So my kingdom has been asking me to make a post where we can consolidate all talk and say why we did what we did and why we felt it was correct. Lets make this as short as it can be.
We war OOP. We big. We explore to match the #1 kd so we can war 1 on 1. We know its abs. Leshrak messages us for CF and it seems as if we won't agree to me, and then this happens:
jdorje 5:59 PM what total size will they be?
leshrak 5:59 PM 2.2, 2.1, 1.7
it's only 15k solds per prov
they released most of their core military
1 soldier/acre for the whole kd
cheap
jdorje 6:09 PM
soooo
back to the idea of waving them right now
we dont like this idea still?
leshrak 6:10 PM
i dunno
flogger offered yr2 cf
not yr6
cerberusv6.66 6:14 PM
Waving right now? I don't mind the idea so much.
zauper 6:15 PM
I don't love waving into eow?
Is it the example you want to set for acceptable play?I don't...
leshrak 6:16 PM
don't sit on 10 dpa in eowcf?
jdorje 6:17 PM
not really the example we want to set for acceptable play, no
leshrak 6:17 PM
they could be razed by 400a provs right now
jdorje 6:17 PM
if he's going to farm bour next
it's bour that should be razing them
leshrak 6:17 PM
slaps bour around a bit with a large trout
cerberusv6.66 6:18 PM
eh
not sure how I feel about that
jdorje 6:19 PM
if we cf them, bour is dead
and that is bad for us
so if i were bour i'd go get the cf now
with threats of postwar hitting if they refuse
cerberusv6.66 6:20 PM
true
cerberusv6.66 7:18 PM
so eh
are we done planning?
as in, we didn't?
jdorje 7:26 PM
do we raze stables to pump?
for almost a 3 day pump?
cerberusv6.66
stables
cerberusv6.66 7:33 PM
EH
okay
let's think aboutthis. Will we want them for a fight?
we'll have like 1.5k ospecs or something
jdorje 7:34 PM
obviously we'd like them
cerberusv6.66 7:34 PM
so 25% offensive increase for that
and 16% increase for our elites
jdorje 7:34 PM
are they better than 10% more forts for a fight PLUS ~45 hours of banks?
do we want homes for this pump?
i'm guessing we do
cerberusv6.66 7:34 PM
I think we lose them, and I think we want homes
if we're going to fight, we need to go all in on the preparation
before, wehn it looked like it was just one big prov, it looked a lot less scary
things as they stand look very loseable for us
so yeah, we need to do as much as possible. I' not sure what is optimal for said preparation though
but I don't think we want stables while we're preparing
bour 7:41 PM
msged BB ingame
Off. Points 66,646
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
gonna get that cf?
bour 7:42 PM
will try to get it
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
give them at most 3 hours to respond
start killing if they don't answer or try to delay
imo
bour 7:44 PM
the guy has 12k defense
lol
My take is quite simple. The game is dead. We were going to be 32k acres, emeriti was going to be 32k acres. Everyone else was tiny.
When ASF says "is this what you want at the top" Everyone big knows us. I would like to trust that everyone in the top knows that such a chat in my council would never even take place. The sheer notion of using your retirement ghetto to take out the only competition makes me fairly convinced that this kingdom simply doesn't and will never have what it takes to be in a position of power in this watered down era, they simply want to win at all costs.
From CJ in sillies to Godly and Elit in the expendables to everyone in Sleepy and Jerks and the entire server who has dealt with us, I feel that everyone can be in 100% comfort that if you ever decided to try and grow, we would do nothing of this sort other than only fight you if you were around our size and if you had time to prepare for that fight.
So here's my call to arms: We and I are not quitting. If we lose this age, we are coming back next age and doing this again, as I imagine they would do if they were to lose.
Assuming this goes until one side gives up, and I've played for 22 straight ages and ASF has played pretty much non-stop since age 4, I can understand those that want to be neutral and stay out. If you join one side or the other its clear both sides have shown a record for stubborness throughout the ages.
What I want everyone to ask themselves is "Who do I think I trust to be the winner" Based on these logs and everyone's experience with abs in control of the server and based on their experience with how we handle ourselves in a position of power, to anri, to elit, to godly, to CJ, who do you want to walk out the winner?
Don't be neutral, I would implore you to pick a side and get involved with how you honestly think. If more people think the way we handle ourselves is wrong, I can't say I'd agree, but I'll accept that.
If abs wins, it will be like everything else in the past 10 years or so since they got disbanded the last time. If abs loses, it will be because of you. So that being said, if you want to help, message me or protector or anyone in Beastblood and we'll tell you how you can help.
I'm on record that I'm not stopping until one of us wins, because I don't think the above logs deserves any spot in our game at the top anymore.
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