This will be amazing, I am grinning with anticipation.
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[12:15] <@Benjamin> i really hope by having my number wrong in the bot and missing a hit, that i make godlys clown fiesta list eow
[12:15] <@Benjamin> it would be a travesty otherwise
[12:15] <@eragon> you missed a hit?
[12:15] <@Benjamin> yah the fvery first one
[12:15] <@Benjamin> very
[12:15] <@Benjamin> i had my number wrong in the bot so when i was called it didnt work
[12:15] <@eragon> yeah think that auto puts you on the list ;p
With some people in your kd I find this gif to be fitting
http://49.media.tumblr.com/c53e58aef...ri36o1_500.gif
<munkbot> | own_tm:34428 (77) | own_raze:4087 (8) | enemy_tm:28284 (66) | enemy_cf_withdrawn:0 (1) | enemy_cf_proposal:0 (1) | enemy_cf_broken:0 (1) | 6144 total
<munkbot> Meter with Pandas should be 148 | 115
Potentially maxing meter sometime tomorrow and finally get into this war!
Back when there was no meter cap the threat of people hostling you forever was very real. Pretty much no one waved the sleepys of the world or if Rage ever got small ASF would tie you up for a month, etc. I picked 300 as a number because equal sized kingdoms would still get there, but if you pick on someone too much smaller, they can tie you up.
I think there has to be a more creative way to do it than a fixed meter system.
I'm not sure what that way is, but I see the meter and it just doesn't convince me that I shouldn't bully smaller KDs, even at 300.
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Here's something that I think would be very powerful in this area. "Fix" (I say fix because I'm not sure it's a bug) KDNW gains modifier as it relates to hostiles.
If you are in a mutual hostile, the KDNW gains modifier is erased entirely, and you get the +10% hostile gains on top of that.
So if you are bullying a much smaller KD, you are getting 66% gains.
If that KD decides to fight back and defend themselves, and hits you 8 times or more, you now are getting 110% gains.
7.92% base gains to 13.2% base gains.
That 8th attack from the ghetto gives the whoring KD an immediate and astounding +66% gains
I find this absurd, and I think that removing that would help ghettos disincentivise bullying tremendously.
Only thing that would work is base gains on acre size rather then NW, it will eliminate bottomfeeding by a large margin and it'll prevent all the mess that is currently happening + it will be fair to both the top and the bottom.
Still give same gains but based on acres (is what i meant).
Not a bad idea either Meep though i can see exploits in that, 66% gains shouldnt be the bottom cap in gains, if you bully someone and they dont respond with anything other then OPs, the gains should drop gradually so it can not continue, until it reaches around the 25% mark perhaps?.
If you bully and they don't respond at all, then you already lose further gains due to Province NW and meter throttling.
Since they aren't responding, their nw is falling faster so Province NW gains modifier goes up, and since they aren't responding, the hostile meter gap goes up.
yea but you havent taken into account that they might send army out on a side KD rather then get farmed army home, should that count as them responding and further keep gains high for the bully? i think that would be unfair.
Again the NW gains just need to be swapped to acre size and these things wouldnt be a problem, i cant see how a KD would be able to exploit it unless they intra.
There could be something there, Meep, but you have to factor in changes that the devs can code in 15 seconds, they won't implement complicated changes.
Update:
Pandas | own_tm:41613 (95) | own_raze:4914 (10) | own_fail:0 (1) | enemy_tm:34767 (80) | enemy_fail:0 (1) | enemy_cf_withdrawn:0 (1) | enemy_cf_proposal:0 (1) | enemy_cf_broken:0 (1) | enemy_bush:684 (2) | 6162 total
Peon gap closing. Military gap staying constant. We did a few more razes on their fae.
Meter 150-145
This is an awful conflict.
Only vir is having fun since he likely has a prov - kd cf set up with hesus.
I'm sick, in pain, unable to drive to work cause of this ****ing foot.
And I'm playing with like 20 other warts.
<&Jwuzi> .urban wart
Definition wart: Someone or something that you want to get rid off but really can't.
[09:07] <&munkbot> Definition: This someone or something is so annoying that it drives you crazy but still you've gotten attached to it and you can't live without it.
Ops are brutal (ms/ns/chas/greeds)
Stock is eliminated and they got a peon lead on us. I think they went to 50 wages sooner than we did so our mod off/def is dropping to their level.
Both kds were camping avian armies last night. It was pretty tense and rude #BirdLivesMatter
CR has a drug problem as well, with multiple players needing to take sleeping pills due to their obsessiveness, and then missing hits because of it.
I'm so tired
The flying dutchmen in Pandas do have the advantage of needing neither sleep nor to eat.
They just need to light up, smoke, and fly hiiiiiiigh
March 23 of YR9 Pandamonium (x:x) has declared WAR with our kingdom!
March 23 of YR9 A Sapphire Dragon from Pandamonium (x:x) has begun ravaging our lands!
God damnit.
You have to admire their bravery. I certainly wouldn't had approached this hostile without making up a reason to GB.
They didn't even need a reason. Divinity + Pandas could have taken them down and there wasn't anyone else close enough to stop them.
The amount of honor and tact is sickening
They're chaining our biggest core prov (avian) and our smallest core prov (human, who had sent out right before their wave)
Their cows are involved in the chain on our core avian.
We have 2x massed two of their rogues, and started some side cowhits to farm land as well.
