Quote Originally Posted by Mourhelm View Post
Israel has an army that needs be able to defend Israel against more than just the Palestinians. I don't know where you are from, but as far as I know there is only one country in the world that doesn't have an army (Costa Rica).
Of course Israel has an army. And it is equipped with the finest weapons by the US and other sympathizers. That's my point. The Palestinians are outgunned. Why does Israel merit state of the art weapons and Palestine doesn't? Doesn't Palestine have a right to defend itself? And what are the armies of free countries defending themselves from? Oh, I know. From people taking over their land, which is exactly what Israel has done. Taken over Palestinian territory.

There is no general problem with countries having nuclear power and weapons as long as they don't threaten to use it. North Korea and Iran seem crazy enough to use it and that's why you hear whining about it.
USA used nukes. They were fully aware of the consequences, yet they went through with it. They hit two cities in three days. They have no right to be the nuclear conscience of the free world. Specially since they are displaying double standards. And if Israel was so honest, it would at least admit that it has nukes.

Iran has made it clear that they want to use nuclear technology for civilian purposes. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an idiot, who doesn't know which is his head and which is his behind, and you shouldn't really pay attention to him. The Islamic leaders have said that they will not produce, stockpile or use nukes.

Besides, even if they do get it eventually, it'll probably be used to gain strategic advantage that only Israel has right now. Face it, Israel doesn't want Iran to have the nukes, not because they'll use it, but because Israel will lose it's nuclear monopoly and won't be able to strut around like they are the Lords of the Middle East.

As far as I know, The Irish never used suicide bombings when they fought for their independence. They also aimed at military targets and not civilian ones.
Of course, Israel has always stuck to military targets. Even when they conducted genocide in refugee camps. They even shelled the peacekeepers camp in Lebanon which was full of civilians. Remember that? Guess not.

Btw, the Irish killed civilians as well. No suicide bombings, of course. But there were bombings. And it's not only extremely eastern countries that employ suiciding. And it isn't a extreme eastern tactic. It was just as common in the West as the East, though the Japanese were the first to use it in a large scale.

Before WW2 and after WW2 there weren't any countries (except maybe one) that wanted to take Jewish people. The world was split between the winning countries and the Brits decided to help the Jewish people by agreeing to give them a part of Palestine. Mistake or not, the UN accepted this and split Palestine. It is true that Jewish people lived in Palestine at the time, but they hardly bought half the country. They also didn't declare independence before they got the OK from the UN.
Who the hell gave UN the right to give Israel a part of Palestine? And why should the Palestinians allow it anyway? Think the Americans would've been thrilled if Texas had been handed over? It would've been a much better solution, no? After all, Americans love Israel, right?

[QUOTE]If Israel would bomb everything and everyone we would have a solution for the Gaza problem real fast. Gaza is a small enough area to just bomb it all with artillery and air strikes and remove it completely from the map in six hours.[QUOTE]

If they could get away with it, they would.

To all those who call the Palestinians freedom fighters. If they were targeting military targets I would agree. Once they target civilian targets they are terrorists.

If it was up to me, I would give the Palestinians all that is theirs according to the UN split plan (to avoid conflict about Jerusalem I would make it a UN controlled international city with its own laws). However, the Palestinians want everything, including what the UN agreed to give Israel. Israel will never agree to give it because it will mean the end of it.

Also, the extremist from both side have too much control on the situation. On our side it means more settlements. On their side it means attacking civilian targets and not military ones.

As long as these extremist on both sides control the situation, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will never be resolved.
The fact that they target civilians is the reason I do not support Hamas. But Israel also targets civilians, so I don't support them either. I've already told you that I don't support terrorism.

Yes, as long as there are extremists, the conflict will continue. One side is defending something that is illegal, and the other side is taking all the wrong paths to administer justice. This does not mean there aren't good guys on both sides. And it is a ridiculous waste of human life.

Like I said, the fault lies with the Brits and the Allied powers.

PS There are plenty of links for the palestinian cause too, I'm sure.