You keep saying "nothing's changed." Maybe you didn't notice but they lost the +15% pop bonus. That's all we're talking about.Originally Posted by VT2
You keep saying "nothing's changed." Maybe you didn't notice but they lost the +15% pop bonus. That's all we're talking about.
Brian, whats the BE formula?
BASEBE*sci*race*pers or?
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Yes, and their elites are also 5/5 now.
What hasn't changed is that gnome is still as weak now as it's ever been - which is what I was getting at, and have been getting at.
People like to pretend the pop-bonus made gnome AWESOME!!!! but it really didn't. If you want it, play shepherd.
Same stuff, and just as horrible as always.
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Need to nerf Artisan.
Dwarf Artisan are to sick powerful atm. either nerf dwarf BE to 20% or Artisan BE to 10%.
Cause think of Dwarf Artisan flatrate buildings...insane....
Give Halfling +10% pop. Keep +10% pop in shepherd.
Boost Mystic and Merchant.
If you nerf Dwarf please nerf Avians a bit too, give them -20% attack time instead
I don't think anything needs to be changed for real, except killing the clone elites between human and avian.
"Give Halfling +10% pop. Keep +10% pop in shepherd." So you want to get rid of the dwarf/artisan combo, but you're all for making gnome/shepherd better?
Makes perfect sense.
Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.
Step one: replace everything that works.
Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
Step four: thank you for your patience.
I agree with VT2, leave it as it is :]
Gnomes are weak atm, the weakest race. +10% pop and they are in the game again. Then if people want to play Gnome Shepherds the numbers would be similar if someone went Avian Shepherd.
Dwarf Artisan is way overpowered but I am no guru I could be wrong but I guess you guys gonna play Dwarf Artisan =)
I would actually run gnome/arti instead of gnome/shep though if they got atleast +10% pop bonus :/
It's not that difficult to balance stuff, use ur brains B&S
Last edited by KuhaN; 24-01-2010 at 23:50.
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I am wondering if the +/- specs have the n/ws ajusted?
nothing has been mentioned about it.
a 4def spec orc will it be 5nw or 4nw?
Mystic could use +1 mana recovery
To make it really a mage
my question as well otokonoko.
and another one: Spell success: +30%
does this mean that when I have 0.001 wpa and I try to cast mv on someone with 178985 wpa I have 30%+ chance of succeeding the cast?
-1 off specs for Human is a bit of a token gesture! Like anyone is going to use off specs even at 5/0 with an 8 offence Elite.
I like the changes for the most part though and a lack of balance is not necessarily a bad thing, in moderation - Dwarf Artisan vs Garden Ornament with any personality is a massive inbalance though!
Presumably, but 30% of next to nothing is still next to nothing.
It means human will be slow to start up, and prone to getting their offensive power seriously degraded in war.
Catwalk's crusade for legalized cheating was a stunning success, with ghettos and low-tiered teams everywhere losing their wells of knowledge to better kingdoms in the process.
Step one: replace everything that works.
Step two: blame the predictable epic fail on outside forces.
Step three: keep the community informed that no progress has been made since the last update.
Step four: thank you for your patience.
my question is: 0%+30% = 30% or 0%*1.3= 0%. As far as I can read it, it is the first option.
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