AMA vs sanct round 2

[Anri]

And contrary to belief, there is an aabs alliance every age. A few ages ago it was filled with Pulse, Bio, Inso & OS/Tivoli. You can add in Simians on per age basis since they are barely tolerable even for aabs.

Stupid statement and made up from tak3shis mind.

[tak3shi]

Stupid statement and made up from tak3shis mind.

Which? That you're barely tolerable? I remember you and your members crying in my public when Tivoli waved you and you sending pm's we should be fighting abs instead of fighting each other. I supposed that happened in my mind too. lol.

Plus I receive repeated messages asking us to grow in range of abs so that we can block abs kds and stall them. Not that I would have minded blocking but the kd had other agendas so we went along with that.

That said there is nothing wrong with an aabs alliance just don't go saying there is no pact, what's the point of hiding it. So you can blame abs of being the only alliance around?

[Vivic]

this is way too much already.
i played long time with Elit but now i cannot keep my mouth shut, the utopian community must know.
Elit and jdorje are both nicknames of one guy. Elit is the biggest cheater in the utopia for the last
decade for sure and i dont know why Bishop doesnt act!
Sanctuary is actually the landfarm of all Elit Projects, dont u realise this?
Nexus, Dreams, now AMA, even his smaller projects like Random Friends of whatever it was - always they
win by harvesting their FARM! THey dont farm out Simians or Fratzia or Mercy or Jerks - no, back to back
they farm only SANC and now they are scared that havoc are too close and they want 20-30k more acres.
Come on guys, think - none can prove that Elit=/=jdorje
its same guy i tell u
cheater he is
farmer he is
Bishop - delete, have balls!

shush, now i released that burden from my arms...

[Elit]

this is way too much already.
i played long time with Elit but now i cannot keep my mouth shut, the utopian community must know.
Elit and jdorje are both nicknames of one guy. Elit is the biggest cheater in the utopia for the last
decade for sure and i dont know why Bishop doesnt act!
Sanctuary is actually the landfarm of all Elit Projects, dont u realise this?
Nexus, Dreams, now AMA, even his smaller projects like Random Friends of whatever it was - always they
win by harvesting their FARM! THey dont farm out Simians or Fratzia or Mercy or Jerks - no, back to back
they farm only SANC and now they are scared that havoc are too close and they want 20-30k more acres.
Come on guys, think - none can prove that Elit=/=jdorje
its same guy i tell u
cheater he is
farmer he is
Bishop - delete, have balls!

shush, now i released that burden from my arms...

Proteus is under my control too :P

[Proteus]

Proteus is under my control too :P

Thats why I farmed you for 30k+ acres OOW in age 51 and you disbanded EOA? I still have the papers of you losing those acres if you want to be reminded.

[Elit]

Thats why I farmed you for 30k+ acres OOW in age 51 and you disbanded EOA? I still have the papers of you losing those acres if you want to be reminded.

You have zero sense of humor. My reply is to clear joke post....
Lets don't talk for farming when you was farmed this age.

errr .... yes ... yes ...100 mill gc for cf!! no gc no cf ... odd must have been a thread about cf ...odd

So expensive :P

[Proteus]

You have zero sense of humor. My reply is to clear joke post....
Lets don't talk for farming when you was farmed this age.




So expensive :P

Simple math excercise:

Which number is greater: 30,000 or 12,000. (Scroll below for answer)


Answer: 30,000.

[Soul_Hunter]

Goodz, you say we are allys with a bunch of kds. I ask, did you see any action fro AMA, or did anyone from AMA told you we are allys with those kds? Cause from what i see you tell us X number of kds told you they help us, X number of random noobs try to mess with Abs and you assume we have something to do with it despite the lack of any actions from us supporting those kds? It will not be the first nor the last age some attention seekers will try to ruin Absalom and i think Uto doesnt require AMA to exist to have it. So i suppose it is quite safe to assume we have nothing to do with them nor we are target sharing.

Second of all it is a bit too late to cf sanc as they took couple of hundred millions+some land. How would you go away from the "alliance powerplay" accusations if we simply let them do that and then war you? For everyone is better if we finish our quarrel with them first.

As for the old school saying "you had millions with 0 thieves". I already said any other situation it would be ok. I mean, i agree it is not right in general, but knowing your ally will notice asap makes the act pretty immoral. Not to mention Havoc have billions atm and I don't see them complain an "ally" kd of AMA is robbing them heavily...

So I'd say double hostile will be a pretty ****ty thing to do so let us resolve our differences with Sanctuary and there is enough time this age to war you.

[goodz]

Goodz, you say we are allys with a bunch of kds. I ask, did you see any action fro AMA, or did anyone from AMA told you we are allys with those kds? Cause from what i see you tell us X number of kds told you they help us, X number of random noobs try to mess with Abs and you assume we have something to do with it despite the lack of any actions from us supporting those kds? It will not be the first nor the last age some attention seekers will try to ruin Absalom and i think Uto doesnt require AMA to exist to have it. So i suppose it is quite safe to assume we have nothing to do with them nor we are target sharing.

