Utopia Blog 30th September

[texn]

You're all being stupid.
Adapt your tools to fit the game - don't demand or even consider for a second that the game should be adapted to fit your tools.

w0rd

[[Bee]]

Since omac was open to use tools for uto, and even started gathering what tools are out there, I think a co-operation in this wouldn't hurt.

http://utopia.swirve.com/tools.php

Or they have changed their mind about that project?

[Mourhelm]

Since omac was open to use tools for uto, and even started gathering what tools are out there, I think a co-operation in this wouldn't hurt.

http://utopia.swirve.com/tools.php

Or they have changed their mind about that project?

Since they invited the developers of some of the tools (pimp for example) to participate in the earliest stages of the alpha, I doubt they changed their mind.

[Palem]

Oh yes. They should of course do everything they can not to help people make tools.

Where did anyone say that? They have a game, and you make your tool around it. It's not a difficult concept. Tools are not what make the game playable.

I also think we should ban anyone who uses angel while we're at it

I both agree and disagree. Agree in the sense that there's pretty much no need for it, but disagree in the sense that I love watching people bounce and blaming it on Angel.

Or we could just work together and try to make the game better? Because I really don't see how it hurts anyone to try to make things easier for people both ingame and through supporting the creation of useful tools.

Easier =\= better

Take a chill pill Luc. Tools aren't what make the game playable. On top of that, people are getting by just fine without your tool just like they have since the game has been around. Trust me, it's not that important to base the whole code around.

[Luc]

Palem, I was being sarcastic in the first part of my post, if that escaped you.

I never said to base the game around tools, and I doubt anyone else meant that either. It's just absurd to call people stupid for wanting to create a symbiosis between the game developers and the players. If something in the game can be made easier for tool developers without making it worse for the players, then why the hell shouldn't it?

I used the word easy to describe a change such as what MA suggested about having highlights in the attack messages etc. which imo would make the game better.

Some tools make the game more playable. Utopiapimp and Angel are two prime examples that apply to a large group of players. Unless the game replaces the need for those tools, it makes complete sense to try to make things easier for the developers of those tools, UNLESS it makes the game worse for other people (and generally that's not the case)

Even if it so happens that you don't like the tools available, doesn't mean someone else doesn't. There's no basis there for refusing changes to the game unless you can give examples of why it makes the game worse

[beeper]

not enough time to read all posts about this new "near alfa" so :
without pimp this game is nothing, they plan something to do about it or
developers have no idea about game and all work is to learn python, css...

[DHaran]

Without pimp this game is nothing? lol how much do you fail at life?

[beeper]

idiots like D...and multi-account do not need pimp, otherwise is ESSENTIAL

[Kees]

Beeper, damn, i have added you to my watch-list. Whenever i did something stupid a read a random post of yours and feel a whole lot better in a sec.

About the Beta testing, its getting better and better. Now all i would love is for us to be able to choose simple of "pretty"letters. I realy do not like the box where you can make all colors and stuff. Makes posting of symbian a pain/impossible and i like normal writing, not the fancy colors.

[Magmalava]

idiots like D...and multi-account do not need pimp, otherwise is ESSENTIAL

Pimp is NOT essential. It's only a tool. They could pull the plug at any time, and then what? Since we have a bot with som+som function we hardly use pimp anymore.

[beeper]

this game is garbage without pimp ;
if you have a multi-account kingdom or doing only fake wars... you need no tools

[Palem]

The game is fine without Pimp. You have forums.

[null]

my lowprofile low-exampled tutorial of pimp+angel for noobs

http://null.faithweb.com/


maybe OMAC should take look here also?

[Magmalava]

this game is garbage without pimp ;
if you have a multi-account kingdom or doing only fake wars... you need no tools

We have had quite a few good wars without pimp. i'd say the active use of a chat program is plus a som+som calculator (e.g. irc + bot) is far more viable.
Can always create your own database if you really need one.

[Milanis]

Hello,

I'm here mostly because Utopia has got a bug, and it is in my game on WOL. Now they may have thought to have fixed all the problems or whatever, but they didn't or I would have Teen Porn, and Ludicrous Anti-Virus Advertising Web Pages popup out of nowhere while I'm trying to cast spells, or go from my Mystics to My Forum Page.

I only did this, and have a severe disdain for the amount of time with all the do's and don'ts, the "Confirm I'm Human", Madness, just to get someone to fix that Dog Gone problem.

Someone contact me at my Email address, and tell me how to contact the right people to fix this problem: sirevergracelongsword@hotmail.com

And Yes!! I am a US Veteran, served my time in the US Army, US Air Force Reserve, and I even worked on a US Navy Nuclear Submarine Base, until the Government shut it down.

I am proud to have served my Country.