I've long since thought to be one the most reasonable top leaders, not surprising y'all can't play nice while I'm away ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
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I've long since thought to be one the most reasonable top leaders, not surprising y'all can't play nice while I'm away ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Bour razed into EOWCF exactly like the logs said he should do it. Coincidence, Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Love your spins, why the hell is anyone giving these dogs a CF?
It's not that hard to understand that Emeriti advised bour to try and get himself a cf and he could threaten to raze or actually raze if Bb wouldn't otherwise cf him to get his cf. Even flogger agrees that bour razed to try and get himself a cf and not to try and help Emeriti. Do you guys not feel your official reasons for this are good enough so you need to try and make up false ones?
Err No ASF, the logs shows he was TOLD to raze into EoWCF if no reply within 3 hours, and he did so..Quote:
Emeriti never asked Bour to raze to hinder any opponents. jdorje advised bour that he could threaten to raze to get a cf.
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It's bour that should be razing them
I dont think there is any point denying this ASF, it was ****play and lame even more so when its tried to be covered up.Quote:
give them at most 3 hours to respond
start killing if they don't answer or try to delay
That said i still dont think it was okay to dealbreak Emeriti, i would have just waved you into EoWCF if i was BB once your war with pyro was over.
Also Prot, flogger, Panda LS? did BB offer Panda a crown chance if they helped in the awar?
I am not denying anything that happened. Emeriti wanted Bour to get himself a cf as Bour himself also wanted. Emeriti told him that he could threaten to hit into post war if they refused. Cerberus_v666 later asked if he was going to get that cf and said in his opinion to give them 3h to respond then start killing if they don't answer or try to delay. Keep in mind that Bour is a former leader in Emeriti and Cerberus is a core member and not a leader and Bour has never taken commands from Cerb but certainly he can listen to advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
This is exactly what happened and what I said happened and apologized for long before any logs were posted. The part that some including you seem to be *wrong* about is claiming that Emeriti had him do it to hinder BB. That is simply false. Emeriti wanted bour to get himself a cf and not get farmed by BB. Bour asked for a cf, but his messages were read and not replied to. He then razed for 380 acres and immediately contacted Bb to offer them all razed land back plus extra for a cf. This is simply not what you do to "hinder" a kingdom and you are simply wrong if you think that's why it was done.
jdorje 6:19 PM
if we cf them, bour is dead
and that is bad for us
so if i were bour i'd go get the cf now
with threats of postwar hitting if they refuse
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cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
gonna get that cf?
bour 7:42 PM
will try to get it
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
give them at most 3 hours to respond
start killing if they don't answer or try to delay
imo
cool so i guess it would be ok for me to post emorti intel here like a shared hit list like the one cerb used.. this is more convenient and gets more attention and no one needs to remember another address
ASF, theres a HUGE difference between could and should .. I think its cool you apologised but why does it have to be with a "but" behind, the fact is it was a ****ty thing to advice and even more ****e for an intelligent individual to act on something he fully understand was wrong, he even says himself it was a bad decision..
If your moral compass says its wrong and you do it because your influenced by friends, you do know the friend is part of it in a court of law, seeing they instigated it, I do think all this has gone overboard etc. it still doesnt change the fact that you still try and talk yourself out of a ****ty decision that you as a kingdom/alliance made and thereby hindering your opponent (which is what it was, no matter how many times you all post no).
TheOne thats some nice science, if they didnt manage to pump how come they got more average science then you? - their core can top feed and is clearly in a better position, if they can control your bank they are looking strong, if they got 6+ days then they can fairly easy grow their own cow or atleast 2 semi cows that will be a threat to yours if yours send out.
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Originally Posted by TheOne
Meanwhile you have cows with 800 bpa and 4 wpa raw. 555 mil. Go ahead and post the rest of our Intel compared to yours. Tell everyone our wpa. Yes we got schools on our provs that got safe (so, 5provs maybe? ) only about 24 hours ago? . None on anyone else. Why we don't have gc? Probably because we've been getting opped and our smalls were taking hits constantly and having to train. Stop leaving details out.
By the way is it okay to post Intel like this? I'll gladly post your kingdoms Intel
Correction: I don't think Emeriti was scared of us (certain members were, but they weren't your war leaders) and I don't think Emeriti wanted bour to hit because it would help emeriti crown. I don't think they were "blocking" for Emeriti (at first). Clearly the period where we just sat there for 3-4 days with no resolution was them effectively blocking us and emeriti made no attempts to stop that until I made a forum post.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
I think the entire idea of bour razing into our EoW was crafted from emeriti's leadership and had they been able to do it without being caught dorje and leshrak would have done it themselves. That much is clear with the logs. If emeriti's leadership had the appropriate ethics the province wouldn't have hit us to begin with, which is why this started, because one of them would have simply said "don't raze them"
I'm tired of this awar BS. I'm glad cj has a level head.
Pandas needs to drop the charade. Let's call a spade a spade. Pandas is BLATANTLY being fed acres, time, and protection from a fair fight in which they KNOW they would lose. It's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS you are being protected. This has gone beyond a simple wimp kd running from a fight into a sorry sack of teddy bears getting govt funded steroids and genetic enhancements to take over the WoL!
I think it's time someone answers Aranfein...
Your guy posted for the whole world to see how much gc my kingdom is carrying. and boom. next moment i see a huge plunder into my kingdom.
If you feel it's inappropriate to post your exact bpas, sure let me know. -> I decided to just edit them out. so no worries. I apologize if i posted those exact bpas initially
I have talked to Cheetzy 12hours ago on IRC, and am waiting a response from your side
[22:58:59] <Cheetzy> I never said it wasn't a fair offer
[22:59:08] <cJ> so what do you think of the suggestion of june 1st , yr 6 +6 days?
[22:59:33] <Cheetzy> I'll discuss with abs then come back to you
[22:59:40] <Cheetzy> Or whatever they want to be called
[22:59:43] <cJ> ok
I agree with all this and that's what was apologized for and offered beyond full compensation for both by bour and by emeriti.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
There is no disagreement with the events that happened, but I will disagree if you are going to try and imply/state false motivation for the events that occurred.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZ7ndjhhps
This is my kingdom's theme song for the next 2 weeks.
Anyone notices that there are 2 separate convo going in this thread? One between crazies vs Panda and emeriti vs emeriti haters?