Israel, it's about time!

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07-01-2009, 17:52
Nemo

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Originally Posted by VT2

If I warred Israel, I'd shove dragons down their throats, while stealing all their peasants.

And they would get 20% WTs, shoot down the dragons, then fireball you to hell. :)
07-01-2009, 22:12
Mourhelm

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Originally Posted by Nemo

Just because I'm arguing against what Israel is doing, doesn't mean I support Hamas. Just because I'm arguing against the killing of Palestinian civilians, doesn't mean I'm supporting killing Israeli civilians. That is a serious misconception.

I'm happy to hear this.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

However, should Hamas switch to hitting military targets, they'll have my full support. Why? In my views, Palestinians are in the right [it's their country], but Hamas is wrong [killing civilians, without giving it much thought]. If they switch to military targets, then they become freedom fighters.

If Hamas will also stop using civilian population as human shields and will follow the rules of engagement I will agree with you completely.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

Israeli's are in the wrong [they're on occupied territory]

Israel already took all Israeli civilians out of the Gaza strip. I hope it won't be long before we'll take all Israeli civilians out of the west bank too.

If you refer to the entire state of Israel as Palestinian territory then we'll never agree on that.

Israel got this territory from the UN which controlled the area at the time. Mistake or not, it has been made and can't be undone.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

and what their military is doing is also wrong [killing civilians, saying they are giving it thought and then bombing heedlessly].

I already told you that Israel doesn't bomb heedlessly. I think we'll never agree on that either.

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Originally Posted by Nemo

Since atm they're both wrong in one way or another, none of them have my support. Since Israel tried to be on the moral high horse, it got my criticism. If a Palestinian [or one of their supporters] creates a thread to applaud Hamas sending rockets into Israel, I would criticize him too. Those are my views and if you don't like it *shrug*

I don't have a problem with your views (once you explained the misconception). Criticism is good when it's done in a sane manner.

I truly believe that Israeli forces act with high moral. If I thought otherwise I would criticise them as well (just like I criticise the illegal settlements).
07-01-2009, 22:20
Mourhelm

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Originally Posted by stoffi

Stop putting words in other peoples mouth btw. I've seen you do it to many others here too.

Here's one example:

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Originally Posted by stoffi

...I truthfully wish that Hamas puts suicide bombers inside Israel, preferably Tel Aviv, and they find a Israeli solder and kill him, alongside with 30 civilians.

Here's another example:

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Originally Posted by stoffi

And yet if you look at the casualties on both sides, you will find HUUUUUGE civilian casualties on the palestinian side, while they are minimal on the Israeli side. If Hamas could, they would certainly try to match what Israel is doing, but we gotta deal with reality.

I didn't put these words in your mouth.

I'm sure anyone reading your posts could find more examples that show that you want more blood shed, not less.

This is the reason I don't bother replying to your posts.
08-01-2009, 00:28
SnuggleySoft

You truthfully wish that israeli citizens get suicide-bombed Stoffi?.... wtf.
08-01-2009, 04:34
allonons

""""And how come Israel bombed several UN schools? The UN has already denied that any Hamas were anywhere near, while Israel says they retaliated to Hamas fire from inside the school today. When did the UN lie? Never.
Israel on the other hand, has a long tradition of deception and lies.""""""""

Stoffi your so full of shiet......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht2B9KaDAEw

This is why they hit that target ,Hamas have been using schools scince 2006 to fire from,and Hamas could care less people are taking shelter in the schools.

So now that your completely wrong again whats your next useless point.

LOL you'd think the civilian population in Gaza would flee to the sea or boeders and just camp out away from the citys until this is over......only problem is Hamas would just as soon kill them then loose thier human shields..........
08-01-2009, 05:03
allonons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs

Ask and you shall recieve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHoHXnAK6Qg

Go ahead stoffi post your videos of hamas in action in the last two weeks.....lol
08-01-2009, 05:36
allonons

Boom Headshots~~~~~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Wf2gOeipc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLmfAjOpgYQ
08-01-2009, 08:14
WolfDGrey

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Originally Posted by stoffi

In Norway during WW2, 2 german officers were killed in a small norwegian town by the resistance. The germans responded by executing many males, and deporting the rest to consentration camps.
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Israel CHOSE to act like this months ago, long before Hamas fired any rockets. Germany didn't plan this, so if we compare these two events, the germans were much nicer. And they even spared the women and children, that's something Israel can't claim to do.

LOL, that sounds like a nazi propaganda. A case of deporting to deathcamps presented as "sparing" women and childern... it's just laughable.

I see no proof presented to back up your many posts, starting with dates and events continuing with casualities, further to analysis. You're just yapping from a safe country supporting something you have no idea about. Also, just like many more extremists you're locked into something and you're not pondering the truth or false possiblities. Your posts are full with inconcludent data, lies, propaganda and extremistic speak.

(note:
I don't support Isaraelis neither Muslims. I think both are blinded by propaganda. It's at least weird, if not outrageous, that in 60 years neither side found a common ground to make peace, while most probably the civilians from both sides would want peace if you'd ask them, in any given moment of the day.

Every time the sides would settle on an agreement, one or another has to do something to break it. That can't be random. Don't tell me that Israel couldn't end it in several ways like staying behind UN borders, or that the rich arabs didn't had the money in 60 years to help palestinians to live a decent life. Hell, the bomb shelters could have been built in 60 years even digging with teaspoons. It's clear that both use propaganda to show their side of the story, and both have material interests for the continual conflict.

So, having hotheaded posts about the issue show lack of understanding of the global situation, extremistic behavior and plain stupidity.)
08-01-2009, 18:19
VT2

You sound like such a communist, Wolf.
08-01-2009, 19:08
1eye

jesus loves you AFKain

let us have faith in mans ability to love thy meighbor, rather than continue to antagonize one another.
08-01-2009, 21:14
VT2

I resent that, for no reason other than to be different, and I claim - loudly - that my RACE is the best of them all at blowing stuff up.
08-01-2009, 21:46
WolfDGrey

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Originally Posted by VT2

and I claim - loudly - that my RACE is the best of them all at blowing stuff up.

True! Your race is only beaten by magma giants on blowing things up... humans ftw!
09-01-2009, 00:24
WolfDGrey

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Originally Posted by stoffi

When did the UN lie? Never.

Then some news from today:

"At least 24 Palestinians were killed in Gaza on Thursday, including three elderly people fleeing their home, according to Dr. Moaiya Hassanain of the Palestinian Health Ministry. He estimated the death toll around 750, and U.N officials say about half were civilians."

So in fact according to UN, the civilian deaths are smaller than the average in post WW2 conflicts? Didn't you just claimed the opposite?
09-01-2009, 01:47
VT2

That would work out flawlessly, if only there wasn't this tiny detail: there are no magma giants left.

I wiped them all out with my flames.
09-01-2009, 07:43
kwwww

i support Israel 100%. Kill Terrorists, and if civilians get in the way kill them too. 200 dead children= 200 dead potential suicide bombers. Life is cheap there, that's why they have 8 kids per family. Civilians are fair targets since most of them elected Hamas.

Let's not forget 9/11 and how they Palestinians celebrated the death of 4000 Americans.

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