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Just out of curiosity is the scientist production boost from labs possibly coded wrong?? It seems to have negative effect, but maybe its just me.
i got 3 scientists as a sage in 12 hrs with 0 labs, then the next 22 hrs once 20% labs came into effect i have spawned 1 scientist.
Anyone else notice a similar scenario??
I've been running 10% since OOP, as a Dwarf Sage and I'm seeing 1-2 on an average day. I do also feel this way, I've been abducting non-stop and I'm not seeing any edge on generation above my non-sage peers.
This all could be in my head, as I ran a Human Sage last age.
its all in your head.
That is good to know! Thanks for the reply.
Did notice similarish thingy. But we cant know for sure!
Yes we can!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Trust me. Many people tell me there are BIG problems with science, its huge, so bad. The stories... terrible...
#fakenews
#hatersgonnahate
#weneedmorescientists
We need less scientists. They are perpetuating the #Fake news of global warming made up by CHIIINA to make Utopia kingdoms less competitive. Cut EPA funding by 31%Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Can confirm. Have highly reputable sauce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
I'd say it is more profitable to start abducting year 3-4 you might get dubble returns already on some hits, but you could get maybe 5 or 6 if you waited a few weeks.
I can't find any abducts can someone post an SoT thanks I'm a halfling btw.
If you're a rogue, burn universities like an ultra radical, then abduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad1310
Actually I noticed this behavior on my province also. I'm running 20% labs and Revelation on 24/7, and I receive 1-3 geeks in 24h.
When I don't have Revelation on, 3 geek appeared like mushrooms.
When I didn't have Labs on, but with Revelation on, I had 5 geeks / 24h.
I ain't the only one in the kd that noticed this issue, however, looks like this affects only the races / pers that have Revelation.
Go check your "if's" and your boolean conditions and make sure nothing is fishy there, because 1 scientist / day is ridiculous when you run labs & revelation.
Members of our kd (myself included) also noticed poor sci increase with labs.
After War win, we used 25% labs as part of rebuild phase but there were only rare cases in which anybody gained more than 1-2 scientists in 24 hours.
can confirm. sage on 40% labs, 3 sci/dayQuote:
Originally Posted by FR33Willyyy
I recall that labs used to have a smaller effect. Could it be that it still has this :) ?
Okay but what are non-sages without labs getting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovenmitt
Do know 1 guy I know has no Rev and no labs all age, similar-ish fort cycles, and has now 5 scientists more than I do :D
So I guess the 6 scientists I got the first 19 hours of protection on this little ghetto prov I made is pretty good?
No labs, no sage, no revelation
Umm Don't labs have a 30% max increase? so you only need about 6-7%. So all of those people running 20-30% labs are shooting themselves in the foot.
No. 95% max increase. Apparently there are 2 pages about labs in the guide - one is right, one is wrong.
Source?
I have had labs this age with 95% increase shown in game and then have razed a few and found still 95% increase (because I had too many given the 95% limit).
I have an issue with labs too. I have some numbers too. In 13 days where i didnt have lab i got 31 scientist, 2.4 per day on average. I am non sage and i dont have revelation so thats regular spawn. We werent in fort as well in any of that period. 2 days i got only 1 scientist, 6 days got 2, 3 days got 3 and 2 days got 4. Then i built 20% labs and it is giving me 63% bonus to production. Yesterday i got only 2 scientists and today in first 14 hours got only 1. Now its still too early to tell but i will report in 2 days to see if anything changes. You might say why post now. Well for some funny reason whenever i whine about something the lord of random number generator takes pity on me and things improve. :)
Yey got another one, told you whining works haha
Labs are great.
June 1 of YR2 A new scientist, Novice An'mark (Housing), has emerged and has joined our academic ranks.
June 3 of YR2 A new scientist, Novice Hareginri (Housing), has emerged and has joined our academic ranks.
June 4 of YR2 A new scientist, Novice Edhelel (Crime), has emerged and has joined our academic ranks.
June 7 of YR2 Our people decided to explore new territories and have settled 5 acres of new land.
June 8 of YR2 A new scientist, Novice Suuheshbu (Military), has emerged and has joined our academic ranks.
June 10 of YR2 A new scientist, Novice Thudi (Alchemy), has emerged and has joined our academic ranks.
June 11 of YR2 A new scientist, Novice Grim'phie (Production), has emerged and has joined our academic ranks.
Odd. Ran high labs and Rev for days on end. averaged about 2-3/24 hours.
Not gonna run labs anymore nao.
How are these scientist names being generated? Just random vowels and consonants thrown together?
I was just lucky. Technically labs just cut down the worst case max time before you get a new scientist. Assuming worst case lets say you have a 4% chance to spawn a scientist initially, every tick we get +1% chance. In theory i could have to wait until the end of day 4 before i spawn a scientist, with max labs that's cut until the end of day 2. Obviously this scenario is highly unlikely but it could hapen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
In reality max labs almost double your spawn. You will still see peaks and troughs but over a longer period a prov with max labs will have double that of one without.
Some lame name generator for fantasy human characters. We should totally just start a list of every players handle and add them in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Noticed also 1 more thing: i was biggest in the kd in my race, i received 1 - 2 max per day, with all labs and rev on 24/7.
When I was the smallest in my race, last 4 days, i received 5 sci / day. Today without labs and only with rev on, i received 4.
Something is off with labs, either your random magic is off or something happens in the implementation of this scientists.
Acres have nothing to do with the formula. There is nothing "off" with labs".Quote:
Originally Posted by freaka
Or...you know....scientists lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bishop
Would it be possible to just share the sci generation formula? You mentioned 4% and 1% or is that just to illustrate?
About the scientist system, my vote is to KEEP it but make some changes to remove the randomness from it.
RPGness = good
Randomness = bad
The whole reason we nerds play this game is because were nerds and in this game we can calc ****. Ive had like 5 people in the last 2 ages leave purely based on being annoyed by randomness and mechanics increasingly catering for low-IQ people (this age's gains mechanics is just another example).
I have enough of that. I play this game for entirely different reasons :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
The swift gifs?
I hope it's not to meet womenQuote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
men
You don't think Panthira is waifu material?Quote:
Originally Posted by Band of Horses
[08:32] <@Ovenmitt> like i saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
[08:32] <@Ovenmitt> make it a flat rate
[08:32] <@Ovenmitt> with a visible progression
[08:32] <@Ovenmitt> eg: if base is 1 sci/ 10 hours
[08:32] <@Ovenmitt> you have a bar and you see it fill 10% per hour
[08:32] <@Ovenmitt> if you had 75% lab bonus, it would fill 17.5%, you'd see it, and you would know labs are working. Sage would fill 12.5%/hour default, etc.
Pretty much same thing I said. Rate remains unchanged.