Havoc vs Beastblood (OFFICIAL THREAD) (GTFIH) (NUDIES)

[carsten]

agree with Shai -Keep us updated especially on strategic moves and new developments. Do both kds have mystics and do those have an Impact ?

And how is the success rate from those halfers on the big cows ? ( if they are doing any ops that is ... )

[Zauper]

agree with Shai -Keep us updated especially on strategic moves and new developments. Do both kds have mystics and do those have an Impact ?

And how is the success rate from those halfers on the big cows ? ( if they are doing any ops that is ... )

BB is running 2 mystics (the fae). CR are running 5 (the fae + human).

BB's cows are both running 20-25% WT. There's a near 100% success rate on ops outside of those two, but on those two it's moderate because of WT.

[flogger]

Yeah certainly a little bit of war rust, and yes chaining halfers is beyond annoying, intel is hard to get and soldiers make a big difference, personally I was hoping both would be about 2k smaller than they are now, but the topfeed gains are rough, if anything it accomplished peasant control and keeping the two in a weird NW range. The soldiers made the difference of the 2nd halfer being 1k acres larger now, which was fairly significant.

I didn't expect them to leave the halflings so vulnerable as I figured they would be much more turtly given their importance. I imagine they were hoping to keep them more defended, but knowing that was their only shot with sapphire and full ops, they had to go with what they could.

So we jumped on it and just shot everything we had at them, figuring the avians we could take down at any time. Will be interesting to see how that works out, as had the halfers stayed turtled, the core battle would look significantly different by now. I figured we had enough core provs where we could risk having a few waves with losing a few provs with little incoming to try and take em down.

[flogger]

Also baka and I made a bet at one point based on utopia knowledge and I lost. However, as a fan of the new proteus I will give him nothing except the knowledge that he is oft my superior while he's sober.

[Avalanche]

What was the bet?

[carsten]

thanks for the insight - How "safe" is the smaller BB cow ? As this war will likely be decided by who is gonna gain more on their cows/calves it is prolly the most crucial question in determining a "winner". ( i assume for now that 3 of the 4 halfers are safe from the core dwarves )

[tetley]

Also baka and I made a bet at one point based on utopia knowledge and I lost. However, as a fan of the new proteus I will give him nothing except the knowledge that he is oft my superior while he's sober.

Omg details!
also lol @ "when he's sober"

[KuhaN]

[10:01] <feyr> maybe if you would have spent a little less time at the gym
[10:01] <feyr> little more time on your prov
[10:01] <feyr> you wouldn't be in this situation

=(

[protector]

Update on paper, I'm not really sure on the wave count, think we're lagging a bit behind as Havoc's avians are a bit faster.
Not going to go into strategic details for now ;p

Enjoy the summary! (full conflict)


May 24 of YR5 - April 1 of YR6
121 hours of conflict

Total Attacks Made: 286 (+50721 acres)

+ + + Uniques: 107
+ + + Trad March: 246 (+46672 acres)
+ + + Conquest: 6 (+1240 acres)
+ + + Ambush: 19 (+2809 acres)
+ + + Massacre: 1 (+5675 people)
+ + + Fails: 14 (4.89%)
+ + + Aid: 175 Packets

Total Attacks Suffered: 298 (-45285 acres)

- - - Uniques: 107
- - - Trad March: 264 (-42390 acres)
- - - Ambush: 16 (-2895 acres)
- - - Fails: 18 (6.04%)

Net Exchange: +5436 acres

Additional Information: Dragons & Relations

Our Kingdom: (BB) +5436 acres (286/298) [107]

