cello
all my crime is to rob from sanc in our pre hostile :D
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Originally Posted by Cello
The only kingdom who used the term "abuse" was you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
You went pretty quit a couple ages back. You forgot already? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Purely speaking for myself; I've kept talking all the time, regardless if I won or lost. Right now I'm just talking/posting less than usual as I hardly play.
Beleive me, it crossed our minds more then once. It would been fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
Cows/killers or however you wish to name them, frequently release their thieves to let others fix their TBs as they generally have a surplus of resources. As of recent, it seems to have become a habit (by Abs kingdoms) to play without thieves for weeks rather than just a day or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Pete
Don't give Proteus too much credit; it's an old strategy that's been used for many ages, probably just not the same way they do it now.
I'm also guessing they intra kingdom steal surplus to fund sciences, as with the income a human cow has it should generate enough cash and have spares even after buying extreme ;p
Sanc was already taunted this age with a 0thiefe infil, you think people aren't aware yet? :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Situation in paste ages was similar to what Sanc/Havoc did, but perhaps you learned from being mass-robbed 1-2 ages back when you sat on 0 thieves for a longer period of time.
These taunts are actually pretty hilarious. Wonder how often they'll be used ;p
Saying we knew about a bug, and built and trained accordingly is implying just that. The fact that you didn't use the word doesn't take away from the fact that you meant just that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
"active hostile" started 1h ago. Both kds use scary ops and look each other :)
Dragons was traded again.
One reason it's more effective now is that cows have silly income. Typically you will have +1m hourly income (with tog) on extreme science...what are you going to do with that money? Running 50k thieves lowers your hourly income by like 300k (7m a day). Even if some ghetto does rob all your cash, you're still going to have 200m spare after pumping come wartime. But better to let your own kingdom take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by prot
It costs me like 20m to retrain to 2TPA say. It also reduces daily income by say 5m. So I presume you can understand why i felt it was worth risk of leaving tpa at 0. I had planned to leave it there for a few more days even after I released to let a guy rob. In end I lost about 25m gc on my prov. But I have released a few others times during the age when we needed the TB to put up a bank easily. It is what it is like I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I just wish a KD would not leak me doing it to the entire world without any provocation from my kd.
They were given an advantage in that fortified didn't work as intended by devs and they were able to steal a couple hundred million gc in it. I don't think anyone was saying they abused mechanics...
anyway meh this whole thing is stupid I just want my monies back!
if what you claim is true (that fortified isn't working as it should), then technically you are accusing them of abusing a game mechanic, especially when jdorje claims they knew about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by goodz
Jdorje indicated in one of his post that they knew of the bug, didn't report it and chose to take advantage of it, so while he may not actually say the word he DID accuse them of abusing bug, it's childish to try to claim anything else was meant by that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by goodz
jdorje complimented them on playing the situation better than they did...
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Originally Posted by jdorje
People get so angry around here =\
July 4 of YR6 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with Havoc of Absalom (odd).
Thank for the 100 million gc. Payment for CF.
Well now is time for us to prove we have cf with havoc :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkz Azn
Lets all is back to report news about this hostile, bets and more and less flame.
Actually I was quiet the entire time as I was not leading that age as I was working a lot that summer which is common knowledge if you ask around, I came back to actively leading at beginning of freeze last age. Obviously if I do not have enough time to even lead why would I have time for forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by prot
Encouraging people to rob those who are holding gc to "punish" them is basically what you are doing. If smaller kds want to rob bigger kds they can do so on their own, they do not need someone coordinating/instructing them, etc. Same way that group of cows with kuhan/veritas etc did not need someone like flogger to coordinate their actions, it was none of his business. Generally people who do that kinda thing are just desperate to win at all costs.
The action will be on you Elit...Since Sanc doesnt have too open up.
This scenario is more in favor of ABS.
You gotta war em one by one!!!
Unles cfed with the rest ofc :)
Our cfs is time limited with few from rest kds. They can notice only if we don't have other notice/hostile/war/post war with another abs/hoh kd. I'm sure when we end with sanctuary goodz will come to punish us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winslow
Its not easy to be abs and deal with evil ppl like us ;)
Deal. Pming ASF now. Will be on IRC later tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
less talk more actiiiiiion
flogger you care to bet with me, you are supposed to be a west coast high roller. put your $$ where your mouth is, hundy spot on this.