Quick update: We were obviously expecting them to declare on the 24th as thats when all their armies were home (they did end of 23 probably to get an extra tick of progression towards mintime). They really had no choice as meter was hitting max, and if they wanted to play the meter game they'd be eating 48 hits to 12 hits every real life day. They sent a fresh sapphire, and we've kept the same ruby on them from hour 1. The ruby has been putting in some major work since it's affecting the provs that we planned to hurt in hostile (cows & faeries). In hostile, our plan was pretty simple since they ran very high offense in prep: Camp as many of their largest offense as possible (camp means to wait for them to get home then hit them all home). Our rogues were able to NS roughly 110k troops from their core as well. Their rogues were essentially stealing gold throughout most of hostile and recently switched to doing GA:WT + NS on one of our cows.
It's pretty difficult to open on avians because if you go too hard, they declare and double wave you before you get your first war wave in, so we've been going ham with avian tacts since they cant be double waved (they beat their regular avians home), and doing safe hits with humans to progress the meter and keep the pressure on them so they can't just meter cheese indefinitely.
For first war wave, we 4x massacred 2 of their 3 faery rogues and they chained our largest avian and smallest human. We used spares saved up (detailed above) to chain their largest bottom core avian.
Our chained big: Land 1,216 acres Net Worth 470,180gc Net Worth/Acre 386gc
Our chained small: Land 1,317 acres Net Worth 448,519gc Net Worth/Acre 340gc
Their chained big: Land 1,373 acres Net Worth 645,328gc Net Worth/Acre 470gc
That seems to be about all I'm willing to share atm!
since godly's being cocky.......
CR has 6 hitters under 1 mil NW. All around 700k. Next wave is say in 9 hours. Pandas should take 2 of their guys that send out right before the wave and mark them as the target for wave 3 in 20 hours. Chain 2 other guys and then CR will be completely split. All either 1.2 mil NW or 400k NW. That way, they'll be unable to chain any panda prov at all. If CR takes down a bank, they won't be able to take under say 700-800k NW, meaning that bank can grow back on CRs 1.2 mil dudes.
Pandas cows can take down one bank if ops are working, if not can just mass tms or Maxgain on CRs big. War until you've chained down all core, WD, hop out after 12h, explore, bounce cows and profit.
tradding down tms 1 hit at a time is too costly and takes too long and just inflates their mods
flogger, I'm not really sure how I bragged? Either way, feel free to help out anyway you want to!
GL Pandas!
Sure. Thinking ahead, it's safe to assume CR is gonna mass out pandas TMs to protect their cows. So the response would be to plan to use the TMs in 36h to start NM/NS your current 1.2 mil dudes who will grow fat to 10k. Thus it makes sense to take out your bottom first to prevent your ability to chain. for now ofc picking off one cow with ops would be nice though
Win the bottom - win the war
#CallPETA
Bird abuse, the water is not fine.
http://i.imgur.com/cwrgho6.mp4
That's a cute avain, not sure if rouge since no color.
Quick number update:
Entire conflict:
own_tm:61205 (181) | own_raze:4914 (10) | own_mass:104102 (6) | own_fail:0 (6) | own_bush:89 (1) | enemy_tm:53034 (183) | enemy_fail:0 (1) | enemy_cf_withdrawn:0 (1) | enemy_cf_proposal:0 (1) | enemy_cf_broken:0 (1) | enemy_bush:684 (2) | 7576 total
War only:
own_tm:17578 (84) | own_mass:104102 (6) | own_fail:0 (5) | own_bush:89 (1) | enemy_tm:18267 (103) | -600 total
Pandas completed their 2nd wave in war. Our armies are kinda staggered to where we toggle every few hours with partial armies home. Pandas first wave brought down an avian/tact in our upper core and a small human. Their 2nd wave targeted 2 of our smaller humans. CR took down 2 avians in their mid/upper core and are currently in the process of bringing down a 3rd. Panda dwarves were used to start the first upper core avian chain in CR but have not sent out again. CR's cows have been 1x massacring a Faery Panda and growing with some spare gens.
Pandas still tanking Ruby dragon from first tick of cf drop with Saph pointed at them.
CR tanking saph dragon with another saph pointed at them.
Entire conflict, right before pandas third war wave:
pandas | war_declared:0 (1) | own_tm:68015 (218) | own_raze:4914 (10) | own_mass:120385 (7) | own_fail:0 (6) | own_bush:89 (1) | enemy_tm:57415 (206) | enemy_fail:0 (1) | enemy_cf_withdrawn:0 (1) | enemy_cf_proposal:0 (1) | enemy_cf_broken:0 (1) | enemy_bush:684 (2) | 10005 total
War only, right before pandas third wave:
pandas | own_tm:23882 (117) | own_mass:120385 (7) | own_fail:0 (5) | own_bush:89 (1) | enemy_tm:22648 (126) | 1323 total
CR down 2.5 m nw, pandas down 2.7.
Military gap holding steady around 300k. Peon gap down to 400k, and their higher peon counts are helping our chains be successful.
They're playing real well.
Using cows / t/ms to open up chains. Seems like they'll be able to chain all of us while we struggle.
#WinTheBottomWinTheWar
P.S. I know 3 people more QQ about MS than godly now :P
Darla and I are having fun down here at the very bottom
looks like some awkward nw gaps forming, but all CRs TM are eating it.
People Korp has accused of being BoH:
Octobrev
Sorsha
Meep
Vir
Godly
am I missing anyone?
Also I'm not paying that close attention to the war but both KDs seem to be holding their own, Panda's doing better from a glance at the KD page than I expected during hostile.
Thats a lie, I never suggested Godly. He isnt mentally stable enough for that!
This thread got boring :(
Don't drop the Spirit Stick. Aren't you involved here?
You're going to watch some classic Georgia Championship Wrestling and you're going to absorb the earthy zest of those exiting days. Then you're going to come back here, possessed, and ready to unleash the tornado. Now go. Quickly.