Dragons: Sent: 3 Received: 1
---Anonymous Hits---: +13201 acres (51/0) []
Spaceballs: +2785 acres (7/0) [5]
Balls deep: +1703 acres (14/0) [5]
maballz es hari: +1660 acres (14/0) [5]
Balls to the Wall: +1337 acres (10/3) [5]
Shweaty Ballz: +1243 acres (10/0) [5]
My balls: +1150 acres (8/1) [4]
Balls On Parade: +1106 acres (6/1) [4]
Ballroom Blitz: +1072 acres (12/0) [5]
I Heard u Liek FishBall: +1049 acres (11/2) [5]
Old Man Hairy BaLLs: +1038 acres (9/1) [5]
8 Ball: +905 acres (9/1) [5]
Vulgar Display of Balls: +863 acres (8/0) [5]
CloudywithaChanceofMeatballs: +707 acres (7/2) [5]
Chinese Fish Balls: +638 acres (9/3) [5]
Chefs Chocolate Salty Balls: -351 acres (8/5) [4]
I have elephant ballz: -648 acres (0/2) []
Ball So Hard University: -1009 acres (17/28) [5]
BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs: -1554 acres (12/22) [5]
Two Big Balls In A Sack: -2447 acres (11/33) [4]
Meatballs of Fire: -2498 acres (11/34) [4]
boobies: -2890 acres (10/34) [5]
In Your Balls: -2896 acres (13/45) [5]
HolyBalls: -3151 acres (8/33) [3]
Big Ball: -7577 acres (11/48) [4]


Enemy Kingdom: (Havoc) -5436 acres (298/286) [107]

Dragons: Sent: 1 Received: 3
---Anonymous Hits---: +8391 acres (19/0) []
NASAs Moon Landing was: +1827 acres (16/8) [6]
You Dont Deserve: +1249 acres (3/0) [3]
Rotate in Same: +1206 acres (13/4) [5]
the Greatest Philosopher: +1167 acres (17/8) [6]
To Live On Earth: +1166 acres (15/3) [6]
and the Greatest Mathematician: +906 acres (17/7) [6]
Sincerely Dr Gene Ray: +871 acres (12/1) [5]
Try My Belly-Button Logic: +862 acres (16/5) [6]
I possess data: +827 acres (17/8) [6]
equals nothing: +737 acres (17/2) [5]
4 simultaneous days: +732 acres (17/1) [6]
- - Trad March: 16 (+880 acres)
+ + Trad March: 1 (-148 acres)
blow the lid off: +693 acres (16/7) [6]
for ignoring TimeCube: +390 acres (3/4) [3]
You SnotBrains Will Know: +36 acres (16/12) [6]
KNOW CUBE OR HELL: -590 acres (0/2) []
24 Hours Of Earth: -608 acres (0/12) []
with proof: -944 acres (19/26) [6]
far less: -996 acres (0/3) []
than Time Cube discovery: -1336 acres (19/19) [6]
hell: -2352 acres (6/13) [2]
Add 0 as One: -3709 acres (6/28) [3]
the present civilization: -3790 acres (15/54) [6]
I am Cubic and Wisest Human: -4704 acres (14/45) [5]
of an achievement: -7467 acres (5/14) [4]

[goodz]

That one bank is losing some NWPA? Unsure if growing or ops :P

if BB can chain down another bank outcome seems interesting

[munk]

For those interested: http://tf.umunk.net/#war=2&id1=565&id2=445

and I've not been hacked yet!

[PhoenixScorpion]

For those interested: http://tf.umunk.net/#war=2&id1=565&id2=445

and I've not been hacked yet!

Tides have turned quite fast?

[munk]

April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 2,286 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 2,431 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 Forces from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) attempted to attack us, but failed miserably! We lost 107 soldiers and 15 Harpies in this battle.
April 8 of YR6 443 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 74 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 36 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 311 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 4,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 448 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 16 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 16 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 4,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 4,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 4,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 1,700 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Shweaty Ballz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 15 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Shweaty Ballz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 110 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 104 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 99 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 3,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Shweaty Ballz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Shweaty Ballz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Shweaty Ballz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 16 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 407 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from In Your Balls (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 3,400 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ballroom Blitz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 779 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 13 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ballroom Blitz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ballroom Blitz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from Ballroom Blitz (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 3,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 15 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 5,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have received a shipment of 3,000 soldiers from CR.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from In Your Balls (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 385 of our troops were found dead today!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves from In Your Balls (BB) causing trouble within our lands!
April 8 of YR6 We have found thieves causing trouble within our lands. Unfortunately, we know not where they came from.
April 8 of YR6 Forces from BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB) came through and ravaged our lands! They captured 28 acres! We lost 26 Harpies in this battle.


Thieves caught x44, offenders - BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (BB), Shweaty Ballz (BB), In Your Balls (BB), Ballroom Blitz (BB)
2,880 troops have been nightstriked.

