Dodgy Simian Behavior

[jamin]

Kingdom X has cf with simians, they break cf and let simians make hits as per below without any retals, then both kd's re-cf after.

I don't care what excuse simians give I say BS. Reported to uto support for farming.

The Kingdom of (x:x)

Total acres exchanged: +7169 acres (42/0)
+7030 acres: Anonymous province from (x:x) (40/0)
+107 acres: Tabasco Looks Good On You (1/0)
+32 acres: Sweet Calcutta Rains (1/0)

[Evillone]

You missed a location Jamin. Also if i had to guess i would say that Apes and whatever kingdom you are talking about had specific terms set to their CF and those terms where going to expire soon, the random kingdom wanted to extend to CF and Simians agreed if they where given a free wave. I don't know if this is actually what transpired or not just taking a guess. Either way i agree its fairly lame (although i don't know about being "illegal" as far as game rules) and i really hope that it wasn't just one of Anri's friends trying to help them grow, although i wouldn't be surprised by that either, because I'm sure ABS could play the same way to a much greater effect and thus it would be a loosing tactic for the apes.

[Osaze]

Very Suspicious

[jamin]

Theoretical Scenario...
Rage begs us to extend CF with them or else we will burn them to the ground. We say, sure let's cancel CF, give us 10k of your acres, then we will renew CF.

Illegal or Legal?

Yes the scenario is slightly different, but what if we just said, Abs wanted to keep us allies and we said no, so we came up with this arrangement in order for us to maintain the relationship we had. It's our word and Abs' word against the rest of Utopia, so when does someone step in and and say, no that is wrong. I used to play a game back in the day called streetwarz, I don't know if anyone has heard of it, but anyway...

Farming used to be illegal until it became too difficult to police, so the game owner (Aerocloud) decided to just make farming illegal, 2 months later, the game shut down due to no longer having enough player base to support it.

Shall we change the name from Utopia to Farmtopia, and see who can farm the best to win?

[KuhaN]

Shall we change the name from Utopia to Farmtopia, and see who can farm the best to win?

Farming is fine.

Multing is not.

If you can get players to grow and let you farm them all round then so be it. It's harder than you think. i dont know anyone willing to waste their time growing a prov and then letting people feed off it lol.

But what's sad is that you just gave absalom an excuse to gangbang simians now in the future. See how absalom works?

Change topic to "Incoming Dodgy Absalom Behavior" imo.

[KuhaN]

I just want to know if everyone thinks this should be clarified and made illegal, and kingdoms caught doing it should be punished, or else what is stopping all the top kd's next age doing this? Where is the strategy and skill involved in the game if this is allowed to happen?

If farming is made illegal it will be a huge mistake and will cause a huge clusterf***.

If players want to give acres to their friends, then let them. Others can razekill these players, but why the hell nebody would want to waste their time growing a prov to let other people farm it is beyond me. As i said before.

[Hurlin]

Farming land, Honour, rankings has never been fine ....... Kingdoms have been kicked out of alliances, Gang Banged and destroyed in the past because of such a filthy tactic.

[KuhaN]

Farming land, Honour, rankings has never been fine ....... Kingdoms have been kicked out of alliances, Gang Banged and destroyed in the past because of such a filthy tactic.

Is it illegal? Does it say it anywhere in the game rules?

No.

Then it is fine.

Players can razekill eachother, gb eachother, or wtv. But it doesn't make it unfine lol.

[Palem]

Afaik, farming out isn't against the rules.

[jamin]

Cool thanks for clearing that up.
So notice to all next age, make some alliances and let them give you their land at the end of the age so you can win.

Farmtopia here we come.

[Chuck]

Thankfully, we don't have to explain our diplomacy to you.

[Evillone]

Jamin I have no idea what kingdom you are in but you or anyone else that doesn't like what simians did could always go and wave the kingdom that simians fed off of (if multiple kingdoms did this it would have a far better effect), having just lost 7k acres and bunch of troops in the feed wave I'm sure they are not ready to war anyone too much larger than they are especially if they eat waves from several other kingdoms as well. Make an example of the kingdom and i bet others will be hesitant to help simians (or anyone else) in this manner again.

[jamin]

I'm in HoH. The point I'm trying to make is that if this is not illegal it should be made illegal, or else in my example what is stopping anyone from doing it on a larger scale. Where is the line? 7k acres, 15k, 50k? That is all legal?
So theoretically (not saying they would but) if Rage and Sact decided, Sanct could farm out to Rage so Rage could get the crown. I just want to know if everyone thinks this should be clarified and made illegal, and kingdoms caught doing it should be punished, or else what is stopping all the top kd's next age doing this? Where is the strategy and skill involved in the game if this is allowed to happen?

[UnknownGhost]

I'm in HoH. The point I'm trying to make is that if this is not illegal it should be made illegal, or else in my example what is stopping anyone from doing it on a larger scale. Where is the line? 7k acres, 15k, 50k? That is all legal?
So theoretically (not saying they would but) if Rage and Sact decided, Sanct could farm out to Rage so Rage could get the crown. I just want to know if everyone thinks this should be clarified and made illegal, and kingdoms caught doing it should be punished, or else what is stopping all the top kd's next age doing this? Where is the strategy and skill involved in the game if this is allowed to happen?

There are other ways of taking care of this if this is indeed farming. If Simians think farming is okay, then I don't see why Absalom should respect anything from that kingdom whatsoever including 1 vs 1 hostiles. You get my drift? ;)

Btw, I have nothing against Simians nor anyone else. Just calling it like I see it. I don't know if this is indeed farming. Someone gotta dig deeper.

[Meeni]

Used to be somewhat common to see. Affected the race, but I don't really remember a specific instance where the crown was decided due to a kingdom farming out to another (intentionally).

Funny you say you're from HoH though