Second of all it is a bit too late to cf sanc as they took couple of hundred millions+some land. How would you go away from the "alliance powerplay" accusations if we simply let them do that and then war you? For everyone is better if we finish our quarrel with them first.

As for the old school saying "you had millions with 0 thieves". I already said any other situation it would be ok. I mean, i agree it is not right in general, but knowing your ally will notice asap makes the act pretty immoral. Not to mention Havoc have billions atm and I don't see them complain an "ally" kd of AMA is robbing them heavily...

So I'd say double hostile will be a pretty ****ty thing to do so let us resolve our differences with Sanctuary and there is enough time this age to war you.

Yes. Depending on formal requirements of alliance. For example people say HoH is allied with absalom. The requirement being that we have a NAP. If a NAP is the requirement then yes I would contest that Beastbloost/Simians/others are allied. I was told leaders of those kingdoms as well as some others idled in a channel. Their goal being to compete with absalom. They would work together to create favorable but still 1v1 match ups. Which as far as I am concerned is fair.

Denying the existance of a revial group of kingdoms to me seems silly. I played for a long time in "anti absalom" alliances. Be it Brute/Playboys/Heretics/ED or later with Covenent. The formality of tagging doesn't really matter. It is like if absalom didn't tag this wouldn't seem obvious to the casual viewer. You think I don't get robbed all the time. I think I can find 200m gc lost in the last 2 week without issue going through our paper. The game is what it is. The dirtiest age I ever played of utopia was in Cov competing against abs. This age if anything we put up with too much garbage. When I was in tics (mind you it was lead by realest and verm and they don't really compromise) if a KD behaved the way AMA has we would have nap broken and waved them weeks ago. But instead I just gave them like 4 weeks of notice letting them know I am breaking my CF with them as soon as possible as they are s****s.

Then the moment comes that I can finally break it and they wave my allies right after I notice them and claim I can't. I just don't really care. People can argue one side or the other until the end of times. I will go out and drink and our Kd will continue to float. But we will not float indefinitally will you wave a KD way smaller then you and explore up more big provs. :)

Also I am quite easily the worst leader in the top 10 so just leave me alone!

[Anri]

Yes. Depending on formal requirements of alliance. For example people say HoH is allied with absalom. The requirement being that we have a NAP. If a NAP is the requirement then yes I would contest that Beastbloost/Simians/others are allied. I was told leaders of those kingdoms as well as some others idled in a channel. Their goal being to compete with absalom. They would work together to create favorable but still 1v1 match ups. Which as far as I am concerned is fair.

A common channel between the KDs never excisted. The only thing we told each other was that we will not hit each other unless we want to have some fun sometime this age. You live in a dream world if you think we are something other then just that. We have entire different philosophys of how absalom and allies should be treated.

[csarmi]

This kingdom comes out of war with zillions of gc, no thief protection and they don't have CF in place with every threat.

Then they complain for being robbed.

Odd.

[goodz]

This kingdom comes out of war with zillions of gc, no thief protection and they don't have CF in place with every threat.

Then they complain for being robbed.

Odd.

Multi post!

Csarmi! just put up a cow and lets let you win age? makes for more fun!

[csarmi]

Multi post!

Csarmi! just put up a cow and lets let you win age? makes for more fun!

Sorry, too lazy this age.

[Elit]

This kingdom comes out of war with zillions of gc, no thief protection and they don't have CF in place with every threat.

Then they complain for being robbed.

Odd.

We don't complain and its was result from some ppl drink so much and forgot to train up :)
There is one huge difference in all this story. Sanctuary had much more gold before rob us from now. Its clear they cant gain from it and this only help his alliance mates. Sanctaury started it and havoc send notice same time. Its clear 2vs1 don't matter how you define it. Havoc spend 7 weeks for pump and need this help make them (abs) look like bad losers. Sanctuary still make all what don't favor them but help havoc in long term. We will see how this will end but ABS prove again they cant compete 1vs1 and abuse deals when they meet strong opponent just to can win on any price.

[csarmi]

We don't complain and its was result from some ppl drink so much and forgot to train up :)
There is one huge difference in all this story. Sanctuary had much more gold before rob us from now. Its clear they cant gain from it and this only help his alliance mates. Sanctaury started it and havoc send notice same time. Its clear 2vs1 don't matter how you define it. Havoc spend 7 weeks for pump and need this help make them (abs) look like bad losers. Sanctuary still make all what don't favor them but help havoc in long term. We will see how this will end but ABS prove again they cant compete 1vs1 and abuse deals when they meet strong opponent just to can win on any price.

So what's your point? You're sitting on unprotected gold and no NAPs, you should get robbed. If I found you, I'd have robbed you as well.
Sanc is in direct and in undirect (alliance) comepetition with your KD, they would be fools not to take your gold, imho.