44x failed thievery ops for 2.9k dead soldiers. :P Pro-warring!

[Zauper]

In terms of war -- it's a little hard to figure out if we're up a wave or not at this point; our attack times are about 2 hours faster i think our current wave returns roughly at the same time as their most recent wave, but their armies are a lot more spread out so it isn't quite clear.

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 311 (46,117 acres)
-- Traditional march: 291 (43,591 acres)
-- Ambush: 16 (2,388 acres)
-- Conquest: 2 (138 acres)
-- Failed: 2 (0.6% failure)
-- Uniques: 104
Total attacks suffered: 287 (40,677 acres)
-- Traditional march: 261 (38,688 acres)
-- Ambush: 18 (1,989 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (377 acres)
-- Massacre: 1 (5,675 population)
-- Failed: 6 (2.1% failure)
-- Uniques: 104

They're funding the sapph they have pointed at us, though neither side has great econ. We're continuing to deep chain their core while they are mostly doing quasi chains / quasi randoms and trying to max gain while making 4 hits.

They made one massacre with a cow in the most recent wave, one raze with a cow, and 3 hits for about 11 acres apiece on poor lil birthday boy.

CR
Total land exchanged: +5,440 (311/287)
+6,358 An unknown province (16/0)
+2,316 Rotate in Same (15 [5]/1)
+2,223 the Greatest Philosopher (19 [6]/7)
+2,148 NASAs Moon Landing was (15 [6]/4)
+1,981 I possess data (18 [6]/5)
+1,703 and the Greatest Mathematician (18 [6]/4)
+1,603 blow the lid off (18 [6]/4)
+1,249 You Dont Deserve (3 [3]/0)
+1,241 equals nothing (16 [5]/0)
+1,138 Try My Belly-Button Logic (18 [6]/5)
+898 4 simultaneous days (19 [6]/1)
+560 To Live On Earth (18 [6]/16)
+527 than Time Cube discovery (22 [6]/16)
+416 You SnotBrains Will Know (16 [6]/9)
+390 for ignoring TimeCube (3 [3]/4)
- 24 Hours Of Earth (0/1)
-244 Sincerely Dr Gene Ray (15 [5]/17)
-377 far less (0/1) [this was a raze in war. Seriously? All formatters suck, apparently.]
-692 with proof (18 [5]/23)
-2,352 hell (6 [2]/13)
-2,615 of an achievement (4 [3]/5)
-3,709 Add 0 as One (6 [2]/28)
-3,915 the present civilization (12 [5]/60)
-5,784 I am Cubic and Wisest Human (16 [6]/63)


** The kingdom of BB **
Total land exchanged: -5,440 (287/311)
+5,609 An unknown province (15/0)
+1,726 Balls to the Wall (13 [5]/2)
+1,662 Chefs Chocolate Salty Balls (7 [3]/0)
+1,641 Balls deep (12 [4]/0)
+1,546 Spaceballs (7 [4]/0)
+1,489 Shweaty Ballz (11 [5]/0)
+1,489 maballz es hari (14 [5]/0)
+1,405 My balls (12 [5]/1)
+1,341 Chinese Fish Balls (8 [4]/0)
+1,297 Old Man Hairy BaLLs (12 [5]/1)
+1,272 CloudywithaChanceofMeatballs (10 [5]/2)
+1,236 8 Ball (12 [5]/1)
+1,073 Vulgar Display of Balls (11 [5]/0)
+1,072 Ballroom Blitz (11 [4]/0)
-8 I Heard u Liek FishBall (14 [5]/8)
-1,131 Ball So Hard University (15 [5]/28)
-1,723 BIg BoYs BaNg BaLLs (14 [5]/26)
-2,389 Meatballs of Fire (14 [5]/35)
-2,447 Two Big Balls In A Sack (11 [3]/33)
-2,877 boobies (13 [5]/36)
-2,982 HolyBalls (12 [4]/33)
-3,525 Balls On Parade (10 [5]/28)
-3,828 In Your Balls (15 [4]/45)
-8,011 Big Ball (14 [4]/32)

[tetley]

44x failed thievery ops for 2.9k dead soldiers. :P Pro-warring!

To be fair a good majority of those ops were probably failed SOTs...