undead leet conversion rate

[br3nt00]

has this been modified between ages 52 and 53?

if so, could you elaborate as much as you can?

thanks

[KuhaN]

it's like ~10% or something.

[scorpio86]

I am trying to figure it out too, on a recent attack i sent (i think from memory) exactly 1700 Skeletons and had 320 converted to Ghouls. That was for a 'tough battle' outcome and i had about 20% converted. The target was the best i could find, just slightly higher than my own networth and higher in acres.

I think it is about 10-20% depending on certain factors.

[Bishop]

Its unchanged from last age and is a 10% base, with a 20% cap if you have 0 elites.

[scorpio86]

Ahah confirmation, cheers.

[digimon]

So far from three attacks I have been getting around 19% conversion. Its high now because of the low amount of elites I currently have. Last attack my offence consisted of 20% elites and 80% off specs and I still managed a 19.2% conversion rate. Finding the right target is crucial to get the best conversion possible.

[Lazy]

so just to clarify:

if I have 3k o-specs and no elites and i hit someone, tough battle, close in NW i will get closer to 20%, but if I hit someone with 2k o-specs and 1k elites, tough battle and close in NW i will get closer to 10% conversion? if I leave my elites at home / send them in a different hit does that affect it?

[scorpio86]

20% cap if you have zero elites, leave the Ghouls at home for max effects. That is how i am reading it. It can't be zero elites in total, just zero elites sent along with your Skeletons.

[Palar]

No, the rate is based on the total number of Ghouls you have comprising your total offence, that is how it's been conveyed. However it probably doesn't affect the rate until after a predetermined elite ratio, as Bishop said the cap was 20%, but the fact that you're were getting ~20% conversion rate proves that its just a cap since we don't know the formula, without the cap it would've probably been over 20% with 0 ghouls.

[Ordray]

No, the rate is based on the total number of Ghouls you have comprising your total offence, that is how it's been conveyed. However it probably doesn't affect the rate until after a predetermined elite ratio, as Bishop said the cap was 20%, but the fact that you're were getting ~20% conversion rate proves that its just a cap since we don't know the formula, without the cap it would've probably been over 20% with 0 ghouls.

Very good summary. The % conversion is based on the overall army. The # converted is based on the % conversion rate and the # of specs sent.

[digimon]

To clarify one more thing, lets say you have 5k o specs and 3k ghouls. As long as you get a tough battle message it doesn't matter if you send all 5k o specs and 3 k ghouls or just 5k o specs by themselves, you are still going to get around the same conversion %.

[Twyla]

Simply hazarding a guess based upon what I've seen and heard regarding the conversions Undead Attackers have been getting:

10% * ( 1.5 - ( Attacking Ghouls / Attacking Skeletons) ) * ( 1.3 - ( Ghoul NW / Total Army NW ) ) * Net Gains Formula

Admittedly a shot in the dark, but it seems to be a fair estimation based on the results I know about.

[Ordray]

That formula is completely wrong. Attacking ghouls has nothing at all to do with the conversion rate.

[scorpio86]

Meh.

[Twyla]

That formula is completely wrong. Attacking ghouls has nothing at all to do with the conversion rate.

Oh, well. I did say it was a stab in the dark.

Just because a formula fits the available facts doesn't necessarily mean it's right.